TOWN OF ST LEON
3059 State Road #46
West Harrison, IN 47060
Phone: (812) 637-2530
January 14,2008
Dearborn County Commissioners
215B West High St.
Lawrenceburg, IN 47025
Attn: Bryan Messmore County Administrator
Re: St. Leon WWTP Expansion
Gentlemen:
As you are aware, the Town of St. Leon is currently preparing to initiate construction of an expansion of its Wastewater Treatment Plant. This expansion will provide for future anticipated growth within the Town as well as allow the Town to support Economic Development in Dearborn County, specifically within the West Harrison and St. Leon TIF Districts.
For example, the Town is currently in receipt of a request from DCEDI to commit to provide sewer service to the Stone Trust Property within the West Harrison TIF District. Sewer service must be available to secure the classification of "shovel ready". The Town is unable to make that commitment unless and until the WWTP expansion is financed and under construction.
The most cost-effective financing for the project is the Lawrenceburg Public Entity Loan Fund, which the Town is now pursuing.
The support of the Dearborn County Commissioners recognizing the Economic Development benefits of this improvement is very desirable and we hereby request a letter documenting this support. The favorable financing terms provided by Lawrenceburg would also allow potential cost reductions to TIF District users.
Finally, it should be noted that the proposed WWTP expansion to secure Economic Development needs in the Northwest Quadrant of Dearborn County is consistent with the "Woolpert Study."
Your support is appreciated and would provide the most timely method of enhancing Economic Development of the TIF Districts.
Since time is of the essence, we would appreciate your letter of support at the earliest possible date,
Please do not hesitate to call with questions.
Sincerely,
Town of St, Leon
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1 – 200 of 211 Newer› Newest»Lawrenceburg Council already said they do not want to get in the middle of the St. Leon sewer mess.
Sorry St. Leon, but sometimes bad things happen to bad people...
Maybe you could bring to next Council meeting all the residents who would have connected up to your sewers even without your always impending threat to sue them.
They should all comfortable fit in a Ford Escort.
And how apropos that will be in that you have the Ford Escort of sewers in this County, as compared to the Cadillac of sewers offered by the SDRSD.
Watson, St. Leon and the DCRSD just love motivating the political forces that are going to vote out all the sewer crook enablers. May they keep up the good work.
To all those people who are talking and trashing others.. How about using your time and energy in a positive way. Instead of talking about others, why don't you talk about ways to improve Dearborn County. Isn't that what the purpose of this page is anyhow?
How about you do something that the county can benefit from.
What makes you think we are not working to better this county?
For an example of a "something" that was tried was a lot of folks got together with the comp plan to map out a course for development of this county.
What did development forces do with such plan?
They ordered their flunkies to sit on it.
Growing out from existing infrastructure, in a manner that does not place an undue burden on the taxpayer and those living around proposed development is another "something" that has been put forward by posters on this blog.
Yet that also falls on deaf ears of developer interests who feel entitled to have no restrictions placed on them.
We had to fight our own party to even get a representative in the "something" discussion, remember that dear?
You discount all effort that is not 100% pro-development at any and all costs to the taxpayer.
"We had to fight our own party to even get a representative in the "something" discussion, remember that dear?"
And they try to claim we are against compromise. Even with maintaining the majority they did not want to give us a voice in the process. They have proven time and again that they want absolute power when it comes to the direction and flow of development in this County. All their talk is empty talk when it comes to their willingness to compromise.
St. Leon, if Watson has his way, will be one major power outage away from a public heath catastrophe.
What are St. Leon’s contingency plans for such an occurrence?
Or are they just hoping that the development instigators of these piss-poor sewers will be safely down at their resort condos in Florida before the backed up shit literally starts hitting the ceiling fans of St. Leon residents?
it would seem that St. Leon would benefit from any development added to their sewer plant.
how much PROFIT does that plant make?
how much do the sewer operators make?
this must be a lucrative enterprise or else they wouldn't want to expand for the county's needs- out of the goodness of their hearts.
What St. Leon needs to do is to force more folks without the right of representation onto their sewers to pay for the development of few politically connected developers.
Yeah! That's the ticket!
'Finally, it should be noted that the proposed WWTP expansion to secure Economic Development needs in the Northwest Quadrant of Dearborn County is consistent with the "Woolpert Study."'
Guess the Northwest Quadrant is still in the plans for development!! When does 'NO' mean no to the developers and sewer mongers in the County.
I guess there is too much money to be made ripping off the farmers and land owners!
Now that those actually holding title to the land up in the NW Quad are aware of the value of the land, there will be little interest by the same ole, same ole development interests in negotiating with informed sellers.
The NW Quad was all about keeping the landowners in the dark in order for our politically connected development interests in this County to buy up their land for a song then on to make windfall profits.
These crooks were planning on using inside information, of what should have been public information, but our public officials were all in the pocket of development interests, to cheat the landowners of the Quad.
Remember folks, last primary that republicans Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes sold out the republican primary voters to the highest development bidder.
The primary voter is only of value to them if they can be herded to their development masters.
Vote for true representatives of the people this year.
Watch for the dirtiest of nasty political low down tricks from our desperate development owned republican leadership this year.
Let us all show these Country Club RINO bastards what true conservatism is all about!
Throw out their bought and paid for political scoundrels!
All campaign contributions should be given directly to the candidates and not channeled through the party. The party leadership has proven to be corrupt and in the pocket of developers.
This sad chapter in dearborn county politics cannot end soon enough for me.
The political process has been hijacked by self-serving development proponents with little or no interest for the average man and woman in this county.
We need a political shakeup from the top down.
And all the same people are going to show up at the Lawrenceburg Council meeting and the Mayor and the Council members will tell Watson and St. Leon the same thing.
Maybe Watson and St. Leon can also try to sue Lawrenceburg into compliance with their demands.
That is their idea of "representative" government after all.
To "represent" only the wishes of politically connected development interests and to sue anyone in their development constituents' way.
And what did Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes do when they finally had the chance to hold St. Leon's feet to the fire and truly show that they both walk the walk and not just talk the talk when it comes to forced hook-ups?
Well they did what their development bosses already decided they should do.
They gave St. Leon their blessing to try to get more money from Lawrenceburg.
When these two political clowns in the primary try to claim they are on record against forced hook-ups, please show them for the liars that they are and show the primary voters their actual record.
Maybe Ewbank will advise them anything they say in the primary may be used against them and forbid their actual campaigning?
I'm sure when Mayor Cunningham and the Council find out that two intellectual powerhouse politicos such as Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox gave their OK, they will jump at the idea of throwing money away on St. Leon sewers! What alternative universe is Watson and St. Leon living in? Enough already. We are fed up with St. Leon's bullying of our neighbors to line the pockets of a few realtors, developers and their enablers' pockets. Get that through your thick skulls you thugs!
Watson:
Finally, it should be noted that the proposed WWTP expansion to secure Economic Development needs in the Northwest Quadrant of Dearborn County is consistent with the "Woolpert Study."
Let me guess, if the "Woolpert Study" suggested it was downright criminal to force poor and non-politically connected folks to subsidize such sewers that Watson would curse their name?
Welcome to Dearborn County: Where the highest bidder determinds what is "needed" for our County!!!
Watson and Ewbank:
Their origins both joined and fixed to the same cow pie...only to be differentiated in birth…by a thousand different like flies.
For we all know...it takes all of a village...of flies...to raise a festering and purulent maggot.
I wonder what "surprises" the DCRSD has in store for us as I also wonder how Fox and Hughes will trip and stumble over each other making way for whatever the DCRSD wants, no matter the costs to the rest of us?
I'm sure we are all in agreement, forced hookups and/or avalibity fees to finance the development of this County's chosen few will not prompt Rick and Jeff to rise above Ewbank's shoe bottoms to protest such.
Maybe at the dcedi's next meeting, John Zeiden could give the "State of the Sewers" address?
Afterwards, the entire dcedi crew could go slime surfing on Hogan's Creek just down the hill from High Ridge Estates, finishing up the evening at Dennerline's trailer park to admire all what the taxpayers had provided him in way of sewer improvements and other like expenditures related to his financial wellbeing.
Next meeting: John Maxwell will provide the dcedi crew a tour of St. Leon and what he too would like the taxpayers to provide him personally in sewer improvements and other items that may provide for his personal financial comfort.
Sadly, Brett Fehrman has been placed last on the list to provide his tour and his related taxpayer wish list.
The Fox and Hughes' contigent protesting outside a "smart growth" rally:
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Link above revised, sorry, my grinder pump shorted out and blew my circuit breakers:
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Anyone know how I can flush my toilet with a shorted grinder pump motor?
I googled it, but came up empty!
This is an ASAP question, this was taco night at the old homestead!
I attended the meeting when john zeidan spoke to the commtioners his messgge was clear titeled "Dearborn County Moving Forward" I never heard him mention anything about his bussiness or personal interest he did say he is all for development and new growth for dearborn county which is not possible without sewage so our kids have jobs here where they were raised istead of them going to cincinnati or ky to find jobs.
This is an ASAP question, this was taco night at the old homestead!
So very sorry, can’t help you with your grinder pump issues, but I will persist in keeping an eye out for Doug Baer if you should so wish to do your most private “business” in your back yard or victory garden.
We would ever not want nor desire Mr. Baer catching “wind” of what you may be doing in the mist of your most spirited physical functions, Mr. Baer citing you and condemning your property to be later, by operation of the many decrees of this County, deeded later over to Mr. Maxwell by Mr. Baer, now would we?
I never heard him mention anything about his bussiness or personal interest
His personal business interests were why he was there.
Look to the record.
Further, forcing the rest of us into tens of thousands of dollars of debt to finance some amorphous and artificial delineation of growth for the benefit of so few is both insane and unproductive to the welfare of this county as a whole.
“Growth,” however you define it, will come, but not by bullying and lawsuits to provide it at the pace of those who demand immediate gratification for their investment in their political handmaidens and cheap and easy political dates.
Our kids will not have jobs unless we connect up to sewers that do not work when the power goes out and such sewers' capacity will be used up by a few politically connected realtor/developers for their residential development? What, are kids are destined to be house servants for all these new homes in all these new proposed subdivisions? Sadly, you and I know whose interests you are looking out for and it is not our childrens' interests!
Mr. Zeiden purchased land for his business at non-sewered prices, now he wants the rest of us to subsidize his sewers to increase his overall profits (he finds the "pump and haul" aspects of being on a septic/holding tank not conducive with maximizing his profits, so he looks to the rest of us to make up for his supposed shortfalls).
Sorry, we are not buying what Mr. Zeiden is selling.
Unless Mr. Zeiden wants to chip in and make up for my personal misgivings of paying for minced Cod patties and a paper cup full of MD 20/20 when I think I really deserved lobster and a fine white wine.
That John Zeiden...always looking out for the rest of us! Let him show how much he cares to his neighbors; without forgetting to mention the full cost of these sewers, monthly fees, grinder pump(s) cost, maintence and replacement costs of same grinder pumps, excavation costs, electrical service and monthly costs of electrical rates and the cost of motel rooms when the power fails and you cannot flush your toilets.
Let Johh Zeiden sing all the praises of these wonderful sewers to his neighbors.
john zeidan is a father of 3 beautiful college graduates kids ,and one Honor high school student, involved in church a well respected indivisual and i can't imagine what these wieners have against him!!! I have known him for over 17 years and he never wished anything bad on anybody or talk bad about any one behind thier back!!!
zeiden, like fehrman, like maxwell like one of the primordial instigators of the dcedi mess, benning, only care about maximizing their respective incomes at the rest of our friends and neighbors' expense, though i blame lehner more than benning for what benning did because benning is just such a pitiful creature and easily led by a few kind and smart words and lehner took advantage of benning's weak nature to the very limits of human kindness
Zeiden is a peach!!!
Let Zeiden make do with what he paid for, a transaction he entered into with both eyes open!!!
But let us not raid the savings of Zeiden's neighbors to improve Zeiden's lot!!!
Because I am sure Zeiden's neighbors' families are equally as admirable as Zeiden!!!
Or are his neighbors' interests less important than Zeiden???
In that their interests do not align with the interests of the board members of the DCRSD!!!
I have talked to john zeidan before and from what I understand he is not for forced hookups for good working systems but those who are having non working systems and dumping thier sewage on thier neighbers yard or in the creeks and palouting the inviorment its going to cost them less to hook up than to replace the non functional system.
As High Ridge Estates continues to dump raw sewage into Hogan's Creek...
...you all remember...
...the reason the dcrsd was formed...
John Zeiden should be complaining of the sewage flowing into our waterways because of the DCRSD not doing their assigned duty and fixing high ridge.
Apart from all that, John wants sewers to his business to reduce his costs of doing business and possibly developing some land he owns around his home.
So, please stop all the nonsense that John wants to save our environment!
Vera, is that you throwing out all this nonsense?
its going to cost them less to hook up than to replace the non functional system.
Please provide us all with the life-long costs of pressurized sewers and generators if we should wish to flush our commodes during an electrical outage?
Please factor into such costs the ever-increasing costs of updating such sewers as politically connected consistently place such systems at over-capacity to meet their development and financial needs.
Iam one of john zeidan neighbours and when john bought this property about 10 years ago it was junk yard!!!and look what he turned it to now!!!! besides no one handed him anything on silver plater what he has he worked very hard for!if you use your energy towrd something positive you all would get somewhere too!!! I think its all jeoulesy Thats All!!!
Someone, please tell one of Zeiden's neighbors how cost effective these sewers are considering they would cost him about $35,000.00 to just hook on to such sewers due to the topography of his land...
Iam one of john zeidan neighbours and when john bought this property about 10 years ago it was junk yard!!!
Have you seen what I have done with my property?
Maybe you should get on my bandwagon and force my neighbors to subsidize sewers to my property also?
John Zeiden could afford to do alot with his property, look what he saved as compared to the costs of sewer serviced property.
I could put all my grandkids through college with such savings.
Now we to give Zeiden our savings because he improved his property? I guess I should have documented and filmed all what I have done with my property. How else will I be able to prove that the folks down the road owe me sewers!
Praise to John Zeiden!!!
The Lords of the DCRSD, please send me a self-addressed envelope so I can donate to the John Zeiden Memorial Sewer Fund!!!
But just in case we don't get sewers out into Zeiden's and my neck of the woods anytime soon, could you send Doug Baer out to Zeiden's house, I think his septic system may be failing!!!
Let me know when you plan to inspect Zeiden's septic system, I will be out there with the local papers and WCPO in tow!!!
I think its all jeoulesy Thats All!!!
Maybe John Zeiden is somehow green with envy that our ample savings are not being tapped to provide him with a little extra income?
I forgive his trespasses!
Everyone, look up and down the road that you live. Have you done more or less with your property than the people who live on your road? Do the people living on your road that have done less than you with their property owe you anything? Do you owe the people that have done more with their property than you?
Apparently, someone here believes we "owe" John Zeiden sewers merely because he improved HIS land.
Look out through your kitchen windows and tally up what others owe YOU for improving your land.
Submit your tallies to the dcrsd.
Looks like Vera Benning is trying to restore her forever squandered political heydays one Zeiden and Gabbard Estates at a time.
May we all be present when she is knocking on doors of High Ridge residents begging for their votes.
Flush...flush (stupid low flow and volume toilets) down Hogan's Creek with her political revival chances.
please would anyone show me where Mr Zeidan asked any of you for help or money!!! his bussines is runinng fine without sewage the way it is!!!
and thanks alot for asking but his septic system is working just fine!!!! and he is willing to hook to the sewage line because he is all about the people that are stuck with thier homes they can't sell them or do anything, bc of the problem they have like high ridge if you were in these people shoes you won't be against sewage!!! arent you the same people that complain about high taxes ? and against development!!!
he is all about the people that are stuck with thier homes they can't sell them or do anything, bc of the problem they have like high ridge
Again, John Zeiden is a prince among men.
With Zeiden's most evident altruistic inate virtues, he should not need the rest of us to subsidize any sewers to his business.
Problem solved.
Now, on to other business, when is the DCRSD ever going to stem the flow of raw sewage flowing into Hogan's Creek from High Ridge?
That is why they were formed, was it not?
Could it be the DCRSD's Board and their political enablers had other motives in rushing into existence the very existence of the DCRSD?
Maybe we should have some sort of voter referendum concerning the DCRSD?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
i have friends that live in the sw part of the county, along with agreeing that zeiden is a great guy who looks out for everyone else before himself, the farmers down their in the sw corner of the county really love vera benning. Love her to pieces.
I agree with Mr. Zeiden.
We need to look out for the welfare of High Ridge Estates.
Just think about it, High Ridge would have been fixed already but for all the greedy "hangers on" trying to somehow get their properties sewered along with the High Ridge fix.
Look where we stand today.
The DCRSD has been formed how many years now?
And still High Ridge is polluting our waterways.
Maybe the State Attorney General should look into this mess?
What do you all think?
"Maybe the State Attorney General should look into this mess?"
I think we should try to get Mr. Zeiden to be our point man with the attorney general to finally work in earnest in fixing the corruption with our newly and deceptively formed development driven sewer districts in our beloved County!
Please, please, please...Mr. Zeiden, take on the mantle of County Reformer and lead us out of this ethical sewer morass!
Because high ridge estates leans down the hill toward hogans, pressurized sewers, that would work with gabbard estates and zeiden's property would not be economically feasible with the dollars already allotted to fixing high ridge.
What to do.
What to do.
Maybe Rodney Dennerline is right.
High Ridge does not have any options available.
That is if gabbard estates and zeiden's property is to be sewered also.
What to do.
What to do.
and thanks alot for asking but his septic system is working just fine!!!!
Spend much time sunning yourself amongst John Zeiden's leech lines do you?
Maybe you could be the county advocate as to the effectiveness of septic systems?
What do you say, sport?
"Anonymous said...
please would anyone show me where Mr Zeidan asked any of you for help or money!!! his bussines is runinng fine without sewage the way it is!!!
and thanks alot for asking but his septic system is working just fine!!!! "
You need to check the Board of Health meeting notes!! You will find the truth.
John proceeded without a permit to install tanks not approved by the State and when caught, even though the B of H tried to help him, all they could do for him is give him a pump and haul permit, which by the way is very expensive! He cannot solve his problems or expand his business without great expense, unless he can get DCRSD to force his neighbors to help him!
So much for his community spirit!
Also, who wants a West Chester out in western Dearborn County?
"John proceeded without a permit to install tanks not approved by the State and when caught..."
Well then, John is prime material to be the "Poster Child" for all the wonders of the DCRSD and the blessings they should try to bestow on this once honest and lovely County!
What a nice fit Zeiden is with the DCRSD, Ewbank and his too stupid to be completely corrupt twin Commissioners!
"You need to check the Board of Health meeting notes!! You will find the truth."
Way to go realtor/developer dipwits!
You picked another winner to sing your praises!
What next?
Are you going to troll the drunk tanks for character witnesses to you ongoing back-sliding sobriety?
unless he can get DCRSD to force his neighbors to help him!
I see a BIG welcome home party for John Zeiden at the next DCRSD Sewer Board Meeting!!!!!!!!!!
It will be like Ma Barker welcoming home one of her long lost and wayward sons!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all they could do for him is give him a pump and haul permit,
Well, at least according to testimony provided earlier in this thread by one of Zeiden's good friends or neighbors, his septic system for his home is in tip-top shape.
Who am I to question such testimony.
It just goes to show you, maybe Bob Ewbank is not such a bad sort of bloke after all. Surely, being the smart gentlemen that he is for sure, he was likely apprised of Mr. Zeiden's questionable history, but yet he treated him with kid gloves when Zeiden appeared to speak before that awful Thom Hammond a couple of Commissioners' meetings way back when. I would guess we all were wrong when it came to concerning the likeable attributes of Mr. Robert Ewbank!
John Maxwell and Brett Fehrman would love to have John Zeiden as a fellow dcrsd board member.
Talk about misdirection!
Maxwell and Fehrman could pull doves from their sleves and coins from their marks' ears and yet everyones' eyes would be glued to Zeiden's possible next move!
Imagine what taxpayer afforded treasures that Maxwell and Fehrman could walk off with in such a Zeiden induced fog!
Who are you people talking to?
I guess you.
How ya doing this morning?
How about a big fat mound system for Starlight?
How about a big fat mound system for Starlight?
That would run counter to the absolute fiction parroted by those pushing the rest of us to pay for their sewers that septic systems simply do not work.
They must all stay on message until we all get our letters in the mail threatening us with lawsuit if we do not pay for Maxwell and Company’s sewers.
Maxwell should share his "magic" septic system plans with Zeiden. Maxwell's "magic" septic system is so functional that no one seems to be forcing him onto St. Leon's sewers. Pretty amazing, wouldn't you say?
Whatever happened to all the liars who used to post here claiming the State was forcing the DCRSD (as well as St. Leon) to force the rest of us on substandard sewers, no matter the ultimate costs to those forced on such sewers?
"Whatever happened to all the liars..."
Maybe when the lies proved grossly ineffective, they went back to their corrupt/bullying/political blackboards to map out yet another strategy to tap our savings for their personal profits?
"Maybe when the lies proved grossly ineffective, they went back to their corrupt/bullying/political blackboards to map out yet another strategy to tap our savings for their personal profits?"
I would like to know how many of you have lost any of your savings to a developer or realtor. That is all I read about on this blog. "Those people are talking our wallets and stealing our savings." Grow up. I guess maybe this blog has been designed to try to make sure there are no more people moving into the county. "Beware of Dearborn County you will lose your savings." What a load of crap. You would also be saying "Well since I was able to move here no one else is allowed to come."
"I would like to know how many of you have lost any of your savings to a developer or realtor. That is all I read about on this blog."
How about the people on Cole Lane and Stewart Road who are having to pay for the sewer system so Dennerline gets his trailer park done for free?
How about all the people forced to connect to St. Leon's system or forced to pay a lawyer to try not to be forced to pay to hook on?
Of course, you probably feel they don't count. after all the are just ordinary Citizens.
"Grow up.
Get a job where you do not need to rely on "owning" politicians to pick the pockets of our neigbors.
And you do need to "own" politicians to make a buck...witness your desperate attempts to rig the last commissioners' race.
Oh, remember, Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox are on record against "forced hook-ups."
Why aren't your knees shaking?
Do you know something we don't know?
Do you have a receipt for your lastest politician purchase?
Have a great May!!!
"Well since I was able to move here no one else is allowed to come."
I have lived here my entire life. People have moved in and people have moved out. None of them had attorneys paid by the taxpayer(me) sending me letters threatening legal action against my family if I did not subsidize their "moving" into my community. Contrast that with what you crooks are trying to do.
"Of course, you probably feel they don't count. after all the are just ordinary Citizens."
Lacking the DCEDI pedigree and all...
...may the new breed of elected official that enters office after this year's elections not permit one more nickel of OUR money to go to these Country Club RINOs and spoiled frat boy leeches!!!
How much of our money has been designated to fixing High Ridge Estates and what has been done to stem the flow of raw sewage into hogans creek as dishonest realtor/developers have taken over the dcrsd to pad their bottomlines?
Dennerline is naming his newly reclaimed pond "Cole-Stewart Reservoir" in honor of those who financed its re-excavation!
"Well since I was able to move here no one else is allowed to come."
We have a glut of homes on the market today available for the influx of new people.
Open up the most recent MLS book...count the homes available.
But of course, that does not provide you with the kind of money that permitting you to buy up farmland at farmland prices, then having your cronies in local goverment rezoning it to residential use and the topper, having the rest of us subsidize your sewers!
Right little scoundrel?
Kiss off honey!
That is all I read about on this blog.
We all would love to read your blog. Censoring out all those who stray from your talking points may leave the reader feeling a bit cheated though, but I know I would still put it on my daily reading list. Especially the weekly “Roses to Maxwell” column written by Bob Ewbank and his sidekick Gary “Clown Shoes” Morris.
This is such intellectual talk.
You should all be proud of yourselves.
This is such intellectual talk.
You should all be proud of yourselves.
Being lectured on matters of intelligence by those who use the tactics of common thugs to try and impress their will on others is really quite rich.
We expect you to be the number one toothless yey-hoo in the truck as you run over our campaign signs come this spring.
Or one of the republican leadership single-cell organisms doing their best to soil the primary voters' choice of nominee for THEIR party in the general election.
Kind of reminds me of kids- name calling-
back to the subject at hand.
Want to lay bets on what Lawrenceburg will do with that letter of support signed by TWO and not all three commissioners?
Was Cunningham looking to find out what Fox and Hughes want- or what the citizens they are SUPPOSED to be representing want?
Will Lawrenceburg get the second letter also- the one about asking St. Leon to not force hook-ups? That one was unanimously passed.
"This is such intellectual talk."
We are all still waiting to be thrilled by your blog and daily "intellectual" contributions to county government. Still waiting for consensus from some dcedi committee on speech and propaganda to go foward with such blog?
Will Lawrenceburg get the second letter also- the one about asking St. Leon to not force hook-ups? That one was unanimously passed.
The second letter will somehow get lost on the desk of Mr. Watson somewhere under the lost letter to John Watson demanding hookup to St. Leon's sewers!!!
My mistake, I meant to say "somewhere under the lost letter of JOHN MAXWELL...
I guess I confused the puppet for the puppet master.
Was Cunningham looking to find out what Fox and Hughes want- or what the citizens they are SUPPOSED to be representing want?
Mayor Cunningham is a smart cookie. He will not accept anything from the Fox and Hughes ditsy duo with out the accompanying certified data of Jeff Hughes and family's scientific and quantitative phone surveys.
Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes, Special Olympic Political Dual Last Place Finalists.
The best of the best that Ewbank and Morris will have to offer in the Republican Primary.
January 14,2008
Dearborn County Commissioners
215B West High St.
Lawrenceburg, IN 47025
Attn: Bryan Messmore County Administrator
Re: St. Leon WWTP Expansion
Gentlemen:
We are running short of funds to continue our exploitation of those with no right of representation to fulfill our need to insure that our very special development Movers and Shakers of this County do not suffer needlessly in this present and upcoming downturn in the development market…
You all, quit picking on narcissists such as Maxwell and his adoring twins Watson and Ewbank.
Narcissists often find it impossible to have normal relationships with everyday honest people, especially with those to whom they supposedly profess to be looking out for their best interests. So often these types of narcissists participate in illicit political activities that countermand the very virtues they publicly and outwardly express. They NEED the rush that comes from such illicit activities.
Or so I am told.
But your mileage may vary.
NOTICE, THERE IS NOT ONE MENTION OF PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES IN MR. WATSON'S LETTER, BUT MANY REFERENCES TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ST. LEON SEWERS.
ASK YOURSELVES, WHO WILL BE POSITIVELY FINANCIALLY IMPACTED BY SUCH SEWERS?
NOT THOSE WHO HAVE TO TAKE OUT LOANS TO HOOK ON TO SUCH SEWERS...
...THAT IS FOR SURE.
Who has been "positively" impacted in their pocketbooks since high ridge estates was used to get control of a sewer district? Rumor has it that sewage is still draining down to hogans. So I would guess it is not the residents of high ridge enjoying any windfall. To date all the energy of the dcrsd has been focused on impacting the pocketbooks of its board members. Profitable position if you can be appointed to the dcrsd board, I reckon. This is the corrupt county fix we find ourselves in. Maybe a few elections will somehow impact the rest of us a bit better.
Choose St. Leon Sewers:
If you want to conserve water during power outages...
sign ups end Feb 22 at noon.
Hope to see some new fresh faces.
May can't come soon enough.
sign ups end Feb 22 at noon.
In other news: The Dearborn County Republican Party Leadership reminds us all that sign ups for the Primary Elections end sometime in June or July...
...see Gary Morris after Feb 23 for more details.
As to the deadline for signing up to run in the primary, Charlie Fehrman, when reached for comment stated:
"I KNOWS NOTHING! I KNOWS NOTHING! BUT MR. MAXWELL KNOWS ALL! MR. MAXWELL KNOWS ALL!"
...see Gary Morris after Feb 23 for more details.
Gary Morris and Bob Ewbank will be accepting applications for candidates to run against the republican primary winners beginning shortly after the May primary for the general election.
Only those with development shill creditentials need apply.
Perhaps we can get someone to run who has more widespread appeal- and a good head on his or her shoulders.
This concept that everything is about development should end.
And the pouring of Argosy dollars into the operational budget of the county (translation the COURTHOUSE AND JAIL)should end also. Keep the promises to the people that this would be spent on roads and one time expenses such as capital projects.
Government should do it's job- and infrastructure - particularly roads- is it's job.
Why is it on the bottom of the list now?
Who ruined that flow of money?
I agree with Mr. Zeidan!!! As a vendor that Mr. Zeidan help by sending business our way through Starlight Reception Hall he helps a lot of us here in Dearborn county from DJ, Photography, limo,
Cake, Florist, Printing, Sheriff and the police dept. by hiring them as security ,bridal shops , wedding planning. we need more people like him in this county also paying a lot taxes to help lower yours!!!
he is always looking for ways to help from volunteering his hall so the local schools can have place to hold their camp ,to non profit organization for fund raising and individuals during their hardship.
what do you morons do !!!!!!
check his Web site and see for yourself.
www.starlightreception.com.
So lets all get loans to pay for Zeiden's sewers because he did not look before he leaped when he opened his Reception Hall on non-sewered land?
And what about all the money Zeiden saved by buying land without sewers?
Will he give that back to those who will be forced to hookup to his sewers at a cost of tens of thousands of dollars?
what do you morons do !!!!!!
We all do alot, but we don't expect our neighbors to take out loans to foster our personal interests as payment for our good deeds!
John Zeiden invested heavily in property without first contacting the health department regarding the sewage requirements and you call us morons?
Maybe I will build a marina out in the middle of some cornfield then bitch that my neighbors won't dig me a reservoir!!!
Where was the Health Dept. at the very beginning of Zeiden's project?
Or did he try to sneak his sewage problems under the radar of the Health Dept. from the very start?
Let us hope that John Zeiden does not intend to open up a "Zeiden West Slopes!" He may try to force his neighbors to build him a mountain and supply him with snow!
I own a lot of land in the northwest quad and I want to start a ship building company. Now I need an ocean to start--TAX PAYERS GIVE ME A DAMM OCEAN BEFORE I START LOSING MY BUTT.
I own a lot of land in the northwest quad and I want to start a ship building company.
You are working ass-backwards!!!
You need to invest in the buildings and dry docks, purchase all the machinery, take orders for your ships, then complain that some do-nothings and anti-everythings are holding you back!!!
We need more "shipping ready" sites in Dearborn County!!!
But for Thompson, oceans would be already in the "study" phase by Vieste!!!
"I attended the meeting when john zeidan spoke to the commtioners his messgge was clear titeled "Dearborn County Moving Forward""
Well then, let us move forward from already existing infrastructure at a pace that will not bankrupt those around such development!
Expecting individual homeowners, whose only crime is having the misfortune of living near someone's proposed development, to have to go into great dept to subsidize such growth, is not the way to go.
Zeiden's problem is self-imposed, either through ignorance or by trying to play fast and lose with the sewage rules in this county.
Perhaps you are too harsh on Mr. Z.
Could it be that he is being manipulated by pro sewer forces?
Is the Health Dept. telling him that he has to be on a sewer or are they scaring him by saying- sewer is coming and if you invest in another type system the money will be wasted as we will force you on to the sewer?
He's in business- he has to make decisions and there has been a 3 year hiatus on this sewer line for west Aurora.
If the forced hook-ups were not in play- he might be able to fix his own problem.
If the DCRSD hadn't started out promising grants and freebies to everyone I wonder if they would have gotten as many to sign up. After they sign up- the rug gets pulled out from under them as DCRSD draws bigger territorial lines and suddenly there is too much income in the area to qualify for the grant. No more freebies.
Maybe these people were played for fools in someone's bigger plans.
Maybe we should step back and ask ourselves- DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A GRAVITY SEWER LINE ALONG US 50 in the long term?
The answer to that is -yes.
So build it right the first time. And don't dump it to Aurora until they can SAFELY handle the inflow.
Perhaps you are too harsh on Mr. Z.
Could it be that he is being manipulated by pro sewer forces?
Those are questions that can be easily answered by Mr. Z.
Will he answer them?
"And don't dump it to Aurora until they can SAFELY handle the inflow."
Not and interest of developer driven sewer districts.
Look how developers were doing their best to hook on to HVL's sewers when it was common knowledge that its sewer infrastructure was in a crumbling state and was consistently dumping raw sewage into Double Lick Creek.
I see you are still talking to yourselves.
I see you are still talking to yourselves.
I see you are still going to lose in May.
"I see you are still talking to yourselves."
Funny how only a "few" people talking to themselves threw Benning out of office, stopped Vieste, sent Jim West packing and has virtually stopped the proposed sewer scam of the DCRSD.
But believe what you will.
Delusions are always the first line of defense for those fragile of mind.
If any persons can be claimed to be talking to themselves, it would have to be the inbred dcedi clan. When the good folks up in the NW Quad woke them from their imaginings of running this county, they almost went into sever emotional shock.
sever = severe
"I see you are still talking to yourselves."
And you are a:
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Letter to the Commissioners:
TOWN OF ST LEON
3059 State Road #46
West Harrison, IN 47060
Phone: (812) 637-2530
January 14,2008
Dearborn County Commissioners
215B West High St.
Lawrenceburg, IN 47025
Attn: Bryan Messmore County Administrator
Re: St. Leon WWTP Expansion
Gentlemen:
As you are very well aware, two of you only exist as Commissioners due to the generosity of my clients and your desperation to rise above your meager means and intelligence levels, no matter the devastation inflicted onto the average citizens of this County...
Thank you,
John Watson
Bob Ewbank and his date, Gary Morris, at the John Maxwell benefit dance for the only Republican that matters in this County Extravaganza:
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To all the whiners, who's heads are filled with sewage..I would like to once again clarify my position on this issue. So here is the truth. Some of you may not like what i have to say, but sometimes the truth hurts.
First, I am against forced hook-ups. Except if the system is not working, and you are polluting the water, your neighbors yard, the environment, poor health, etc. If the following applies, then i think hook-ups should be made.
Anyways, in these types of situations, hook-ups would be cheaper than having to replace the entire system. Seeing the difference is easy.
Second, thanks but no thanks to those who are concerned about the sewage system of my business. My system, which is a pump and hole system keeps the environment clean.
So to those who are against forced hook-ups, how about trying a pump and hole system??
My agenda is very very clear. I have repeated it many of times. "Dearborn County Moving Forward". What does this mean?
It means that we need to develop our county.
Encourage growth and new businesses, in order to lower our taxes. (Which is an ongoing problem)
It is also to encourage a brighter future for our children, grandchildren, families, and schools.
However all of the concerns above will not come without sewage and utilities.
So now you know the truth. I hope I have cleared up any miss confusion I may have presented upon you.
If any of you have any comments or concerns about these issues, please feel free to contact me. Also if you have a better plan for Dearborn County, and you can convince me, I just might become one of you.
First, I am against forced hook-ups. Except if the system is not working, and you are polluting the water, your neighbors yard, the environment, poor health, etc.
And who determines if our septic systems are a threat to our waterways, etc?
The same forces that have turned the other way as HVL and High Ridge dumped their sewage into our waterways because they did not want to put any pressure on development interests to do "something" ahead of their plans to line their own pockets?
Or those who have somehow determined not to send a forced hook-up letter to John Maxwell in St. Leon?
John, you seem like a pleasant fellow. But what possessed you to "grow" your business without regard to our sewage rules in this county?
John, I hope, for your sake, you are merely being played and not trying to play the rest of us.
Regards.
However all of the concerns above will not come without sewage and utilities.
And to be done right, such sewers and utilities must not come before due diligence and consideration is given to do things the right, responsible and economic to all way.
The quick and extraordinary cheap fix now offered by the dcrsd to buffer the bottom lines of a few greedy realtors, developers and businessmen is nowhere in the vicinity of following the proper course that may benefit ALL of us who reside in this county.
We need growth to lower our taxes...
...no matter what it may ultimately cost the taxpayer in the end...
...sorry...
...no sale...
...Mr. "Z!"
You people are screwed in the hesd.
"Also if you have a better plan for Dearborn County"
How about a plan not to buy land not sewered for the price of land not sewered and not trying to forced the rest of us to sewer your land to fit your present financial means?
Just a thought.
You people are screwed in the hesd.
Speak for yourself, my "hesd" is screwed on straight, thank you very much.
By the way John, even Yossarian came to realize that Catch-22 does not actually exist.
Quit believing the absurdity that DCRSD is trying to convince you is real.
My system, which is a pump and hole system keeps the environment clean.
So, your pump and haul system is something you planned and integrated into your business plan from the very beginning for your Reception Hall?
Or did forces outside your original plans oblige you into your pump and haul strategy?
If you did not envision pump and haul in your original business model, what circumstances later led you to believe that the pump and haul paradigm would best fit your commercial model for your business?
The County needs to make long term plans for real (gravity) sewers not these make-shift, expensive to the customer pressurized sewers that do not function when the power goes out.
Simply because a handful of conflicted realtor/developers and businessmen want sewers now so they can build dense subdivisions far from existing infrastructure is not reason enough to force these "cheap" sewers on the rest of us.
And let us see a raise of hands of those who trust Doug Baer to objectively rate our septic systems as "functional" when he is doing the dirty work of Maxwell and Company to force the rest of us to subsidize their push for growth in rural areas?
What has Doug Baer done to stem the flow of High Ridge's raw sewage into Hogan's Creek? He has sat back and let development interests on the dcrsd hold the High Ridge fix hostage until these development interests get their demanded terms that best fits their personal profit desires. Doug Baer cannot be trusted.
Dissolve the dcrsd ASAP.
Let development near the existing sewer systems drive development, not "way out" spot development drive the infrastructure. If the developers/bankers/lawyers want "way out", unconnected, development let THEM find a way to pay for good gravity sewers. The taxpayers of Dearborn Co. WILL NOT pay the price for their need of sewers at the distant areas. Dearborn County has other more important projects to utilize their TAX dollars ,roads and bridges for two examples.
Dissolve the dcrsd NOW!
The DCRSD will continue to push for sewers out to their board members and buddies' next farm purchase.
That is what the DCRSD is about and why it was formed.
Mr. Zeidan. Thank you for setting the record straight. You are completely right that this county has to develop areas that should be developed; however, you are a complete moron to think I should make my neighbors pay for a sewage line so your business increases in land value and makes developers hungry to put empty strip plazas next to my land. You are a fool to think others should pay for your development schemes. Sell out and just go away. Your pole barn building is pathetic. Have you seen nice reception halls? Go buy one and run your business the right way. Requesting taxpayers to fund your operation and develop land around them because you personally want it is not a good reason for this county to spend money. Please just go away. Knock down your building like Dr. Rahe and go away.
It is clear that the majority in this county do not want what the dcrsd is trying to shove down their throats. But you will not see Jeff Hughes phone surveying the "silenced" majority to document their feelings. Jeff is nothing but a tool who will be cast aside by those he has been brown nosing once he and Rick Fox lose their reelection.
The DCRSD could not and cannot be justified to the citizen-taxpayers of this County because at its very inception it was corrupt down to its very roots. That is why it took a couple of title attorneys who had much to gain by forcing development in rural areas to rush the implementation of the DCRSD into existence, walking their uneducated and dimwitted political lackeys completely through the entire process of creating a sham of a sewer district.
As High Ridge estates continues to dump its gross effluent into our waterways...
The question was asked earlier concerning why Mr. Zeiden "chose" a pump and haul system that "keeps the environment clean?"
Was the "pump and haul" system truly of his own choosing or was he forced or coerced by the Health Dept. to make such a decision?
And if he was forced into such a decision, what are the underlying reasons for the Health Dept. forcing him to so?
Any answers floating around out there to such questions?
Some posted earlier relative to Mr. Z's need for a "pump and haul" permit:
You need to check the Board of Health meeting notes!! You will find the truth.
Could someone please obtain these notes and post them on this blog?
Such notes may make for interesting reading!
I was thinking the same thing as to the health department notes concerning john zeiden and his pump and haul needs. Is there a website available to download such notes? I would personally go down to request these notes, but I would not want Doug Baer out at my home looking for a frog hair of a reason to condemn my septic system.
John Zeidan, I and many others in our county take offense to your statement "Dearborn County Moving Forward" means "developing our county" and that this is "a brighter future for our children and families". You and a few others are the minority in this county that want to destroy what is good about this county for you own personal gains. The magority of residence enjoy our way of life and don't intend to prostitute our communities for personal gain. My family, friends and neighbors here in Northern Dearborn County are tired of fighting the continuous attack by your kind, but care about our rural community so much that we will never stop fighting. The only way for us to gain from the DCEDI "Grand Plan" is to sell our land and homes and move away. Sorry, we truely care about Deaborn County and are here to stay.
Agriculture is a vital part of the future of the US, to provide food
, fiber and now fuel. Why isn't
isn't DCEDI and the Chamber of Commerce "developing" ideas in that industry.
John, ask around and see why people live here. This is also the reason some bloggers are so angry. They care about living here in rural Dearborn County, not selling it out.
And Bloggers lets spend some space talking about what is good about Dearborn County and why we want to live here and what we what to see in the future. Thank for you time.
I love the his county and its rural setting. It is why I live here. I do not long to live in West Chester or Colerain Township. I do not see my nor my children’s' wellbeing being inextricably linked to bulldozing our countryside to promote more generic and aesthetically bland housing and strip malls.
There is no shortage of such development within a twenty or thirty mile driving distance from our rural environment.
This County is not crying out for such development, only a few realtors, developers and their associates desire such for a cheap and fast profit.
Listen to the true vocal majority, not the manufactured, faceless and non-existent majority that Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox pretend they are representing.
Mark Hall speaks for more good and honest folks in this County than all the development shills combined.
"The only way for us to gain from the DCEDI "Grand Plan" is to sell our land and homes and move away."
Yes, our position in such growth planned by the "movers and shakers" of this county is that we must give up our lives and community ties to support the prosperity of a few spoiled and entitled grown children! Who will take over the mantle of Vieste to further such goals?
Mark Hall speaks for most of this County.
Bob Ewbank has ordered Fox and Hughes to pretend that he does not.
Hence the necessary derivative nonsense of "sitting on" the Comprehensive Plan!
Fire Bob Ewbank.
And watch his few surviving political noxious fruits wilt on the vine.
"Fire Bob Ewbank."
Thank you, Bob Ewbank can be fired more easily than anyone else in this County! Too many lower desperate political types seem to think they must kiss the ring of Bob Ewbank to even be considered for election to office to represent the "people" of this County. Nothing could be further from the truth, but such a misconception certainly lends support to walling up Bob Ewbank's make-believe power in this County! May our next round of elections put Bob Ewbank in his deserved place!
Mark Hall, because he does not grovel or cringe at the feet of Maxwell and his accomplices is "anti-everything" and a "do-nothing" simply because he is rightfully emotionally and sentimentally attached to his home and property.
This is how far some greedy self-absorbed bastards in this county have sunken.
Remove the greedy from their position of political power and let them compete and vie one on one with those they would like too bully into submission to reach the level of “growth” that brings them the greatest amount of riches for the least amount of effort, intelligence or competence required.
Once faced with any obstacle greater than the phony and empty pleadings of Fox and Hughes “to not force your will on powerless citizens of this County, if at all possible, as long as it does not interfere whatsoever with your profit margins,” then watch them all slither back leaving their trail of roach laden debris behind in their path to their most foul nether regions wherever roaches go to climb upon each other in a DCEDI tumult.
Now that the DCRSD is sinking fast, watch for a push to appoint "fresh faces” to its board as the “powers that be,” who cling to any lost remnant of thinking they still run this county, rearrange the deck chairs on the DCRSD TITANIC!
Mark Hall:
Wasn't he the guy that tried to run for county commissioner and got slaughtered in the primary?
So much for him speaking for the majority of residents in the county. He is as much a fake now as he was back then! Follow the money and you will not believe what you find with this guy. He is not a farmer, he is a commodities broker!
It would seem that Dearborn County is chock full of third rate back room political hacks that think they are somehow political geniuses as they try to foist fourth rate politicians on rest of us! Of course, one is left in complete wonderment how these self-defined political geniuses thought even the most lame-brained could endure the likes of Benning (gone) and Fox and Hughes (soon to be gone)! Hubris must truly erode the mind!
Do you have have the courage to use your name "Mr. Anonymous"?
Mark Hall:
Wasn't he the guy that tried to run for county commissioner and got slaughtered in the primary?
Now that the local republican leadership has proven to be corrupt and no respectable republican will follow its mandates, I wonder how Mark Hall would do if he should decided to run in the republican primary?
Surely, Johnny Nugent could not support any republican candidates that spat in the face of republican primary voters last commissioners' race, right?
I wonder what two development owned commissioners will get "slaughtered" in the May primary? I wonder if they will bow out gracefully or throw their support to the first development shills their masters can find to run against the republican primary winners?
Someone tell me, did Mark Hall, when he lost his primary, immediately try to undermine the republican rank and file vote by throwing a development induced temper tantrum and endorse someone else to try and undermine the republican rank and file vote?
I don't think so!
There is an easy way to skip anonymous on the blog and give yourself a "stage" name. Highlight the nickname circle on the comment section and then type in your initials or a nickname of your choosing. You do NOT have to fill in the url section.
I'm putting my initials as cbm(for chris mueller) in that nickname spot.
It makes it easier for us to respond to each other.
He is not a farmer, he is a commodities broker!
So us farmers are not as stupid as you so smart barely making ends meet construction workers and holdout(because of your position as commissioner) refinery workers say we are?
Maybe us dirt farmers have more to offer that a few of you Maxwell and Ewbank butt boys?
I know CBM, CBM was a friend of mine, you sir are no CBM.
"I know CBM, CBM was a friend of mine..."
Thank you Lloyd Bentsen!!!
Mark Hall:
Not willing to do the extra-contrary-ethical gymnastics that Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes do for their development masters.
And he is considered and "outsider" in local republican politics?
How odd is that?
Will Vera Benning be there for her two soul mates when they lose their primaries?
Who will be left for her two soul mates to give them taxpayer paid patronage jobs?
My question for Mark Hall: Would you, if you were a Commissioner, be for or against forced sewer hookups?
And if you are against forced hookups, would you really be against forced hookups or would you play the development choreographed game of saying you are against forced hookups while doing your very best, at every opportunity, to foster forced hookups…as Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes have proven capable of doing?
Mark Hall is a good man. His mouth gets him in trouble sometimes but his message is quite clear. He may need to tone his voice down in public meetings because when he speaks the panel of people puts in their ear plugs and they shut down. Sending a neighbor or relative to speak on his behalf would go a long way. I support his thoughts, I really do.
Mark Hall is a passionate man who would prefer to stay out of politics but for those trying to do their best to undermine his and his neighbors’ lives for their own short-term gain.
I heard on the radio a meeting will be held at the Dearborn Adult Center sometime soon. DCEDI and the Chamber are going to talk to Honda reps. That is interesting. What's the intent of that? TO GET SHOVEL READY sites available in Dearborn County? All I can say is look at all the empty buildings in downtown Aurora, downtown Lawrenceburg, the buildings along US 50...SAD SAD SAD.
"I heard on the radio a meeting will be held at the Dearborn Adult Center sometime soon. DCEDI and the Chamber are going to talk to Honda reps. That is interesting. What's the intent of that? TO GET SHOVEL READY sites available in Dearborn County? "
To late to put the genie back into the bottle...
...the landowners are now apprised of the value of their land...
...which somehow removes the motivation for the self-described, self-defined best and the brightest of this County to take advantage of us mere mortals who hold title to the land they need to be considered great land speculators and princes of the their Country Clubs for a grand weekend.
If anyone should decide to sell their land relative to some Honda related plant or secondary supplying company, be sure to first peruse thoroughly the DCEDI membership roster and demand no one or company on such DCEDI membership list be involved in the sale or proceeding transactions.
Never forget what the DCEDI membership had planned for you and your property.
Give no quarter to those who were willing to treat you as mere pawns in their game to enrich themselves at your expense.
I know I could never vote for Mark Hall because I do not think he could ever work with the rotating alternated owners of the Dearborn County Commissioners:
Lisa Lehner and Bob Ewbank.
Think about it.
Would you really want a Commissioner that was not willing to work fluently with the expertise of Lehner and Ewbank?
Not willing to follow every memo sent down from Lehner or Ewbank?
Not willing to bend to the greater interests of Dearborn County's finest: John Maxwell?
Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes are the only candidates to be counted upon to meet all the needs of Lehner, Ewbank and the omnipresent John Maxwell!
Because we all gain by such an amalgam.
Even if it all costs us our homes and savings.
Or so we are told by our local peddlers of growth.
Growth, as our local peddlers of growth define it, of course.
I guess we should all thank our lucky stars, if Mark Hall would have been elected a Commissioner, there might have been some information desemiated in the news as to what a handful of realtor/developers had planned for us. And where is the fun of being pre-warned as to the evils that are about to overtake us?
So level the playing field. Let us all see the facts and be part of the decisions.
Scary?
A level playing field for our local development interests is similar to one party owning all the lift tickets for a season at Perfect North Slopes.
Good luck for those not in the loop getting to the top of any hill soon!
"Encourage growth and new businesses, in order to lower our taxes. (Which is an ongoing problem)..."
O. K. Zeiden, give us data in Regard to development and lower taxes. This is information that you and your ilk never seem to offer. Why is that? Don't tell us about Blue Ash Ohio as did Rozow.
You seem to be a high powered business man so tell me why does Indianapolis which has all sorts of businesses paying all sorts of taxes have such high property taxes.
Come on boy give me your data regarding the relationship between development and lower taxes and then tell me why Indianapolis has such high property taxes. !!!!!Othrwise just sign off.
Level playing fields? Like those “playing fields” where the republican wins the republican primary and the republican leadership immediately shop around for a democrat to cancel out such a republican win?
Seems like a bumpy and divot filled field to me.
"...and then tell me why Indianapolis has such high property taxes.:
Crazy Al strikes again!
On point and factual!
But he just cannot seem to match the talking points of Ewbank, Maxwell and Morris!
So he must be crazy!
While Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox get it!
If only crazy Al had his nose so far up the information "butt" highway of the Ewbank, Maxwell and Morris as Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox!
So level the playing field. Let us all see the facts and be part of the decisions.
Scary?
Scary for Ewbank and his underlings...
...remember when Vera Benning lost...
...all stops were pulled out to maintain control of all facts...
...even with only one of their puppets down(Benning) they still freaked!
Without the additional voice in the chorus of dim-witted oh to be somebody hopefulls, like Benning, our local bully development interests feel extremely vulnerable!
Alan S. Freemond, Sr. said...
"Encourage growth and new businesses, in order to lower our taxes. (Which is an ongoing problem)..."
Not only indianapolis. Try Cincinnati, Chicago, Atlanta or any large city.
By the development logic these should all have low taxes.
If Cincinnati has such low taxes why are Cincinnatians moving to Dearborn County to get lower taxes??
The logic is flawed!
Could it be that Mark Hall lost the election because some Realtor and others in the Republican spend big money on negative ads and billboards?
Were they fearful he might disclose their plans to the public and do something to hinder their control of the County?
Could it be that Mark Hall lost the election because some Realtor and others in the Republican spend big money on negative ads and billboards?
Maybe so, but that servant of the people, Dearborn county's answer to great statesmen, our own beloved, respectged Jophnnnnnnny Nugent, mixed into the primary on behalf of Fox. Johnny excused this violation of republican ethics by saying that he didn't know that Hall was running against his friend Fox.
If he didn't know that there was a primary contest between Fox and Hall ( the people's choice) then why did he mix in??
Johnmnnnny didn't even know that his money was being used to help the campaign of Linkmeyer against Thompson.
Apparently he doesn't know anything.
Nugent is so yesterday, Boss Hogg politics...
Let us see if Johnny is willing to "publicly" throw his support in the primary to two republicans who told the rank and file republican primary voters to go to hell and supported the chosen development democrat candidate in the last comissioners' general election?
Johnny says I do to know something. I can tell you what kind of spark plug your Cub Cadet takes.
Johnny says I do to know something. I can tell you what kind of spark plug your Cub Cadet takes.
No he could screw that up too. He doesn't know, he says so; we must understand that.
Honda is sending a speaker to a Chamber luncheon at Tate St Adult Center today (weather permitting) Reservations were required for due to the luncheon.
It will be interesting to hear what Honda tells us of their plans and experiences. It will be interesting to see how it gets "interpreted" too.
It will be interesting to hear what Honda tells us of their plans and experiences.
Mr.Iida:
"ONE THING WE HAVE LEARNED FROM OUR EXEPERIENCES TO DATE, IS THAT SEPTIC SYSTEMS SIMPLY DO NOT WORK IF THEY SERVICE HOMES AROUND PROPOSED SUBDIVISIONS THAT NEED ALL TO CHIP IN FOR THEIR SEWERS TO MAKE A PROFIT.
FURTHER IF ALL RURAL AREAS WERE SERVIVED BY PRESSURIZED SEWERS AND GRINDER PUMPS, HONDA WOULD HAVE MINI-PLANTS ALL OVER THE STATE OF INDIANA.
BY THE WAY, WHERE IS JIM WEST, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE THAT LIST OF ALL THOSE SECONDARY SUPPLIERS HE SAID THAT WE AT HONDA HAD PLANNED FOR THE I-74 CORRIDOR OF DEARBORN COUNTY?"
As it stands today those pushing for heavy development in this County because of their conflicts of interests and drive to keep the majority of profits for themselves have proven to be the "Gang That Can Not Shoot Straight" as to development matters of this County!
Let us not forget who started the St.Leon sewer crisis, The great Ted Stenger.
Shut down the sewer scammers of St. Leon!!!
Make Maxwell, his friends and a handful of lawyer creeps get second jobs!!!
It is not our place to see them through their cyclical "BAD TIMES!!!"
Notice how the funds for St. Leon and the DCRSD are drying up? Sucks to have an informed electorate and an honest sub-set of politicians. Must have really sucked to have to rely on such dingleberrys as Benning, Fox and Hughes to do your flunky heavy-lifting. Anyone know how Chuck Andres is doing "promoting" development in this County with his high-end priced sewered land paid for by his neighbors? Is he truly working for the betterment of this County, or is he just doing his best to get the best deal possible, subsidized by the rest of us, to garner more dollars into his savings account? Is he anti-everything and a do-nothing as he trys to prosper himself solely at the cost of development interests in this County?
The first real act of the new Republican Local Party Chairman (Morris) should be to fire and/or not endorse any Republican involved in the Newspaper Ad/Flyer that had "Support These Candidates" which listed all Republicans and the Development endorsed Democrat listed there upon, without any listing of the Republican Nonimee, Ralph Thompson, who just happened to be against forced hookups...
"The first real act of the new Republican Local Party Chairman (Morris)..."
Should be to point out the lies of Ewbank, Fox and Hughes when they say they are against forced hook ups with those with "functioning" septic systems, when they know full well that Doug Baer is willing and able to condemn any septic system for any reason no matter how small the infraction.
The same Doug Baer who has sat idly by as the VRUC and the DCRSD has allowed raw sewage to flow into our waterways as their boards devised ways to have development interests take control of such sewer concerns to meet their development demands.
The first real act of the new Republican Local Party Chairman (Morris) should be to fire and/or not endorse any Republican involved in the Newspaper Ad/Flyer that had "Support These Candidates"
How about the republican primary voter refuse to ever support any republican listed on that flyer until someone on that list comes forward as to who was the "brain child" of such idea?
As a few crooked politically connected realtor/developers lose hope of forcing the rest of us to finance, underwrite and insure their development, Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes have begun to sport t-shirts with this slogan written on them:
"KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!"
Vote for jeff hughes and rick fox. Please do not leave maxwell and ewbank at the mercy of those voters who believe that all residents of this county should have equal rights and equal say in this county.
"that all residents of this county should have equal rights and equal say in this county."
Like all those poor slobs that thought their voice mattered with their participation in the Comp. Plan and surveys for such Plan only to be told their efforts meant nothing because their efforts did not ratify what a few dishonest development interests wanted therefore Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox negated such efforts?
Take out the guys who nullified the people's voices.
Vote some new ones in.
Developer driven St. Leon and the DCRSD if left to their own devices would have over half this County on pressurized sewers that do not function when the power fails, setting up this County for a major health disaster if we ever have a widespread power failure. What are the contingency plans for such a disaster? Why do not St. Leon, the DCRSD and their enablers such as Fox, Hughes, Fehrman, Barrott and Morris never address these contingency plans?
If only Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes had someone like Bill Clinton out there to campaign for them...to "press the flesh" so to speak:
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Look at the Comprehensive Plan, it had no teeth, no real legal limitations, it was just a "go-by," yet Hughes and Fox's superiors ordered them to not even agree to that!
This is how anal and control crazy a few certain development interests are in this county!
Now that the voters are waking up, expect these folks therapy session bills to increase dramatically!
Yep, developers and their minions in this county's idea of "compromise" is to not even give an inch concerning inconsequental matters. We are dealing with bullies, plain and simple. Vote their peons out of office. Watch the bullies wither and die.
I, for one, am sort of going to miss our County ham-fisted, tard bullies!
Imagine a County with only Grey, no authentic black and white, easy to recognize, thieves in waiting!
Imagine a County with actual "smart" crooks?
Imagine the efforts that would be needed to stop them in their crooked tracks?
Give me a crooked and stupid republican leadership...everytime!
They permit the honest folks to just sit back and permit the rest of our honest citizens to take in the magnatude of their dishonesty.!
No effort on our parts!
"Give me a crooked and stupid republican leadership...every time!"
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just think of the gifts and reprieves our mendacious indigenous development low-life delinquents have offered us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Envision the battle it would have taken to make things right if they were more chameleon in their labors to subvert our savings for their personal gluttonous desires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make thanks that our local development interests are dumber than a box of rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make thanks that our local development interests are dumber than a box of rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that makes Rick and Jeff dumber than a box of rocks' droppings?
Poor Mr. Maxwell and Mr. Ewbank...watching the rest of us squander their resources...resources that we presently own...outright...someone please...step in...save us from using our resources...that could be better served by Mr. Maxwell and Mr. Ewbank...they have such big plans for OUR resourses...and they have proven...by their actions...to be so much smarter than us...all...
I thought this blog was supposed to be family friendly? That is what Chris has asked! Would all the morons quite using the foul language? Is this request plain enough for the potty mouths?
You idiots are still talking to who?
I read this blog and say what a bunch of losers.
And it is unreal how you will answer to this.
"I read this blog and say what a bunch of losers."
Losers?
Let us see who the "losers" will be come this May primary!
Have a wonderful and delightful weekend!
Speaking of idiots, how are Jeff Hughes' phone calls coming? How are Rick Fox's stretch marks doing after all those times of Ewbank having his hand stuck up his bum as he works Rick's mouth?
And it is unreal...how our local sewer crooks' funding is drying up.
In a few short months, Bob Ewbank will not be in a position of leading our politicians around by the nose, he will be left only with suing our new, honest politicians and the rest of us taxpayers, to try to get what he could not get through his simpleton politician manipulation! Either way, he will not be looking out for the majority of this County's best interests! Which may be why John Maxwell finds him so darned attractive!
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