MEET THE CANDIDATES NIGHT
All candidates for county offices in the May 6 primary election are invited along with the public:
Each candidate should plan to speak for 5-10 minutes on the issues.
Each candidate will be expected to answer a few questions from the public.
Come Meet The Candidates, hear their views, & ask questions.
When - Wednesday, April 30 at 6:00 –8:00 PM
Where -North Dearborn Library
North Dearborn Road – Logan Township
Refreshments will be provided (soda, chips, coffee)
For more information contact Robert Bissett
Email - rbizzett@aol.com
812.212.2901 (cell phone)
Regards,
Robert Bissett
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1 – 200 of 221 Newer› Newest»Sorry, Hughes, Fox, Pope, Fehrman and Barrett already have plans, so Bob Ewbank will speak on all their behalf's.
Fehrman might show up, but only to grill those other candidates who say they do not support the crooked dcrsd!
While he knows that Frank Linkmeyer is not running this election cycle, Tim Barrett would still like to show up and speak on Linkmeyer's behalf to threaten Cliff Eibeck and others who refuse to buckle under to Barrett's bullying friends!!!
A question that needs to be asked to the candidates is why is there not one disenting voice on the DCRSD's board and if they agree with such?
This is just great! We already have one Buckeye commissioner transplant with a personal agenda- just think of all the money taxpayers can save if we get another one and commissioners meetings can be held as pillow talk instead of at the courthouse!!!
This is just great! We already have one Buckeye commissioner transplant with a personal agenda
Did you meet Jim West from the Carolinas?
Jim Rostow who lives in Kentucky.
Steve Renihan, still a Buckeye?
Morris a transplant from God knows where?
Speaking of pillow talk, shouldn't you thieving bastard development interlopers at least whisper in the taxpayers' ears before you try to screw them?
Benning was buckeye.
But she earns hoosier brown nosing points from her development masters.
Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox both should get a "going steady" ring from Maxwell and Ewbank!
Let us hope that Maxwell and Ewbank do not forget Jeff and Rick on "Sweetest Day" after they lose their respective elections!
Gee, I'm a lifer in this county, but it is you good old county boys who keep trying to screw me.
But keep up alienating and name calling an ever-growing transplant population and voting block.
Make sure that you will remain out of power for decades to come.
Fool.
Lisa Lehner partnered up with a buckeye law firm, let us make sure she never again gets a chance to work on the taxpayers' dime!!!
If you check the immigration pattern for Dearborn County- almost all of us came through Ohio to get here....
What made us leave their and live here I wonder?
Isn't John Maxwell already courting a new "Sweetie" by the name of Rick Pope?
You development idiots would not even have to contend with Thompson if you had not tried bullying him to subsidize your favorite crooks' sewers...
It is obvious that Ohio wouldn't put up with your nonsence so you had to come here. Oh, lucky us!
It is obvious that Ohio wouldn't put up with your nonsence so you had to come here. Oh, lucky us!
And Rozow could not get a job in Northern Kentucky. It is obvious that Kentucky wouldn't put up with his nonsense so he had to come to work here. Oh, lucky us!
It is obvious that Ohio wouldn't put up with Steve Renihan's nonsense so he had to come here. Oh, lucky us!
Vera Benning, it is obvious that Ohio wouldn't put up with her nonsense so she had to come here. Now the voters kicked her out of office. Oh, lucky us!
Liz Morris, it is obvious that where ever she is from they wouldn't put up with her nonsense so she had to come here. Now the voters look forward to kicking her out of office next time she is up for election. Oh, lucky us!
I could go on...
AND WE SENT JIM WEST BACK HOME BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T PUT UP WITH HIS NONSENSE.
OH, LUCKY US.
An election year.
Oh, lucky us.
Not so lucky for our local development shills and political hacks.
Buckeye Vera Benning is so unemployable, voters have to continue to pay for her patronage jobs, even after they had thrown her out of office.
I would like to see you pro-development guys show up somewhere for a good ass kidkin. Name the time and place. Remember, you only represent about 3% of the population.
Remember, you only represent about 3% of the population.
But until after this year's elections, they still have 85% of our local politicians in their pockets.
the hole county has went to crap fox hughes thompson i got a question on environmetal just a heads up hope your all there looking foreward to it.
One of the many indications of the sleazy governance we have had in Dearborn County is illustrated by the childish prank of stealing an a opponent's campaign sign.
IT is illegal, it is, well as I say typical of Dearborn County governance.
Now Jeff Hughes we see that where Kathy Scott signs were they were removed and your signs replaced them. This is shameful Hughes. Tell your goons and friends from DCEI, DCRSD and yes the Republican party central Committee to stop it, right now. Have you no shame????, No Pride????
WHAT WE NEED IN THIS COUNTY IS NOT A UNIFORMED AND ARMED POLICE OFFICER AT MEETINGS, Of course Messmore claims that Indiana Code requireds their presence at meeting. Wrong again WE SIMPLY NEED A COUPLE OF CHILD PSYCHIATRISTS.
One of the many indications of the sleazy governance we have had in Dearborn County is illustrated by the childish prank of stealing an a opponent's campaign sign.
IT is illegal, it is, well as I say typical of Dearborn County governance.
Now Jeff Hughes we see that where Kathy Scott signs were they were removed and your signs replaced them. This is shameful Hughes. Tell your goons and friends from DCEI, DCRSD and yes the Republican party central Committee to stop it, right now. Have you no shame????, No Pride????
WHAT WE NEED IN THIS COUNTY IS NOT A UNIFORMED AND ARMED POLICE OFFICER AT MEETINGS, Of course Messmore claims that Indiana Code requireds their presence at meeting. Wrong again WE SIMPLY NEED A COUPLE OF CHILD PSYCHIATRISTS.
Have you no shame????, No Pride????
Soon to have no elected office.
It is the natural process of a dying political hack.
I feel sorry for Rick Fox, at least Jeff Hughes gets to find out May 6 that he will be booted from office.
Poor Rick will have to wait all those agonizing months till November before it is "official" that he will also be booted from office.
Witte signs are disappearing faster than butter in the sun on a hot July day. Shame on you Cleary.
Does anyone know what as a** kidkin is? Must be a Buckeye term.
Is Crazy Al saying that Indiana Code doesn't require a uniformed officer? Crazy Al, can you cite what the code does say?
"Is Crazy Al saying that Indiana Code doesn't require a uniformed officer? Crazy Al, can you cite what the code does say?"
Look it up yourself, princess!
I don't have time or the interest to look in the code at this moment, but unless my memory fails me you will see language similar to this:
THE COUNTY SHERIFF OR A COUNTY POLICE OFFICER SHALL ATTEND THE
MEETINGS OF…IF REQUESTED BY THE EXECUTIVE…
“If requested,” is the operative phrase.
Knock yourself out coming up with something different than my memory, lotus blossom.
On another subject, it looks like the experienced adults will most likely be taking over much of the VRUC’s functions (see this week’s Register).
Another blow for our corrupt and ego bloated DCRSD.
"Is Crazy Al..."
It must suck to always have your clock cleaned politically by a supposive "crazy" person?
Has counseling been helpful for you in dealing with such a harsh, blatant and unavoidable reality?
Pretty soon, dcrsd board members will be able to park in emotionally and intellectually handicapped parking spaces.
You left out ethically handicapped parking spaces...
I thought that was just a given!
Is Crazy Al saying that Indiana Code doesn't require a uniformed officer? Crazy Al, can you cite what the code does say?
Here it is: No sweat
IC 36-2-2-15-(d)
(d) The county sheriff or a county police officer shall attend the meetings of the executive, if requested by the executive, and shall execute its orders.
Maybe you ought to read it to Messmore, he messed up on it. How the Hell can anyone mess up this simple paragraph--- but he did and we are paying this guy, Fox's and Hughes's choice. Lord have mercy upon us.
Maybe you ought to read it to Messmore, he messed up on it.
If Ewbank provided him with the code, I'm sure the "if requested" language was redacted because it did not fit Ewbank's development agenda.
Fire both Messmore and Ewbank.
i here that FOX and HUGHES THOMPSON has got all the highway trucks parked now thats good but how the people fire trucks life squads in bright going to get up and down the hills this winter when there are parked in manchester?
On another subject, it looks like the experienced adults will most likely be taking over much of the VRUC’s functions (see this week’s Register).
The DCRSD has no successes, many failures and conflicts of interests coming out their asses.
It has snakes, bullies and crybabies for board members.
It has a washed out brown nosing political hack for a secretary.
It has an attorney who is partners with the biggest pro-development prick and power hungry egomaniac.
It has no infrastructure.
It has no experience.
It has no support by any of the reputable sewer concerns in the county.
The only few people who support the DCRSD are those lining up to fatten themselves up on our dollars.
Any politician who wishes to remain in office will not support the DCRSD.
What's the story on this Renihan?
Do the local unemployables believe that there is no one in Dearborn County capable of sitting on the board of DCRSD that exclusive, well educated highly successful self sacrificing group of community leaders. Huh, is that it?
Since our development friends keep telling us that there is no development taking place in this county, shouldn't Maxwell then have all the time in the world to hookup to St. Leon's sewers? I'm sure he has the equipment to do it. With it all sitting idle and all.
"Do the local unemployables believe that there is no one in Dearborn County capable of sitting on the board of DCRSD..."
Even the local realtor/developer thieves are hesitant to be associated with the dcrsd ethical cluster fudge!
Now they must bus new conflicted board members in from out of state.
Pretty soon, the only requirement for being a dcrsd board member will be a poor quality fake Green Card.
"i here that FOX and HUGHES THOMPSON has got all the highway trucks parked now thats good but how the people fire trucks life squads in bright going to get up and down the hills this winter when there are parked in manchester?"
Please don't be ridiculous- why should the trucks be run every day all year to worker's homes for a few days of snow and ice?
Why not send workers home with trucks only if needed? Or have an on call guy for emergencies if that seems to be s problem. Just how many emergencies do we have per year? Numbers please.
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"...shouldn't Maxwell then have all the time in the world to hookup to St. Leon's sewers"
Give John Maxwell a break!
He is now a public servant!
His days are now entirely made up of taking care of the public!
Think about how many forced sewer hookup letters he must draft a day to be sent out to the rest of us!
Get this week's register. Brian Groh took development's little bad boy to the woodshed.
And the front page tells of possible good news for HVL and the County as a whole.
Loved the title on the Brian Groh Guest Column in the Register- SEND HUGHES A MESSAGE HE'LL ACTUALLY HEAR.
Highway crews in this county can and are called out at any time day or night all year long when we have wind and trees are blown down on the roads, we have slips where dirt washes out on the road, water on the road and signage has to be erected, snow and ice, and many other occasions when it is not effective or efficient to drive 20 miles to get a truck to drive back 20 miles to do 30 minute job.
It's a little ridiculous to assume you will know when emergencies will happen so you can send a truck home that night. That is why they are called emergencies. If you have a person on call, that is once again assuming you will know what the situation will be at 2 o'clock in the morning and what will be needed. And when this is all determined, look at what you are paying the highway workers and what is expected of them. There is a big difference. Most of the county would not work for the salary the highway workers get paid.
I read Groh's article. There are some interesting points but alot of twisted and inaccurate statements that most county residents will think have some merit. Too bad we can't just get honest people to give us both sides of the issues so we can make up our own minds. We just continue to get misleading innuendos to attack individuals who are doing what most county residents would not do, serve the public in an elected capacity. They then have to endure half truths like on this opinion page.
I read Groh's article. There are some interesting points but alot of twisted and inaccurate statements that most county residents will think have some merit.
Point out the twisted and inaccurate statements please.
"They then have to endure half truths like on this opinion page."
What half truths?
All we ever get from the development side are blanket, vague answers spouting on and on about "half truths, anti-everythings and do-nothings."
You development folks are in a political and credibility crisis.
You better get past mere slogans and labels and defend your positions, if you can.
You no longer can run roughshod over those who oppose you by simple governmental fiat.
You no longer run this county.
You no longer run this county.
Just watch how fast these development thugs who felt they could shout us down, while denying our right to speak, turn into absolute little girlish whiners after they lose all semblance of their hoped for banana republic type power!!!
Give John Maxwell a break!
He is now a public servant!
His days are now entirely made up of taking care of the public!
Think about how many forced sewer hookup letters he must draft a day to be sent out to the rest of us!
Hilarious!
Don't you wonder how many pissed of conversations he has had about the rest of us refusing to hook on to such shoddy sewers and how much time and energy he has expended devising ways to lawyer us to death, with lawyers paid for on our dime, until we do?
What an arrogant bastard he is...
"Point out the twisted and inaccurate statements please."
DON'T EXPECT ANY RESPONSE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER HIT AND RUN DEVELOPMENT SHILL TRYING TO PRETEND THAT DIRECT HITS ARE SOMEHOW MISSES. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. THE TRUTH TO THEM IS AKIN TO WATER THROWN ON THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST!
Loved the title on the Brian Groh Guest Column in the Register- SEND HUGHES A MESSAGE HE'LL ACTUALLY HEAR.
Unless such message is delivered to him by one of his dcedi editorial ghostwriters, I still doubt he will fathom the ramifications to him and his short and sorry political career.
I'm sure he believes that even if he loses the primary, Ewbank could and would legally change Jeff's name to Linkmeyerson so he can run and win as an independent candidate in the general election.
Jeff is delusional, if you have not noticed!
Is Crazy Al saying that Indiana Code doesn't require a uniformed officer? Crazy Al, can you cite what the code does say?
Where did you go, Francis?
You can only lick your wounds so long before it looks absolutely creepy!
From the movie "Stripes" with Bill Murray and Warren Oates:
"The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill ...
...Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis. ..."
Funny!
Expect Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox, sometime before November of this year, to address the need of the DCRSD for two more secretaries.
"If Ewbank provided him with the code, I'm sure the "if requested" language was redacted because it did not fit Ewbank's development agenda."
Or maybe, this Bryan Messmore character, is just as duplicitous as Ewbank?
An egregious act that is hard to follow and fathom, but with a lot of hard, underhanded application of personal resources, attainable by one willing to put the hours in at work while leaving their soul at home.
"We just continue to get misleading innuendos to attack individuals who are doing what most county residents would not do, serve the public in an elected capacity."
GOOD NEWS! WE HAVE A GREAT CROP OF CANDIDATES THIS YEAR WILLING TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IN AN ELECTED CAPACITY! JEFF HUGHES AND RICK FOX CAN FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WHEN THEY ARE TRANSITIONED OUT OF OFFICE AFTER THIS YEAR'S ELECTIONS, THEY WILL BE REPLACED BY THOSE EVER-WILLING TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, AS A WHOLE, AND NOT JUST THE DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS THAT TRIED TO TAKE OVER THIS COUNTY!
they need to post all the public servents home phone numbers so they can be called anytime the public needs them .
they need to post all the public servants home phone numbers so they can be called anytime the public needs them .
Jeff Hughes does not need to be called.
He is on the developers' speed dial list if something needs to be done.
And if the developers feel that not enough folks were informed, such as with the Comp. Plan, such developers will speed dial Jeff Hughes and make sure he halts any actions not favorable to such developers until Jeff Hughes and his family calls YOU and conducts a phone poll.
It should be a crime for realtor/developer/banker/shysters to take advantage of someone with the mental capacity of Jeff Hughes!!!!!!!!
I'm still waiting for my phone call from Hughes on my feelings toward forming the dcrsd. Maybe I somehow got taken off his list of who to call. For the record commissioner Hughes, I am against it. If you are counting votes that is. Which I think you may not be.
I'm a political hack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night,
I work all day.
I take great pride in selling my soul,
as long as the dcrsd reaches its goal.
A Dave Ensweiler creativity meeting with DCRSD secretary Benning:
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1. Statements like "every single other community in this country, recognizes that it needs a representative government to listen to voters and help us to negotiate where to build low and high density subdivisions". This is what Mr. Groh wrote, too bad he didn't go as far as Whitewater township in Hamilton County, Ohio, who have refused to have zoning in their township. But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county.
2. It also seems to be beyond Mr. Groh's abilty to comprehend that no one commissioner can make any decision that is enforcably under Indiana law. He has specifically written this article to attack Commissioner Hughes. This assertion that Mr. Hughes stopped the Future Land Use Map, all by himself, is both twisted and inacurate.
3. To infer that any county administration before Hughes, Fox and Thompson, all an individual had to do was raise their hand to speak at commissioners meetings show that Mr. Groh didn't go to many or any commissioners meetings before the current administration. In very few situations is the floor opened up to any discussion for any length of time. Granted, this current administration is more resrictive that past administrations, but Mr. Groh was again twisted the facts to infer that discussion has never been limited or disallowed in the past, and that inference is inaccurate and misleading.
Whenever someone is prodded to do a "hatchet job" as it appears Mr. Groh has been, often the desired results of bashing an individual takes precidents over accurate reporting.
Whenever someone is prodded to do a "hatchet job"
Take the "hatchet" from your hand and write something coherent, sans whatever prodding that pushed you to write such babble. Sober up first. We look forward to working with you in the next new and improved political atmosphere. Please speak your mind during the public segment part of our new administration. ALL voices will be heard and considered. If you have any legal questions, please write them down and ask our yet to be appointed county attorney.
But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county.
Too bad...you so want to call him a Buckeye...don't you?
Ewbank and Lehner sitting in a tree, doing their best to screw both you and me...
"He has specifically written this article to attack Commissioner Hughes. This assertion that Mr. Hughes stopped the Future Land Use Map, all by himself, is both twisted and inacurate."
True statement!
He had Rick Fox's help!
Who both were "prodded" by their development masters!
lets see what roads get paved this year and whom lives on these roads whom is building on these roads hmm.
"Hatched job."
And the whining has already started.
Bullies are always so pitiful when there is no one left to put up with their bullying.
Cry us all a river.
lets see what roads get paved this year and whom lives on these roads whom is building on these roads hmm.
Fox Inc.?
too bad he didn't go as far as Whitewater township in Hamilton County, Ohio, who have refused to have zoning in their township.
Is their a strong Maxwell, Bittner, Fehrman and an a sundry shyster like presense currently in Whitewater Township?
Don't worry, once the residents wake up, they will be thrown out of power soon enough.
It also seems to be beyond Mr. Groh's abilty to comprehend that no one commissioner can make any decision that is enforcably under Indiana law.
So, why did you work so hard to defeat Thompson?
Not having "absolute power" leaves you a bit "weak-kneed" does it?
What could you be afraid of?
Something low down and corrupt that might not be met favorably with the voting public?
Granted, this current administration is more resrictive that past administrations
Don't worry, we are about to fix that.
"too bad he didn't go as far as Whitewater township in Hamilton County, Ohio, who have refused to have zoning in their township."
So let us strive for hog farms and rendering plants near any proposed new subdivision?
Who needs zoning!
Is that what you are proposing?
Because I would be the first in line to open up a hog operation adjacent to "Whatever Country Acres" subdivision you would like to build!
You are one fine, self-interested, self-absorbed, idiot!
Funny, our local crooked Republican Leadership will probably not be supporting any Republican nor Democrat in this year's local General Election.
It would appear our pro-development friends have a whole host of "Boogy Men" under their beds!!!
Mike Rozow needs to step up and condemn all those transplant Buckeyes trying to take over HIS county!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike Rozow already forced out that Jim West carpetbagger.
You asked about twisted and misleading statements. The writer pointed them out and now the writer is wrong? It looks like somebody has egg on their face. The opinion page is twisted and misleading. Proven by some of the reactions on this blog.
"Funny, our local crooked Republican Leadership will probably not be supporting any Republican nor Democrat in this year's local General Election."
Except, maybe for Fox, but he is soiled goods...
The writer pointed them out and now the writer is wrong?
He did nothing.
Other than pointing out that some communities are more lax than others when it comes to zoning.
As if that is a good thing.
Zoning is good if it allows unrestrictive development.
Zoning is bad if someone is permitted to place a sign on her property against such unrestrictive development.
When has Jeff Hughes stood up against development interests in favor of the ordinary citizens of this county?
Never!
Zoning is bad if someone is permitted to place a sign on her property against such unrestrictive development.
Exactly! Let us not forget Mr. Maxwell, Mr. Property Rights King, pissing and moaning about Dorothy White's sign protesting his development.
Hypocrite extraordinaire!
But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county.
But it was not a big deal when the republican leadership supported democrat Linkmeyer, who, after his loss, heaved a sigh of relief that he could still continue to "winter" in Florida!
Two faced bastards!
But it was not a big deal when the republican leadership supported democrat Linkmeyer, who, after his loss, heaved a sigh of relief that he could still continue to "winter" in Florida!
Our dishonest realtors and developers are mighty selective, are they not?
But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county.
Can Mr. Groh vote in Dearborn County?
Can Mr. Renihan?
Mr. Rozow?
"Our dishonest realtors and developers are mighty selective, are they not?"
Whatever lines their pockets...
But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county.
If only Mr. Groh was running for office, while out of HIS country, he would not know you were stealing or destroying his campaign signs.
"Too bad...you so want to call him a Buckeye...don't you?"
As a life-long Indiana resident, I must say you nailed what this pig was trying to convey.
Good for you!
"Too bad we can't just get honest people to give us both sides of the issues so we can make up our own minds."
So, tell us the unvarnished truth about Jeff Hughes?
So we can make up our own minds.
"So, tell us the unvarnished truth about Jeff Hughes?"
He WAS the best thing since sliced bread...until John Maxwell and Bob Ewbank decided that Rick Pope's biscuits may be a bit tastier!
Hughes won't give a straight answer to a simple question. Taxpayers don't need a person like this as their repersentative. He's an undecideded "wishy warshy"individual. We need somebody that can think and decide, Hughes is neither.
SORRY TO USE CAPITALS- BUT IT MAKES IT EASIER TO DISTINGUISH MY COMMENTS FROM THE STATEMENT MADE ABOVE AND COPIED BELOW.
1. Statements like "every single other community in this country, recognizes that it needs a representative government to listen to voters and help us to negotiate where to build low and high density subdivisions". This is what Mr. Groh wrote, too bad he didn't go as far as Whitewater township in Hamilton County, Ohio, who have refused to have zoning in their township. But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county. PERHAPS GROH WAS TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY REALIZING THEY NEEDED A REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT- NOT THAT THEY ALL HAVE ONE.
2. It also seems to be beyond Mr. Groh's abilty to comprehend that no one commissioner can make any decision that is enforcably under Indiana law. He has specifically written this article to attack Commissioner Hughes. This assertion that Mr. Hughes stopped the Future Land Use Map, all by himself, is both twisted and inacurate. SO HE HAD SOMEONE WITH HIM- FOX- DOES THAT MAKE IT BETTER?
3. To infer that any county administration before Hughes, Fox and Thompson, all an individual had to do was raise their hand to speak at commissioners meetings show that Mr. Groh didn't go to many or any commissioners meetings before the current administration. In very few situations is the floor opened up to any discussion for any length of time. Granted, this current administration is more resrictive that past administrations, but Mr. Groh was again twisted the facts to infer that discussion has never been limited or disallowed in the past, and that inference is inaccurate and misleading. THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE DEAD WRONG- PEOPLE COULD GO IN- YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO A LOT OF MEETINGS TO SEE IT. AND THE POINT IS IT WASN'T FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME- BECAUSE THE PEOIPLE DIDN'T ABUSE IT. THE ONLY TIME PEOPLE SPOKE AT LENGTH WAS AT ZONING PIBLIC HEARINGS.
Whenever someone is prodded to do a "hatchet job" as it appears Mr. Groh has been, often the desired results of bashing an individual takes precidents over accurate reporting. YOU THINK GROH WAS PRODDED? AND WHY WOULD HE WANT TO DO A HATCHET JOB IF HE HAD TO BE PRODDED TO DO IT?
IT'S MORE FUN TO PLAY- "GUESS WHO WROTE MESSMORE'S LATEST OR ANY OF HUGHES'S EDITORIALS.
"1. Statements like "every single other community in this country, recognizes that it needs a representative government to listen to voters and help us to negotiate where to build low and high density subdivisions". This is what Mr. Groh wrote, too bad he didn't go as far as Whitewater township in Hamilton County, Ohio, who have refused to have zoning in their township. But perhaps Mr. Groh has written them out of our county.
2. It also seems to be beyond Mr. Groh's abilty to comprehend that no one commissioner can make any decision that is enforcably under Indiana law. He has specifically written this article to attack Commissioner Hughes. This assertion that Mr. Hughes stopped the Future Land Use Map, all by himself, is both twisted and inacurate.
3. To infer that any county administration before Hughes, Fox and Thompson, all an individual had to do was raise their hand to speak at commissioners meetings show that Mr. Groh didn't go to many or any commissioners meetings before the current administration. In very few situations is the floor opened up to any discussion for any length of time. Granted, this current administration is more resrictive that past administrations, but Mr. Groh was again twisted the facts to infer that discussion has never been limited or disallowed in the past, and that inference is inaccurate and misleading.
Whenever someone is prodded to do a "hatchet job" as it appears Mr. Groh has been, often the desired results of bashing an individual takes precidents over accurate reporting."
Ho ho ho- but where was Groh wrong about HUGHES himself?
Perhaps Hughes should move to Whitewater Township- it seems more in line with his devil may care attitude toward property rights and zoning.
"This assertion that Mr. Hughes stopped the Future Land Use Map, all by himself, is both twisted and inacurate."
So...what you are saying...is that we better be damn sure to kick both Hughes and Fox out of office?
Has anyone yet receive their Hughes Family Survey by phone asking if we were informed properly about the formation of the DCRSD?
I'm still waiting for the State Police with swat teams to raid the dcrsd and arrest everyone for holding High Ridge Estates hostage!!!
After reading the accurate,insightful Register article about Jeff Hughes, Ewbanks neck veins must be red and engorged with slanderious debris?
We can only hope that Ewbank makes it worse by trying to start some nasty, Clinton-like smear campaign against Groh.
He so polluted his side's back-office bully politics, that is all he has left.
Does Bob Ewbank have any other "untouchable" friends like John Maxwell that do not have to follow the rules, that in some instances, the very same rules Maxwell seeks to impose upon the rest of us?
Has John hooked up to St. Leon's sewers yet?
So...what you are saying...is that we better be damn sure to kick both Hughes and Fox out of office?
How prescient! Because that is just what is going to happen!
Just one new appointment to the DCRSD Board of a member that is not in the pocket of development interests would set in motion tremendous turmoil. Our developers need 100% control or they lose all control of their senses and emotions. May our newly elected officials make the crooks on the DCRSD and their enablers lives miserable.
I HOPE THE VOTERS REMINDER WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS DID TO A GOOD MAN MIKE DAVIS.
"HOPE THE VOTERS REMINDER WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS DID TO A GOOD MAN MIKE DAVIS."
For those with short memories, refresh their memories...including who did what?
Some one bring Rick Nugnet Fox to the meet the candidates meeting.
the same thats going happen to you.
I'm so enjoying the little hwy dept worker threats that seem to get sprinkled in the blog comments. Hon sure fills your heads with ideas doesn't he?
hon is better than you all will every be
or will be thank about it your OUT OF HERE .
thats why the state got you out of there mr hall said so .
thats why the state got you out of there mr hall said so .
Most of the county would not work for the salary the highway workers get paid.
Minimum $13.86/hr + overtime + longevity pay, 8 hour work day with paid 1/2 hr lunch and 2 paid 15 minute breaks, 16 paid holidays, 12 paid sick days, minimum 2 weeks paid vacation and County paid insurance. Hwy workers do us a favor and quit so real hard working people of Dearborn County can have your jobs.
thank about it buddy
Congrats to the commish's for making the highway dept. all one unit and for making the employees be able to do everthing. So many times I have seen waste by these crews because that part of the job is not in my classifcation. If the employees do not want to play by the new rules get out start drawing your unemployment and let somebody else who needs a job and needs to provide for their family have a chance of geeting one of these jobs.
So many times I have seen waste by these crews because that part of the job is not in my classifcation.
Kind of like Bryan Messmore, "I work for the DCEDI and other important Development interests...it is not my job to look out for the common taxpayers of this County..."
I hope Bryan Messmore did some serious social and business networking these past few years, because he is going to need all the "connections" he can muster after he is replaced by the incoming Commissioners!!!
Bryan Messmore?
Will any honest, hard working, regular, non-development-mover and shaker type of citizen even notice he is gone?
"HOPE THE VOTERS REMINDER WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS DID TO A GOOD MAN MIKE DAVIS."
For those with short memories, refresh their memories...including who did what?
Davis resigned instead of becoming Hwy Supt when Listerman was hired. I bet the commissioners wish the rest of you belly aching hwy workers would do the same.
thats what listerman had to do from his last job for the state or be........ deck man
FORCED TO RESIGNED...
ITS CALLED HWY ROBBERY
i see what the highway workers make could we see what messmore makes and listerman makes please ?
Thanks to whoever posted what the hwy makes. They are really sad, pathetic people. People who are wishing that little Tom O will be their savior is their cruel world. Do you realize how many people would have your job? And how many people can spell and use english correctly? (I couldn't resist that, but I am tired of reading their comments here and figuring out what they are trying to say, Hey hwy! Can you say or spell DICTIONARY? No forget it , you would spend all day looking under spell. Do you realize that you workers stab your "buddies" in the back so much, it is like a Freddy versus Jason marathon. What is this attack on Listerman? HE MAKES YOU DO YOUR JOBS. guess what, everyday people go to work and DO THEIR JOBS. Thanks to Listerman and Grieve, hwy is starting to work. NO more sleeping in trucks, hanging out in your "Districts", parking in cornfields, swimmimg in your pools, working at your house, working on your "relationships" while you are at work. Guess what? that is called DO IT ON YOUR OWN TIME AND NOT ON THE TAXPAYERS DOLLAR. I guess you guys have to try and understand that you have to be held accountable. That is what REAL WORKERS are, they are held ACCOUNTABLE. Do you know how you guys look? You actually look shocked! How dare that mean Listerman make us work! We have to start working at 7:30 am, how mean HE IS! We need to hang out and drink our coffee and smoke before we start, we need at least to 9, to wake up. GET A LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NONE! Now in all your wisdom, you are banking on Tom O. A little man who has more baggage than the Cincinnati Airport. Now teamed up with his rag tag hwy workers and Dillsboro loser Hon, you guys want to fire Listerman and go back to your life of leisure of working for the County. GUESS WHAT? HELL NO! Tom has said "4 ten hours day" for the workers, guess what? me and my taxes aint paying you time and a half to come out on Fridays, at 21 bucks an hour! I aint paying for your Districts for your social life, Shut them down and save money on phones and utilities! What do you do Hwy, when Tom is beat? Do you try to suck up to the next person? Guess what, I think you highway workers are done and new people will take your jobs...................until next time .........What does Tom O do? Can they Hwy workers work? What becomes of the hwy couple? Tune in next time for as the highway turns........................
"i see what the highway workers make could we see what messmore makes and listerman makes please ?"
2008 budget indicates Messmore makes $69,010 before benefits and Listerman makes $70,000 with $20,000 of that total coming from state reimbursement.
So Mr Listerman costs the taxpayers
$50,000. I'm pretty happy with the job he been doing, my road is plowed in a timely manner, potholes are patched, etc........
Heck he even gives a report at the commissioners meeting to keep the public informed. If the current commissioners would stop the "special projects" he would get even more done.
As for Messmore, just what's he done for the common man in Dearborn
county. Time to show him the door.
paper engineers what has he done for the tax payers if i spelled it right go back remodel your state office at tax payers money again decks or us whish tv got the news if anybody wants it or indy starr.
if we wasnt doing our jobs why didnt listerman fire us then he wasnt doing his job.
Anonymous said...
paper engineers what has he done for the tax payers if i spelled it right go back remodel your state office at tax payers money again decks or us whish tv got the news if anybody wants it or indy starr.
5:28 PM, April 22, 2008
Anonymous said...
if we wasnt doing our jobs why didnt listerman fire us then he wasnt doing his job.
5:31 PM, April 22, 2008
Please re-read what you write before you post it.
If you cannot understand what you have just written, don't expect the rest of us to have clue what you are talking about.
I have absolutely no idea whatsoever if I support you or If I should oppose you.
Good luck.
With whatever you want.
Bryan "nothing to report" Messmore
$69,000 plus benefits per year and nothing to report?
$1327 per week and nothing to report? $265 per day and nothing to report? $66 per hour (4 hours per day average)and nothing to report?
Did he write his retort to Chris on County time? I just wonder....
vile comment #1. Just wait for #2.
sorry wish tv indy star listerman help the chicken lady out.
Did he write his retort to Chris on County time? I just wonder....
So, are you suggesting that Messmore is just another empty polyester pantsuit with someone else writing his guest columns or editorials?
Do you think, like Benning, he was coerced by our feeble, low class republican leadership, to support Linkmeyer last commissioners' race?
How sad Messmore must be.
To be in the same company of fools as Benning...
Messmore and "County" time!!!
Yuppie Messmore has been led to believe by our "County's" self-loving and delusional development interests, that any time spent thwarting the interests of us common folks, for the benefit of our local, prickly development interests, is on "County" time.
No one has to write Messmore's editorials or guest columns, he is both more intelligent and a much bigger smug ass as compared to Fox and Hughes...
Poor Bryan. He really thought he hitched up his wagon to the "true" movers and shakers of this County.
Hey, Bryan, the voters shout out a big "Hi" and a "good bye!"
"To be in the same company of fools as Benning..."
What small, if not minuscule, sample of this fine County that must be.
hill-rom here i come again back to the RED ZONE
AT 69.000 I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TAX PAYERS.
YES POCKETS GOING TO SAVE THE COUNTY ONLY THING HE CAN DO IS PICK UP TIME SHEET I WAS TOLD NO SHOW ON FRIDAYS TOO. MARTY HELP THE COUNTY
"AT 69.000 I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TAX PAYERS."
Not counting the pillow talk between him and Ewbank...
"...hill-rom here i come again back to the RED ZONE..."
What are you trying to convey?
thank about it icant spell
I thank therefore I am jam?
"I thank therefore I am jam?"
Another literate candidate first in line to do the bidding of Ewbank and Company?
Where will that leave Fox, Hughes and dim bulb Benning?
and dim bulb Benning?
Benning has already been discarded by those who promised to back her to the bitter end.
Vera...meet your political bitter end...
i would like to post on behalf of tom orschell. he does not campaign on county time. he is not trying to fire his boss. he is not mad about anything. he has spent the last 18 months going to every sort of meeting in the county to become very knowledgable of county government and to learn what is important to the citizens of our county. i believe his boss is very angry that tom might have a higher position than him so he is dropping nasty comments anywhere and everywhere he can. he is obviously making someone nervous because his campaign signs have been stolen from route 46 and from sneakville road. stealing signs is very immature by the way!!!! tom is not working for anyone but the citizens of dearborn county he is a very hard working honest person and deserves a little more respect than foolish judgement from those who don't know anything about him. as for the comment about sleeping till 9 i have known tom for almost 15 years and he gets up like clock work at 5am even on the weekends and never stops working. i do not see him take breaks when he is working on anything as i said before he is a very very hard worker. and all of you saying he is complaining because he doesn't want to work on fridays think about this how much gas do you think the county could save using those diesel trucks one less day per week. remember diesel is over $4 a gallon. oh and unlike some of you i am not afraid to put my name to my comment. i will not post as anonymous because i am not trying to hide like the rest of you.
amanda orschell
tom's daughter-in-law
durrrrrrr
think about this how much gas do you think the county could save using those diesel trucks one less day per week. remember diesel is over $4 a gallon.
So, I guess this County would truly prosper if we would rid ourselves of such trucks and drivers all together.
Think about all the money McDonalds would save if they did not have to contend with all those costs of beef for their hamburgers?
The making of hamburgers is such a financial drain to McDonalds.
If McDonalds were only open 4 days a week, at 10 ten hour days, think about just how much money McDonalds would save!
does anybody know were the public can get the phone records see if county using phone for other jobs they have.
Anonymous said...
paper engineers what has he done for the tax payers if i spelled it right go back remodel your state office at tax payers money again decks or us whish tv got the news if anybody wants it or indy starr.
5:28 PM, April 22, 2008
Anonymous said...
if we wasnt doing our jobs why didnt listerman fire us then he wasnt doing his job.
5:31 PM, April 22, 2008
Perhaps Listerman is a good manager and trying FIRST to salvage you and your job. Perhaps he's giving you an chance.
SECOND- did you really read ALL the INDY Star articles? You might be surprised. Don't just parrot the usual gossip- which by the way is OLD "news."
Do you really think 4 days of work is a good idea? 10 hour days for LABORERS is hard work. How much really will get done? Who pays the time and a half for those called in for emergencies on the 5th day?
There is a reason that a laborer is a laborer and a manager is a manager. You each need to do your jobs.
Perhaps it's not a good idea to have county employes running for office while employed. It's definitely not good to have them employed after elected.
Did he write his retort to Chris on County time? I just wonder....
He didn't write it, probably Ewbank's secretary wrote it, she probably does Ewbank's writings too and Kramer's, and and sweet Vera Bening's and Hughes's and Fox's, and Nugent's and Bischoff's.
What's the story on Orschell who seems to want to be a County Commissioner?
He is ticked at his boss Todd Listerman who is probably the best Counry road supervisor we've ever had. So Why?
He is all eager for CHIP AND SEALING ROADS, even gravel roads. What's that all about? You sort of wonder if he has an interest in chip and sealing wouldn't you?
Just wondering out loud that's all.
Let's ask him about all of this during the Meet the candidate night.
sorry i am a ENGINEER GREIVE is road supervisor stupid.
i don't think tom is pissed at listerman i think it is the other way around. as far as the chip and seal goes i think at least tom is working on ideas to protect the investment in our roads vs just letting them detiorate.
Until this County can catch up on its current and back-logged infrastructure needs, we need to tell the handful of greedy development interests in this County who see the taxpayer as a blank check for more development, to go to hell!
Quit picking on Bryan Messmore!
Just last week he learned that those were not frightening disembodied "voices" in his head...but someone had purchased for him and implanted a Blue tooth in his brain!
Chip seal is not intended to be used on gravel. It is to be use to prolong life of structurally sound asphalt pavement. Waste of money on gravel roads. Council and Commissioners know this, that is why Commissioner will not authorize and Council will not fund a chip seal on gravel program. Orshell is just trying to give citizens living on these unpaved roads false hope. Just another Politician trying for a vote any way he can. Google Chip seal and look under Missouri Petroleum and it tells you about proper use of chip seal. www.missouripetroleum.com
i was at the previous meet the candidate and i think toms focus for the chip and seal was on preserving and mainting our paved roads there was just a brief discussion on what might be done for the gravel. but the chip and seal was for preserving our pavement. check your facts listerman i mean anonymous your getting your story mixed up.
i was at the previous meet the candidate and i think toms focus for the chip and seal was on preserving and mainting our paved roads there was just a brief discussion on what might be done for the gravel. but the chip and seal was for preserving our pavement. check your facts listerman i mean anonymous your getting your story mixed up.
sorry about the double post i accidentally hit the button twice.
"Google Chip seal..."
I must have mis-typed...I came up with sites pertaining to Chip Seal's Girls Gone Wild...
I know Listerman and if any citizen had any questions about highways, prioritizations, funding etc., all they need to do is give him a call at the Highway Office, 812-537-8835. That way you can get the correct answer from the horses mouth instead of the half trues posted on the blog.
"from the horses mouth"
Are you making fun of his smile or his breath?
Because Todd seems to have a perfectly reasonable smile and in the county average mean in the breath department!
Listerman and Orshell are both decent individuals, they just view their respective jobs from completely different prisms.
I guess you don't go to Council meetings or read the local paper. Listerman and Commissioner would like to use chip seal as part of a complete maintenance program. The problem is the costs for a pavement maintenance program are more than total funding for the highway department. Highway funding is over 2.5 million dollars short of need. If someone has the magic answer, I think Council and Commissioners would like to know. Is Tom proposing increased taxes or user fees? Article was called "Running on Empty" and published I think last January in the Journal.
Basic Math for Hwy and Tom Orshell and family. Tom wants 4 ten hour days for the hwy to save money. A hwy worker works 5 eight hour days a week. Now Tom says, a 4 ten hour day will save money. For hwy workers who cant do Math, you have to work 40 hours a week.So the only way that I see it, to save on gas, is if you plan on working less. Did you tell the public Tom, that when a holiday falls on a Friday, the workers don't have to work on Thursdays? So now with the 16 holidays a year, how many holidays fall on friday? So now you guys want to work 3 days a week? With all of the work that needs done, how will it get done if no one is working? Add this with a minimum of 2 weeks vacation and again, what work will get done with NO ONE there? I am sure that you can guarentee that Mother Nature will not have any winds or storms on the days you are off. I really dont think the taxpayers want to pay you overtime of 21 + dollars an hour. And until Listerman, Foremens were choosing who to go out on overtime (whether you were "trained" or not. Guess that bit into the Dist 1 FUN!) And for Chip and Seal, did you not read the requirements for that? ONLY for PAVED ROADS. I guess you will have a supplier for that to, at a very good source. I heard that Tom is spreading (Manchester and Bright places) that the highway doesnt work because the Commissioners dont let them. Okay so what is he doing? Crap for hwy , crap for Commissioner. And Tom, I think you still owe people of Dearborn and Hamilton County some kind of apology when you wrecked your AIRPLANE and took out the electric for those hours and hours. Mom really enjoyed being in Krogers went the lights went out. I bet the Fireman and EMTS appreciated it too, I forgot, I pay those taxes for those people. Gee tom, I cant AFFORD you to be Commissioner.
8:30 PM, April 23, 2008
smart women stuck in kroger for hours the door in front it says exit.
Highway funding is over 2.5 million dollars short of need.
I am sure, that Maxwell, Tucker, Bittner, Fehrman and their fellow development stooges would suggest we need more development in this County to make up for the millions of dollars shortfall in the need to maintain and correct our current infrastructure needs!
all they need to do is give him a call at the Highway Office, 812-537-8835.
If I remember right, the hwy once had 4-10 hour day work weeks but it was stopped when it was shown that it was not cost effective. Call Listerman, he probably can explain reasons why. And last time I talked to Listerman his breath was minty fresh.
And last time I talked to Listerman his breath was minty fresh.
I do remember that "Mentos" commericial!!!"
4-10 the state changed to now
NO MORE MESSMORE OR LISTERMAN FOX OR HUGHES tax payers cant pay your ways free will voters speak up your county in need.
4/10 works if the crew is staggered. Some work MTWT, some work TWThF for example. Woirks best with LARGER crews.
Will someone tell me why you are so against Listerman. Personal grudge. County finally hires a professional to do a job which from all I can see by reading the blog minutes, he is doing and all you can do is complain. Maybe because he is not political or one of your buddies. From what I see, he has impossible job. Can not please everyone. I can tell you, I do see the crews on the roads more, which is a big change from the past. If you looked at Governor's proposal to rework county government, he suggested county hire all professionals including Auditor, Treasurer, Assessor, and Recorder. Get politics out of county government. This campaign shows why the Governor requested change.
not against listerman, just against the personal attacks he is putting out on tom orschell and the fact he is stealing or having someone steal political signs right out of peoples yards. if he is such a good person he wouldn't attack another good person and such a great candidate just because they don't share the exact same views. also i don't recall tom saying anything about raising taxes to protect our roads. i do think it would be better as a taxpaying citizen to pay to protect the roads now than to pay alot more completely redoing them down the road. oh and good for tom's daughter-in-law for speaking up for him. he seems to be such a good person that he won't even attack those who are attacking him he seems to be above that. i just hope more people join me and her in speaking up for the best candidate this county has seen in a very long time.
I am always hearing the "he is stealing the political signs out of people's yards". This weak.
Thompson, Scott and Hoog will work well with Listerman.
The only problem with Scott and Thompson is that I hear that they work to closely together. There is no room in this County governement for a romance.
There is no room in this County governement for a romance.
Well then, throw some cold water on Ewbank and Maxwell.
Maybe then they will unhook.
Slander Listerman and now Thompson and Scott. Go crawl back down your hole. The good people of Dearborn County don't need your kind. No wonder county can not attract business and industry. People like you run them away.
Anybody see what the paper is writing on the contested races yet?
The editorial page is heating up again.
Are we going to get some campaign finance info soon? Hughes must have quite a war chest judging from the large mailer (with him in front of a CORN FIELD) a la Nugent style he sent out. Who is paying for this?
Again, no candidate, in Dearborn County history, will have so many signs and yet lose by such a large margin as Jeff Hughes!
We all know who is buying his signs for him!
And we are not in the least bit impressed!
LOL!
Whenever I see a Jeff Hughes' sign or mailer, I think about those who fronted the money for such signs and mailers and believe me, those development entitled pricks have every intention on forcing the rest of us to reimburse their expenses down the road through forced sewer hook ups and the like.
are the county people using computers phones trucks for there own use wheres can we call and get the records please?
"LOL!
Whenever I see a Jeff Hughes' sign or mailer, I think about those who fronted the money for such signs and mailers and believe me, those development entitled pricks have every intention on forcing the rest of us to reimburse their expenses down the road through forced sewer hook ups and the like."
Just like Hrezo, Hughes is using a Cinti developer that is trying to dip into the Dearborn Co. taxpayers dollars to sewer a subdivision "way out" on US#50 near Dillsboro. The developers are getting desperate backing Hughes!
CHRISTINE BRAUER MUELLER the people of dearborn county thanks you for what you say i would vote for you what ever if you run for anything thank you for telling the truth highway worker.
I would vote for CHRISTINE BRAUER MUELLER also.
Keep up the good work!
"Just like Hrezo, Hughes is using a Cinti developer that is trying to dip into the Dearborn Co. taxpayers dollars to sewer a subdivision..."
But, but, but we should not view forced sewer hook ups as a major issue when there are more pressing issue in this county, such as making sure Bob Ewbank remains county attorney and the DCRSD is able to hold on to their last shred of credibility.
and the DCRSD is able to hold on to their last shred of credibility.
Too late...by light years!!!!!!!!!
Fairly soon, this blog will find it unnessary to report on the dcrsd's meetings. As inconsequential as they will soon be. What a sad group of marginal bullies the dcrsd board has proven to be.
Uh Oh!
The honest folks are taking over!
Watch for the DCEDI, the DCRSD, the LMH, St. Leon sewers and the old guard VRUC to make a hasty retreat!!!
Well before all the horrendous specifics came out as to Benning's willingness to sell us down the river for the benefit of a few politically connected development interests, where she lost her political reelection attempt by a landslide...imagine what is going to happen to Hughes and painfully later for Fox, now that even more information has been made public?
Ouch!
force to hook to there sewers force them out of the county .
whats wrong tom is only a truck driver why are you all so scared of him does he have a plan it could help the tax payers of dearborn county not only roads hes is for helping the county but he can see what has been going on dont take 60.000or 70.000 a year job to see that.
listerman now blam the state again for your screw ups.
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but Tom needs to resign from his "day" job if he wins office.
Listerman needs to stop "Blaming, Kapowing and Kersplooshing" in public!!!
Holy illiterates...Batman!!!
are you and your possey parking 10 miles to a gallon trucks too friday to save where and there on tax payers money or what.
No election should be focused so much on INTERNAL highway issues. Arguing over where trucks get parked, how many hours the workers should have per day, and whether or not gravel roads should be chip sealed - seems to be a personal vendetta.
Let's stick to issues the mainstream voters care about.
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