SEWER ISSUES Excerpt from Minutes of December 18, 2007 Dearborn County Commissioners Meeting
This is essentially a transcript of the “tape” of the meeting. Commissioners have not yet approved these minutes. No corrections have been made to any spelling etc in this transcript. Some areas are highlighted for those wishing a “quick read.”
Meeting Date: December 18, 2007
The Dearborn County Board of Commissioners met In the Admin. Bldg., 215•B West High Street, 3rd Floor - Commissioners Room. Lawrenceburg, IN on December 18, 2007 starting at 6:33 pm. Present Jeff Hughes, President, Rick Fox and Ralph Thompson, Commissioners, Bryan Messmore, Administrator, Robert Ewbank, County Attorney and Cary Pickens, Auditor.
Jeff Hughes, President opened the meeting with the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.
7:18:20 pm - Tom Hammond, citizen spoke about the following subjects .
St. Leon sewer
Commissioners letter to DCRSD from the Apr. 17, 2007 meeting
Mr. Hammond explained he represented a coalition of families in the county called CASE. (Citizens Against Sewer Enforcement.) They are a community group willing to dedicate their time & energy necessary to defeat the imposition of forced sewer connections in Dearborn County.
Tom Hammond wanted to talk about the letter from the Commissioners to the sewer district from the April 17th, 2007 meeting.
Bob Ewbank, Co. Atty. stated that the first thing Mr. Hammond would have to fight on the issue was the municipal law - not county law. In terms of the two statutes there, it is where the city runs out a municipal sewer on 300 feet of the property line that also had a jurisdictional limit of ten mile. This was not an issue for the County; it would be an issue for the State legislature if Mr. Hammond wanted it changed.
(At this time, Tom Hammond asked Mr. Ewbank if he could stop him there because he wanted to say something & Mr. Ewbank told him - "No, let me finish. Then Tom Hammond said, "Excuse me, but you stopped me. Rick Fox, Commissioner exp1ained that Bob Ewbank wanted to give the legal side of the issue. Tom Hammond replied that he wanted to stop him before he went any further.)
Tom Hammond said that they were not present discussing that municipal law nor the county law.
Bob Ewbank stated it was prefatory information and if Mr. Hammond would listen - maybe he wou1d get his answer.
Mr. Ewbank said that #2 -the regional district also had a provision for a 300 ft. property line tap in. Along with that it had a unique provision for septic tank soil absorption where there was actually an exemption if they had a new system and a unique provision to spread the expenses over 20 years. Lastly, there is a the county ordinance. It has effectively been repealed by the creation of the regional sewer district. If the regional sewer district had a sewer system out where he lived, he would fall under the provinces of that law. Right now he was Mr. Ewbank explained that right now he was falling under the provinces of municipal law.
Tom Hammond said he appreciated Mr. Ewbank's effort but it did not answer his question. He explained the reason he was speaking before the Board of Commissioners was that the Commissioners made a statement unanimously on Apr. 17, 2007 that they were not in favor of any forced sewer hookups. Tom wondered where the letter was that officially made the statement of how the County Commissioners saw the Issue. The growth in the county has stopped & he thought that it was just one reason for the stoppage because the county had not made the letter official.
Bob Ewbank asked Mr. Hammond if he wanted to change the law.
Tom Hammond answered, no he wanted Mr. Ewbank to take the paper & simply sign it.
Mr. Ewbank could not see what good it would do because, they did not have jurisdiction.
Tom Hammond said it was mentioned at a commission before that a precedent would be set with the issue & he wanted to make sure that the precedent gets set. The statement from the Citizens Against Sewer Enforcement read that they didn't endorse sewer hookups.
Mr. Ewbank stressed that the County Commissioners did not have the jurisdiction to speak about that issue; the Commissioners did not have that power. If he wanted to deal with that issue, he would have to deal with the State legislature.
Tom Hammond asked about the citizens who lived in the county that were under the threat of the sewer hookups. Weren't they entitled to a statement?
(Tom Hammond told Mr. Ewbank he was not talking to him; he was talking to the Commissioners.)
Mr. Ewbank told Mr. Hammond for the second time that he was asking the Commissioners to do something that they did not have the jurisdiction to do.
Mr. Hammond told the Commissioners that the people would like to see them make a statement of what they stood for and what they represent.
Rick Fox said that Tom Hammond was making it sound like the County Commissioners could fix the issue for him. Mr, Ewbank is talking from the legal side of the issue.
Mr. Hammond said that the board was leaning on Mr. Ewbank & his law firm and he supercedes them.
RickFox added that Mr. Ewbank was there to tell the board what they should know or what they don't .
Tom Hammond said this was not a court of law. He was simply asking for their endorsement.
Mr. Ewbank emphasized that he was asking for a legal opinion that was outside his jurisdiction.
Tom Hammond said he came to simply asked the Commissioners about the letter and
Mr. Ewbank (the Co. Atty) juggernauted into the legal issues.
Mr. Ewbank stated that they do not juggernaut into legal issues. They are a government of laws. The County Commissioners cannot change it. Mr. Ewbank commented that if the Commissioners could change it, they would probab1y change it.
Tom Hammond said since it was a public hearing maybe it was time for the Commissioners to come forward with their position on the issue.
Mr. Ewbank explained that the Board of Commissioners could give their individual opinions but collectively as Commissioners they cannot change the State law.
Rick Fox thought they had given their individual opinions and he did not believe in forced hookups.
Jeff Hughes, President said he liked the county ordinance whereas the people did not have to hook on if they had a functioning system. President Hughes added that he could not change State law.
Rick Fox stressed that there were minutes of all the public meetings for the record.
Mr. Ewbank reiterated for the third time that Tom Hammond was asking for a legal opinion from the Commissioners as a body for something that is outside their realm. There is no problem with the Commissioners giving their individual opinions on the issue. The law they are dealing with is a state law and if Mr. Hammond wants that law changed he must go to the State legislature & get it changed. Mr. Ewbank said the first thing he would change would be the 300 foot requirement.
Tom Hammond said they were working as a group & 2008 would mark their third year on their resistance. The resistance was creating a lot of the non growth.
Mr. Ewbank did not think that anyone disagreed with Mr. Hammond's position. The problem was he had a State law that was a municipal one - not a county one. The Board of Commissioners cannot change the State law.
Tom Hammond said simply that their problem would become the county's problem.
It has been three years their group has been together & three years that St. Leon had not received from 118 Individuals ($4,000 hookup) they could have had in their coffers. They could have had three years of user fees. With issues like that &. the county is saying they cannot do something & their group is still together, they will then get regional coverage, television and newspapers.
Rick Fox adamantly said that the board could not fix his problem.
Bob Ewbank gave an example of how the problem could be fixed. He mentioned the High Ridge Estates. The former Board of Commissioners & the Commissioners serving today are still in support of rescuing the subdivision called High Ridge. The people living there were threatened into leaving their homes because of the sewers. The County Sewer District was formed; they called it string-beans geographically. Mr. Ewbank stated he thought the sewer district needed to be extended because of health problems - where the septic systems there do not work. For those individuals that would fall under the statutes of the county ordinance they would get relief for the very same that Tom Hammond is requesting. The down side is the State legislature has passed a law that if they extend their sewer work where they are allowed to go out ten miles & have forced hookups. The State gave the county the power to do the sewer district to fray the expenses & to go to a procedure. Mr. Ewbank stated again that the Commissioners were not against Mr. Hammond nor was the County Attorney. The County Atty. even sympathized with his situation but he in turn was asking the board to do something that they have no control over. If there was a county sewer district where Mr. Hammond lives he would full under the provinces of the county ordinance; he would not fall under St Leon's ordinance.
Mr. Ewbank understood his other issue too. Since Mr. Hammond did not live in St. Leon why should he have to fall under their guidance? However,the State legislature created the law that wanted to extend their ordinances to have an economy of scale to have the people to tap into.
Mr. Hammond said the eyes of the world will come down on the county.
Bob Ewbank said that each of them will come to his court hearing & testify that they think it is a bad law and then they will say to him that the problem is that it is a law that legislates the change - not the Commissioners. He further explained that the judge will not sit and listen to the non relevant evidence; he will listen to the material evidence & focus on the issue, The issue being: Should those people who are within a 10 mile radius of that municipality have to force intothe system.
Tom Hammond brought up House Bill 1671. Their group has been working the ordinance issue and the law issue. As everyone knows, that many laws until they are challenged the people don't know whether they are good laws or not. House Bill 1671 is in the legislature & states that regional water, sewage and solid wastes districts prohibits regional sewage districts from requiring the owner of a property to connect to the district sewage system if the property is already connected to a sewer system approved by the state.
Mr. Ewbank suggested the following to Mr. Hammond:
Since he lived 10 miles within St. Leon, he needed to get that law changed on the 10 mile limitation.
Forced hookups - If Mr. Ewbank was in charge, he would not require the forced hookups. He thought it was a bad law.
The bottom line on the legal issue was - where was that letter.
Lastly, Mr. Ewbank said he was the attorney for the county that expressed the opinion on good legal grounds that the Dearborn County Commissioners can do nothing about that law. If Mr. Hammond wanted the County Commissioners to testify, they would testify. If he wanted the Commissioners individual opinions against forced hookups. the Commissioners are against forced hookups.
Jeff Hughes, President said when the regional sewer district was formed the Commissioners did not have the authority but the Commissioners did give the authority about everything that wasn't already under new municipal jurisdiction. If they want to increase the ten mile capacity from St. Leon, they have already been awarded that certain area. The regional district would have to work with that situation.
Conflict of Interest - Mr. Hammond stated his second issue was a conflict of interest issue surrounding the County Regional Sewer District. A big developer sits on the, sewer board and when he was appointed ....
Mr. Ewbank said that he was attacking the developer's character. If the Commissioners didn't want the developer on the sewer district. they can remove him.
Mr. Hammond attended a county council meeting recently & the developer was lobbying for expansion money and the developer has a business that would be a direct recipient of where the infrastructure went. It seemed like a conflict.
Jeff Hughes explained thet he would listen to his comments but the meetings should stay in the boundaries where business is conducted
Mr. Hammond said the board had the power that they could at least look into - what about the power of an individual sitting on the regional sewer district and he is not hooked up to sewers .
Mr. Ewbank stressed to Mr. Hammond that if he felt that a developer had done something wrong and engaged in some moral turpitude, then he must go to the Prosecutor. The county attorney did not think he had any grounds to go to the Prosecutor. In fact, he thought that Mr. Hammond was slandering the developer which was unfair. Mr. Ewbank added that Mr. Hammond had gone way beyond coming before the Commissioners to speak. If he came to the meeting to complain, then he should complain. But he should not go about attacking things that had nothing to do with the issue he presented.
Tom Hammond said he was complaining & asking the Commissioners to take notice. (He did net think he was slanderous.)
Mr. Ewbank asked Mr. Hammond to state specifically what the developer's moral turpitude was. What did the developer do that would be criminal in nature where it was a conflict of interest.
Mr. Hammond stated that the developer asked for County Council to present a favorable letter for 2.3 million dollars for the expansion of the St. Leon Sewer District.
Mr. Ewbank said that may have been the case but that was not moral turpitude. The developer was benefiting a lot of citizens up in that area with the people in the High Ridge Estates that needed sewers.
Mr. Hammond said that was the next conflict because the developer sits on the sewer board and the developer wasn't connected. In other areas of the county if someone wanted to get on the Advisory Board, they won't be able to because they aren't connected.
Mr. Ewbank said again Mr. Hammond was just - politicking. He was attacking an individual citizen.
Tom Hammond said he was saying the exact same thing that other citizens that have appeared before the board when they asked for the board's help.
Mr. Ewbank stated he did not. like the way Mr. Hammond was slandering people.
Mr. Hammond replied that he was not slandering anybody.
(At this time, Jeff Hughes told everyone to settle down and called the meeting back to order.)
Jeff Hughes, President said that Tom Hammond had a couple of questions.
1. The first was addressed because he was asking about the letter and the Co. Atty. told him that the board could give their individual opinions or go to court. All of the members on the Board of Commissioners have stated they do not agree with the forced sewer hookups. If the citizen has a functioning system that was not causing a health issue, then Mr. Hughes was in agreement.
2. Why did the municipalities have the right to go outside their incorporation? Mr, Hughes could not tell him why the State allowed that because he was not a State legislator. Did he think it was right? The Dearborn County Regional Sewer District now works with those (in other words anything they are not certified to have by the state then they have to go thru the county because of the regional county sewer district).
President Hughes did think that the High Ridge Estates was a problem.
Tom Hammond explained that one of the reasons he came before the board was to say that something just did not pass the smell test.
Conflict or Interest: Tom wanted to know why in one sewer district could people sit on a sewer board & be appointed & not be connected to the sewer board. Yet ten miles away when it might be convenient for a citizens to help solve some of their problems & some of the issues- that individual cannot sit on that sewer board. This is no only the same state but it is the same county, There is a conflict.
Mr. Hammond stressed they were no going away because they cannot go away. They have got a hook inside of them that is called a legal lawsuit; they cannot get away from it The only other thing their group could do is set there & take it or become a coalition of concerned citizens & bring attention the issue. It soils the reputation of Dearborn County & any companies wanting to come in &. settle here.
(At this time, Tom Hammond told Mr. Ewbank to keep in mind that there was freedom of speech.
Mr Bob Ewbank gave Tom Hammond a warning to be careful on what he said because anything he said could be held against him.)
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1 – 200 of 478 Newer› Newest»Ewbank, Fox and Hughes brought the crooked dcrsd into existence using the ruse of fixing High Ridge Estates.
With little or no input from the public.
Put together by development interests for development interests.
They had a chance to excercise their influence by not re-appointing Ensweiler and Pruss.
They re-appointed Ensweiler and Pruss.
Has Ewbank, Fox or Hughes publicly put any pressure on the dcrsd to fix High Ridge and to stop all the attempts of its board members to line their own pockets?
No.
Only one republican candidate ran against these forced hookups.
Ralph Thompson.
What did Ewbank, Fox and Hughes do?
They supported the development democrat.
The dcrsd board has proven incapable of fixing High Ridge.
They have proven the ability to spend a lot of our money and time in the pursuit of their own personal projects.
Ewbank, Fox and Hughes are complicit in this mess.
The future cost of these sewers that do not flush when the power fails have not even begun to be discussed.
The public health aspects of entire regions on such sewers that do not work when the power fails is absolutely mind boggling.
Throw Ewbank, Fox and Hughes out of office.
Bob and the twins will continue to trip over each other giving aid and comfort to crooked developers as they force the rest of us to subsidize their development. They tried to tell us this was all about the public health. How many millions of gallons of raw sewage has High Ridge dumped into Hogan's creek since the formation of the DCRSD? The DCRSD has become a rogue board, only pursuing the interests of its board members.
Yeah, Rick and Jeff reappoint Ensweiler after he has an emotional melt down in front of the county council when they would not give him money for Maxwell's development in St. Leon.
Because, God forbid, the county council wanted the dcrsd refocus back to why the dcrsd was formed, fixing High Ridge Estates.
Rick and Jeff are Maxwell's lackeys.
Nothing more.
High Ridge's sewage is still slipping and sliding down the hill to Hogans.
Maxwell is still not hooked onto the sewer running past his front door.
The DCRSD is still trying to get millions of our tax dollars, earmarked for development, not fixing High Ridge.
First, our septic systems were in such disrepair that the DCRSD had to force us on their sewers.
Now, apparently, our septic systems are ok, they just want us to pay availability fees (no need to hook on) so we still pay our fair shair of a few crooked developments' sewers.
Ewbank, is as transparent as they come.
Rush the dcrsd into existence!
Abet its existence at every available opportunity!
Then maintain you are on RECORD being in opposition to FORCED hookups!
Please!
At least they could put some effort and energy into their lies!
Ewbank will declare war on Ripley County. Suspend elections until all hostilities cease. And pray that the voters forget about all the lies that created and are sustaining the DCRSD.
That is Rick and Jeff's only hope to stay in office.
Thompson was the only commissioner to show up to support those St. Leon residents against forced hookups and lawsuits at the Lawrenceburg council meeting.
The primary voters will know who walks the walk and talks the talk and they will not be pulling any levers for Maxwell's enablers!
Not that Ewbank and Morris give a rat's ass about the republican primary voter.
And we will make sure to remind the republican primary voters of the republican party leadership's contempt of the rank and file primary voter.
I think Mr Ewbank is correct that the commissionsers have a moral problem with one or two of the dcrsd's BOD members. It's not a legal issue therefore the issue need not be addressed by Mr Ewbank; it needs to be addressed promply by the Dearborn County commissioners.
turpitude \TUR-puh-tood; -tyood\, noun:
1. Inherent baseness or vileness of principle, words, or actions; depravity.
2. A base act.
In the eyes of the far left, it [the 60s] is the era when revolution was at hand, only to be betrayed by the feebleness of the faithful and the trickery of the enemy; to the radical right, an era of subversion and moral turpitude.
-- Arthur Marwick, The Sixties: Cultural Revolution in Britain, France, Italy, and the United States, c.1958-c.1974
They based their action on a clause in the uniform player contract which says players must "conform to standards of good citizenship and good moral character" and disallows "engaging in acts of moral turpitude."
-- Ira Berkow, "Go Ahead, Choke the Boss -- Only in the N.B.A.", New York Times, March 5, 1998
They were not his misdeeds, his turpitudes; she accused him of nothing--that is, of but one thing, which was not a crime.
-- Henry James, The Portrait of a Lady
Mr. Ewbank stated he did not like the way Mr. Hammond was slandering people.
Was Bo Bo Bob humming Tammy Wynett's song, "STAND BY YOUR MAN" as he pandered to and protected his sugar daddy's questionable honor?
"...it needs to be addressed promply by the Dearborn County commissioners."
Won't happen!
Two of the commissioners' have their "stones" locked away in Maxwell and Ewbank's lock box!
Expect a ghost written editoral signed by rick and jeff a week before the primary coming out against the forced hookups promoted by the dcrsd and St. Leon.
And you will not see the first hint of a blush in their cheeks of shame.
That is how in the tank these two cronies are for Maxwell and company!
Bob "Stand by your Man" Ewbank.
I like that.
How would some Maxwell brown noser respond to a legitimate question concerning the public health crisis that would occur if entire regions of this county were on sewers that do not work during similar power outages?
Storms sounded worse than they were
BY JENNIFER BAKER
High winds overnight toppled several trees and power lines overnight, knocking out power to thousands, but no major damage or injuries were reported, according to emergency communication dispatchers across Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky.
A wind advisory was in effect this morning but was cancelled by 6 a.m. because the winds are decreasing, said meteorologist Scott Hickman with the National Weather Service in Wilmington.
Winds currently are blowing at about 15 to 25 miles per hour.
Would they label the question:
ARGUMENTATIVE?
SLANDER?
POLITIKING?
AD HOMINEM?
ALL THE ABOVE?
Bob and the twins as well as the DCRSD board run from questions concerning toilets that will not flush during major power outages!!!
Such talk is not good for business for a few of our more corrupt development interests in this county relying on pressurized sewers to get them out of the red!!!
Was that high wind last evening the product of the Bogey Man?
Don't think so.
So, why does the dcrsd not discuss, publicly, what their contingency plan is for such wide spread power outages?
Are they afraid to let the cat out of the bag that their sewers are going to get even more expensive for those they force onto them?
Hurry...hurry...rush...rush...hush...hush...force these piece sh#t sewers on the public before all facts come to light...
Maybe Liz could use her INK to get some answers concerning wide spread power outages and the potential for major public health issues of those on pressurized sewers?
What do you say, Liz?
Entire regions of people, traveling in their cars, on our county roads, during ferocious storms, to get somewhere, anywhere, where toilets still flush!
What a mess this will be!
Not counting the mess of those who remain behind and simply use their backyards for their emergency toilets!
What is the DCRSD’s contingency plan?
A simple question!
Rick and Jeff, how about efforting an answer for such a question?
How about getting Doug Baer on your agenda to answer this question?
How about getting Doug Baer on your agenda to answer this question?
How about watching Bob "Stand by your man" Ewbank pull out all the stops to prevent Doug Baer from answering such a question?
Maybe we need to better vet the business interests of our taxpayer paid for attorneys?
Just to protect the county's interests from the problems associated with the mere appearances of impropriety.
Looking around this County, there are a percentage of people who are either not well informed or are just borderline idiots.
What will keep these folks from flushing toilets, running water, etc, down their drains during power outages?
The idiot factor alone is a public health question concerning these types of sewers.
Ewbank, Fox and Jeff's position is so weak, they cannot contend with just one voice that is not in lock step with Maxwell and friends.
That is why the supported the developer democrat last year over the republican rank and file's choice.
How will Ewbank and Morris try to thwart the will of the primary voter this year?
This year, I don't think they have a chance!
But they will still precede with such underhanded tactics if for no other reason than to win brownie points with Mr. Maxwell!
Maybe we need fewer folks in county government pissing themselves to please Maxwell...
How Jeff's phone calls going?
How Jeff's phone calls going?
Exactly the way his development masters tell him they are going.
Maybe we need to better vet the business interests of our taxpayer paid for attorneys?
Bob will bully every republican office holder he knows to vote for a democrat development shill, before he lets you vet him!!!!!!!!!!
Notice how Mayor Cunningham wanted all interests to be heard and factored into St. Leon's request.
Compare that to our two Commissioners and their consiglieri.
They go out of their way to give a few development interests sway over this entire County.
SAME OL, SAME OL, COULDN'T THIS BE FIXED OVER FRUIT CAKE AND COFFEE?
(ONLY THE SELECT FEW WILL GET THAT)
Bob "Stand by your Man" Ewbank is becoming more polarizing than Hillary!
He is doing more harm than good for those development interests he trumpets!
Hell, Ewbank last year worked harder than Hillary did to get Baron Hill elected to office.
"(ONLY THE SELECT FEW WILL GET THAT)"
Care to share with all of us this "inside" joke?
Hell, Ewbank last year worked harder than Hillary did to get Baron Hill elected to office.
That Bob, when it comes to delivering votes for Mr. Maxwell, sure can energize those Linkmeyer democrats to get out and vote democrat!!!
Thank the good Lord that Johnny Nugent did not buckle to Bob's pressure to support a Democrat over a Republican.
Maybe Liz could interview Sen. Nugent for her paper and ask Sen. Nugent how tough it was for him to go against Ewbank and support Ralph Thompson?
Maybe a follow up interview with Rick and Jeff as to why they caved to Ewbank and basically told the republican primary voters to go to hell?
Maybe Liz could use journalism skills to find out who was behind putting that "vote for these folks flyer" together with republicans and Linkmeyer, with no mention of the republican Thompson?
Oh, wouldn't that be great?
Go Liz!
Give them manipulative republican traitors the what-for!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Ewbank is against forced hookups and he will use all his power and connections to fight to the death to defeat anyone running for office who is also against forced hookups!!!
Bi-polar or just a liar???
This guy is such an embarrassment!!!
Yeah, Rick, Jeff and Bob are against forced hook-ups. But they must do what their sole constituent wants, Mr. Maxwell. Every time the Hughes family phone surveys Rick, Jeff and Bob's sole constituent, they come back with overwhelming data that their sole constituent want's forced hook-ups. Rick, Jeff and Bob are just tryng to be fair to their sole constituent.
Wow, can you imagine if the rest of us had representives in local government like Mr. Maxwell has?
Maybe, someday, when Mr. Maxwell no longer has any use for his representatives in local government, he could pass them on to the rest of us?
Either way, do you think Mr. Maxwell would permit my family to use his bathroom when our power goes out?
My representatives in local government want to shut down my septic system and place me on a sewer that won't flush during power outages.
Further, could I occasionally use his free public defenders, Mr. Watson, Mr. Ewbank, or even that little spitfire, Ms. Lehner?
Thank you and have a wonderful evening.
The "do-everythings" and "pro-everythings" would not be losing power had they not based THEIR growth on pilfering OUR savings.
Running on a platform that those who do not want to get loans to support the likes of Maxwell are "do-nothings" and "anti-everythings," was simply political suicide.
By falling all over each other to give the likes of Maxwell what he wants, when he wants it, a few bought and paid for politicians have placed the likes of Maxwell's progress back decades.
"...have placed the likes of Maxwell's progress back decades."
Yep.
The County Council has had enough.
Lawrenceburg Council isn't willing to throw money their way.
The Health Department's loyality shifts with the political wind.
And the Commissioners are just one vote away from shutting this nonsense down.
Heavy and ham-fisted political bullying is beginning to reap what it has sowed.
We need one candidate this year to relentlessly hammer just one of the crooked Commissioners seeking re-election.
Put all our resources in one candidate, not two, unless the second candidate is incredibly strong and can stand on his/her own.
Hammer that one Commissioner, with his RECORD and we will win.
Then the people will have the Commissioners' office back, to begin once again to look out for the interests of all the people and not just Ewbank and friends.
Whenever Bob wants to punish the twins, he pours Clorox into the urinals and hides in a stall, waiting for either of the two to relieve themselves.
He learned such tactic from his years of bug collecting.
It takes all of his will and restraint to keep from piercing a pin through the twins’ thoraxes onto a styrofoam board and labeling them with their scientific names.
I see the crazys have been hard at work.
Ralph, as commissioner do your job as a COUNTY commissioner.
Do not get hungup on the sewer issue. It is only one issue confronting this county.
"Bi-polar or just a liar???"
Whatever Bob and Jeff and Rick are, there will always be those of us willing to assay each and every word that spews forth from Bob and Jeff and Rick’s oral cavities!
Words are a commodity.
Let Bob and Jeff and Rick keep enriching their opposition with their word produce.
Do not get hungup on the sewer issue.
Ralph can multi-task!
He can look after all the other needs of this County and still skewer our local sewer scammers and thieves!
Unlike the Maxwell mono-taskers and butt sniffers in local government!
"Ralph, as commissioner do your job as a COUNTY commissioner."
Get on Maxwell's payroll!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ralph, sell your soul to development interests.
It worked for Vera Benning.
Look where she is today?
Commissioner Thompson, don't worry about the sewer issue, Mr. Maxwell is against forced hookups also...
Save us from Ralph...we all want to be forced off our functional septic systems and onto sewers that do not work during power outages!!!!!!
Keep Bob Ewbanks as County Attorney!!!!!!
Poor Mr. Thompson, his honesty leaves him the fifth wheel on the the Maxwell and Ewbank four wheel dishonest manure cart...
Manure cart?
Didn't Ewbank toss Benning off one of those?
What is she fertilizing as of late?
"What is she fertilizing as of late?"
Benning may be the fertilizer spreading agent, but still, the taxpayers are still paying for the spreader.
Can't she fertilize somewhere in the private sector?
As far as the taxpayers are concerned, her fertilizer is being spread a little thick, intra-governmentally.
I see the crazys have been hard at work.
I guess Elliot Ness was also a "crazy" in your book?
I guess Mr. Capone was also an agent of growth and facilitator of broadening the tax base in your book?
Raise your hands if you have witnessed Commissioner Thompson neglecting any other issues in this County.
No hands raised.
Development shill poster has been seconded as being full of High Ridge overflow.
Vote against those like Thompson who think anyone other than development interests in this County deserve a voice.
Then do your part for the development cause...hire Vera as your cleaning lady.
Please futher provide Rick and Jeff with a duster and toilet brush.
Maxwell and Ewbank have extremely short memories when it comes to their brown noser's loyalities.
Ralph, as commissioner do your job as a COUNTY commissioner.
You do not have much hope in paying your bills and providing for your family unless you are begging for the few crumbs left for you by Bob Ewbank and John Maxwell...right?
Get a second job.
Regain your dignity.
"I see the crazys have been hard at work.
Ralph, as commissioner do your job as a COUNTY commissioner.
Do not get hungup on the sewer issue. It is only one issue confronting this county."
Make sure you copy this and forward it to Mr. Maxwell.
He likes it when his puppies pee in delight in his presence.
Do your job, Ralph!
Replace your knees with rubber!
And your spine with linguini!
Better fit the Maxwell/Ewbank paradigm of political fortitude!
Wow, you really had nothing else to do this evening, did you?
"Wow, you really had nothing else to do this evening, did you?
We all can't be "doing" John Maxwell.
By the way, unlike the rest of us, who have nothing better to do, are you posting from some happening county party that we were not invited to?
And the little elves of development piddle with their posts!
Don't pick on the Maxwell shills...they have nothing to fall back upon.
Wow, you really had nothing else to do this evening, did you?
Pray tell, are you against forced hook-ups also?
Who tied your hands little lassie?
"Who tied your hands little lassie?"
So, you think it is Brett Fehrman posting this nonsense?
LOL
Nature has its own way of cleansing its mutant mistakes…
Look for a virulent and potent communicable disease to sideline the Dearborn County Republican Party Leadership this election cycle…
Wow, you really had nothing else to do this evening, did you?
Go to bed little girl, you need your beauty sleep.
Go to bed little girl, you need your beauty sleep.
Beauty sleep?
For these development crooks, bullies and shysters?
Not with a life time of leap years and Nyquil.
Stealing, cheating and deviousness pervades, permeates and damns the ugly and obnoxious soul.
"Wow, you really had nothing else to do this evening, did you?"
Continue to flash your meaty middle finger to a den of hungry lions, dumb-ass!
It is amazing you have survived this long!
Your corruption will not shield you much longer!
Vote the Maxwell/Ewbank ticket!
The aquatic life in and the terrestrial life around Hogan's Creek are just getting in the way of development anyway...
Will someone catolog if any homes in High Ridge Estates have been listed by Fehrman realty or had title work done by Ewbank or Lehner land title companies?
Just for shits and giggles!
Good morning everyone!
In the news today, High Ridge Estates continues to dump raw sewage into Hogan's creek!
In other news, the DCRSD Board reports that they are still doing their level best to line their own pockets!
So we know what's WRONG with the system- now can anyone tell us a detailed plan on how to FIX it?
Elections will begin to fix things.
The voters slept because they thought that their politicians shared their ethics and morals.
They are waking up to the fact that they were played by con artists.
And thanks to the arrogance of development crooks in office, the voters are really getting motivated to throw these crooks out.
First we need to reestablish the true definition of "growth."
Putting a gun to your neighbor’s head and demanding they subsidize your profits is not “growth.”
It is larceny.
Preceeding the election, follow the realtor/developer/lawyer money and vote for the candidate that's not accepting it. I'm sure this blog will keep us informed who is paying for whom to be elected as soon as it is available.
Stay tuned!
Watch for the candidate nights and debates.
Will Bob Ewbank stand in for Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes because of sickness or family emergencies?
Watch for an editorial from the county attorney explaining that Jeff and Rick are against forced hookups but their hands are legally tied...
...without mentioning that the county attorney helped tie their hands and such binding of hands Jeff and Rick accepted enthusiastically as they rushed the formation of the DCRSD through with little or no public input or public knowledge.
Putting a gun to your neighbor’s head and demanding they subsidize your profits is not “growth.”
That is one thing you have to give John Maxwell some credit.
He is not letting those sewer scammers and crooks up in St. Leon put a gun to his head and demand he subsidize their development by hooking onto their crappy sewers!!!
Expect John Maxwell to chip in big dollars to those being harrassed with a lawsuit by St. Leon's attorney to hook on to St. Leon's sewers...
...give them hell, John.
John Maxwell has given us all hope.
His actions have given us strength to fight on against the crooked developers in St. Leon forcing hook-ups to subsidize these crooked developers crooked development.
Thank you, John Maxwell.
Bob Ewbank really likes John Maxwell. Maybe he will defend John for free against St. Leon trying force him onto sewers to subsidize a few crooked developers and land title attorneys, sewers that do not work when the power goes out.
Is the Bright Beacon circulated in St. Leon?
If so, I think Liz Morris would be more than happy helping Bob and John fight the corrupt St. Leon sewer machine!
Will future events make John and Bob and Liz the heros of the dishonest developer attacked and assaulted little guy?
Stay tuned...
Mr. Bob Ewbank gave Tom Hammond a warning to be careful on what he said because anything he said could be held against him.)
Mr. Bob Ewbank further went on to say, relative to anything Mr. Maxwell should or would possibly say, that he, Mr. Bob Ewbank, will see to it that such words, leaving the pristine lips of Mr. Maxwell, will go on to exalt and laud the interests of Mr. Maxwell!!
MOLON LABE!
We are waiting for our corrupt republican party leadership!
Close to the May primary, will Bob push the twins to promote their support agaist forced hookups as he shuffles through his pack of all his useful political lies like a card shark?
Be thankful for the "friends" your political opponents choose...
Vote for Fox and Hughes!
Maxwell's financial well-being depends on unbridled access to your savings via forced hook-ups!
Pressurized sewers and forced hookups:
JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT OUR POLITICIANS COULD NOT GET ANY MORE CORRUPT!
Buy this week's Register, read Erika Schmidt Russel's column!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I truly believe the era of our development bought and paid for politicians and their enablers is finally on the wane!!!!!!!!!!!!
Expect a lot of development dirty tricks during this year's elections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did Watson even entertain the idea of "mutual agreement" suggested by the Mayor?
Or is he firmly in the corner or pocket, of giving all the power and decision making to a few corrupt developers in St. Leon?
Other than a few greedy and ethically challenged developers, businessmen and politicians, is anyone for forced hookups on these problem wrought pressurized sewers?
Yahoo!
Honest folks are finally paying attention to the dishonest goings ons in this county!
It is going to be very, very, very tough on at least two development shill politicians this year!
Lay down with dishonest mangy-ass dogs...wake up with rat sized shyster like fleas!
Are you bullies happy now?
As High Ridge continues to dump raw sewage into Hogan's Creek...
Dennerlines' pond is filling up nicely.
I'm glad we could help him with reducing the costs of new sewers for his trailer park.
Hopefully, Ewbank wil have some use for Fox and Hughes after they lose their seats. I would hate to see them cast aside like two out of favor trained monkeys. They worked so hard for Bob. Sadly, for Bob that is, their replacements will be working hard for the rest of us in the county.
Solutions anyone?
Solutions?
Fire the crooks.
Put honest men and women in office.
Work within the restraints of existing infrastructure and work out from such infrastructure.
Get a few dishonest realtors/developers/bankers/shysters minds right...wake them up to the fact that our tax dollars and savings are not their petty cash funds.
Let us start from there.
What solutions are we being offered now other than the threat of law suit if we do not subsidize the development of a handful of politically connected thugs?
The dcrsd was supposed to be the "solution" to stem the flow of raw sewage into our waterways coming from High Ridge Estates.
How is that "solution" going?
One solution would be to depend on market forces and the law of supply and demand for growth and development, without using the force of law to coerce the rest of us to subsidize the market of a very few movers and shakers in this county.
Solutions anyone?
6:56 PM, January 10, 2008
Keep Jeff and Rick and you will see problem after problem arise in this county. Solution? Ask these guys to resign and make a living without tax payer expense involved.
Ask these guys to resign and make a living without tax payer expense involved.
Maybe Vera could get the same message?
I'm tired of listing her lazy patronage rump as a dependent on my taxes!
One solution: Public office holders who do not focus entirely on the selfish interests of Maxwell/Ewbank and Company.
Another solution, get rid of the old guard land title attorneys with their vice like grip on our political offices.
One solution:
That Thompson should begin every sentence with:
"MYSELF, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ARE AGAINST FORCED HOOK UPS..."
Up and until the General election.
LOL!!!
That would frost Bob's balls!!!
I think by asking for a solution, it meant a solution to the horrible sewer crisis. Voting new officials won't fix what's in place now.
IMHO, may have misunderstood.
"MYSELF, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ARE AGAINST FORCED HOOK UPS..."
Especially before each request by Watson or the DCRSD for more of our tax dollars since they rely almost solely on forced hook-ups to finance their sewer scams.
I think by asking for a solution, it meant a solution to the horrible sewer crisis.
What sewer crisis?
High Ridge sewers could have been fixed a long time ago by contracting with Dillsboro, but the dcrsd board is holding it hostage until we sewer a board member's subdivision.
The sewer crisis at HVL is finally being focused upon after development interests have lost their attempt to take over the VRUC.
The only thing perpetuating our sewer crisis in this county are a handful of dishonest developers and politicians...
...where elections will go a long way to fix such a problem!
St. Leon's sewer crisis has to be dismantled piecemeal.
Thanks again, to a handful of greedy development interests.
Bastards.
A state senator or representative could have gone a long way in using their “political clout” to stop this forced sewer nonsense, but apparently they were more preoccupied with being side-line spectators watching as our property taxes now bankrupt us!
That's correct. VRUC is starting a pollution reduction program. The people of HVL have elected representatives on the board that are mking pollution reduction a priority! It's a progress in the works!
7:54 - you didn't mention St. Leon's troubles, do pressurized sewers dependent on electricity magically pop out of the ground after an election?
You must not read this blog much, you can't go 3 posts without hearing about, whether it's on topic or not.
Someone already said, St. Leon's problems have to be taken care piecemeal.
But one thing we should not do is put any more money into St. Leon or force any more people on their substandard sewers.
But, of course, the dishonest among us want to continue to rush ahead with development before we have time to fix past problems.
Now Watson is begging for more dollars because they St. Leon is reaching its capacity limits.
Forcing all those people onto sewers they did not need ate up his capacity.
But of course St. Leon need the forced hook ups to finance Maxwell and Company's sewers in the first place.
The more honest folks take over our county public offices, the sooner we can begin to defund this madness out of existence.
Whatever St. Leon's problems are today, we need to make sure Ewbank and the twins don't continue to try to put the rest of the County in the same predicament.
Elections of good, decent caring people will do that.
You must not read this blog much, you can't go 3 posts without hearing about, whether it's on topic or not.
Maybe it is such a hot topic because of the scope and breath of its larceny and ethical depravity?
What St. Leon did to those who had no vote is beyond redemption!
It needs to stop where it is!
No more expansion!
Let the dishonest developers and those dishonest bankers who gave them their lines of credit eat their losses!
Let there finally be some ramifications for the crooks in this county!
The DCRSD wants to rush us into the same mess that is now St. Leon.
Defund the DCRSD now.
"magically pop out of the ground"
It was not "magic" that put them in the ground and it is not "magic" trying to put more in the ground.
We need to solve the root problem first, removing dishonest politicians and developers from the process, then we can begin to work with the problems already laid.
"That's correct. VRUC is starting a pollution reduction program. The people of HVL have elected representatives on the board that are mking pollution reduction a priority! It's a progress in the works!"
People!!!
Do you see what happens when you begin to remove dishonest developers and lawyers from the sewering process???
With HVL, don't forget, it was shady developers trying to put even more homes on HVL's crumbling sewer system, with full knowledge of HVL's sewer problems.
What a mess that would have been.
The politcally connected developers in this county have proven time and again that they are not this county's friends...not by a long shot.
Our "in pocket" republican leadership of this county has certainly let the honest, taxpayer/citizen down...
...their back room political circle jerks have given rise to the wantonness in public, business and political ethics we are now all witnessing!
Will they have to call in the swat team to remove Bob Ewbank from County Government when his puppets lose their re-election attempts?
The politcally connected developers in this county have proven time and again that they are not this county's friends...not by a long shot.
Yep.
They are only the friends of their like-minded low-lifes.
Hey Mr. Maxwell, Mr. Ewbank, even us country bumpkin slow talking rural hoosier hicks out squatting on land you feel entitled to know you are full of pig lot slop!
2008: The year the bullies got beat up by the bullied!!!
People can only take so much!!!
"...pig lot slop!"
So you attended a Ewbank/Lehner approved and stocked Benning, Fox and Hughes Commissioners' Meeting in times now past?
The County Commissioners have become a "Owner Operator Rig" with Bob Ewbank's name stenciled on its doors, complete with Lisa Lehner mud flaps.
With increases in our property taxes it seems imperative that we look hard at how our tax money is actually being spent.
Lower taxes without lowering some spending will not be good.
Lower taxes without lowering some spending will not be good.
Dig into your savings, get a loan, but you will continue to spend to keep Mr. Maxwell and Mr. Ewbank in a style that they have become accustomed to...
The Dearborn County "Republican" Leadership have an answer for all our problems:
THINK LINK
My favorite is "Let's put some horse sense back into county government".
My favorite is "Let's put some horse sense back into county government".
As compared to Ewbank's fat little sister then after she crumbled in the primary her democrat retarded cousin's little ditty:
"Us jackasses have gotten you all into such mess so far...why stop now?"
Litte Horse?
Yeah, but all my shouting will still not stop Fox and Hughes from losing in the primary!
I ask one thing, stay the hell away fom me for you absolutely nuts for the amount of time you spend on this.
After Ralph Thompson's election to office, how come the little development bought and paid for Ewbank pony couldn't speak?
Because, he was a little horse!
"I ask one thing, stay the hell away fom me for you absolutely nuts for the amount of time you spend on this."
Do you have delusions that any of us have been stalking you?
Take a deep breath and watch Dr. Phil.
Again, your nuts.
I ask one thing
What?
We knew you would finally crack via your ethical and moral dissonance, but we had no idea you would crack so soon!!!
"Again, your nuts."
And you are a thief.
I guess that makes us all outcasts.
We're nuts?
Keep up with your amoral and crazy sewer blitzkrieg and then we will debate who is nuts.
Yes. Your nuts.
What don't you understand about that?
Nuts (as defined by the etically destitute):
TO BE AGAINST COERSING ONE'S NEIGBORS TO SUBSIDIZE ANOTHER'S FINANCIAL INTERESTS AND WELFARE.
Do you have delusions that any of us have been stalking you?
He/she/it comes here and demands we stay away from he/she/it.
Let us hope he/she/its health care has a provision for mental health treatment.
"Yes. Your nuts.
What don't you understand about that?"
Ok, we are for forced hookups and lining the pockets of you and your sister thieves.
Are we less nuts now?
Leave this blog...then we will not exist in your fragile mind!!!
The interest in this blog has not incurred the taxpayer any legal expense, nor is it forcing others to subsidize its very existence.
Is that what is pissing you off so?
I'm thinking, as far as your perception goes, the voters this year will be equally nuts!
I guess you will have to commit us all!
Give me some more of your forced sewer hookup wisdom.
Subsidize yourself to the discussion.
Please explode my fragile mind.
We are nuts. Fox and Hughes and Morris and Barrott are sane. Don't you hate it when Dr. Maxwell and Dr. Fehrman and Dr. Ewbank and Dr. Lehner appoint themselves as gate keepers to the insane asylum?
Subsidize yourself to the discussion.
Having trouble meeting payroll this month without my forced contributions, pumpkin?
Leave this blog?
But it's for everyone you say!
Hypocrite.
"Please explode my fragile mind."
Your mind is not fragile, it is just warped with your greed and sense of entitlement.
Go away before you hurt yourself.
DEEZ NUTZ!
(in yo mouf!)
Yo...yo...yo...maxwell inbred...mather fatcher!!!!!!
Next year, Ralph Thompson, President of the Board of Commissioners.
That is going to leave a mark for a few corrupt individuals who thought they had this county by the gonads.
And
look
every
single
point
I want
to
make
I leave
an
extra
space
in
for!
Or should we go, back, to, commas, every, so, often?
Ad hominem!
High Ridge!
Maxwell!
Boogeyman!
And
the
spaces
may
be
provided
to
fit
the
vast
spaces
between
your
ever
so
corrupt
brain
cells
And the development dickweeds are feeling the pressure!!!!!!!!!!
Go away little development puke.
Your are losing.
Are you not?
We look forward to your begging before honest county officials for your selfish needs.
Can you imagine how crazy these development shills will get when the lose their last vestiges of power. Get the crazy nets!
Pressure?
I'm just making observations, you're the one resorting to obscenities.
No pressure here, I am civilized.
And the little girls cried...
...as they were led away by the uniformed police officer from this county's bounty!!!
"No pressure here, I am civilized."
Tell that to those helpless folks you are trying to force, by operation of law, to finance your development interests.
Civilized?
Please!
Your pure thievery is anything but civilized!
The mortage crisis is only going to ascerbate your thievery!
Because we all owe you a profitable year, do we not?
Remember how "civilized" the republican leadership was when their development chosen candidate lost in the primary? These folks are such a clas act, are they not?
Nice,
You are barking (bitching, to your little girl 10:54 ref) up the wrong tree here.
The idea of the taxpayers financing the developer's interest is incorrect.
Nighty Night.
Hope you all had fun tonight.
Thom Hammond, keep your you know what tight.
And for the one that wakes up at
3:30AM to post something, don't forget our favorite comments of "forced sewer hookups" and my favorite subsidizing developers.
It is just quality discussion.
Vote
for
the
republicans
who
voted
for
the
development
democrat
last
commissioners'
race
it
is
what
you
bought
and
paid
for
republican
in
name
only
do
best.
shills
do
And for the one that wakes up at
3:30AM
Are you stalking members of this forum, looking in their windows, early mornings?
Shame on you!
Thom Hammond, keep your you know what tight.
Wrong!
So many of us, some you would not even recognize at walmart.
The idea of the taxpayers financing the developer's interest is incorrect.
Then pay for you own sewers and not sick lawyers on the rest of us paid by our tax dollars to collect the fees needed to sewer your developments!!!!!!!
"...don't forget our favorite comments of "forced sewer hookups" and my favorite subsidizing developers."
Don't worry little darling, we will never stop reminding our neighbors what you have planned for their savings...
How are Jeff Hughes' phone calls coming?
Talk to those who enabled those sewers to be put in.
Instead of posting on this crap blog twice a day, why don't you call Jeff's office and ask directly?
"Talk to those who enabled those sewers to be put in."
Our local self-serving thieves?
Instead of posting on this crap blog twice a day, why don't you call Jeff's office and ask directly?
Because Jeff will just tell us he is on RECORD against forced hookups...
...as he does everything in his power to facilitate such forced hookups.
"Our local self-serving thieves?"
Sure, go for it, just be the ones you're accusing are the right ones.
Jeff won't be having an office much longer.
Sometimes, political buffoonery, simple does not pay!
Sure, go for it, just be the ones you're accusing are the right ones.
Their Masters have marked them quite well.
To the point it is oderous being in their presence.
11:20 - that comment needed 0 commas. Get a GED please.
I thought you were going nighty night?
GED
Greed Ewbank Development
Commas...
...if only they could separate us from our local development crooks' transgressions!
What non-republican will Gary and Bob endorse in this year's general election?
"Greed Ewbank Development"
Clever, but desperate and off point.
As is this blog.
Get ready folks, her quiver is empty as far as attacking substantive points as to the depravity of our local development interests, she is now checking spelling!!!!!!!!
"As is this blog."
This blog seems to have captured your interest.
Go to bed already.
You have plenty time tommorrow to try to attach our savings to better buttress your bottom line.
You won't lose power completely until after the new, honest elected officials take charge.
Which post are you talking about?
Please go to bed!
You may not be tired!
But you are indeed tiresome!
Maxwell will still pretend he loves you in the morning!
"Which post are you talking about?"
The Alman Brothers "Tied To The Whipping Post?"
Oh, no doubt I'm tired. Why would you beg me to go to bed, you did so twice?
I only contest because what is on here is not true.
I think I have an alternative that we all can agree to:
LET US VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE(S) THAT WILL NOT STEAL FROM OUR NEIGHBORS TO FINANCE A FEW OF OUR MORE GREEDY REALTORS/DEVELOPERS/BANKERS/SHYSTERS?
I think all good Christians and Secular Humanists can agree to that.
Right?
"I only contest because what is on here is not true."
Tell us all again how our functional septic systems are keeping you from running sewer lines past our homes to your newly purchased properties?
"I only contest because what is on here is not true."
Truth is an alien concept for you and yours.
Our septic systems are only failing around those properties bought up by a few crooked realtors and/or developers.
What are the odds in that?
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