DCEDI Gets On Commissioner’s Agenda ONE DAY in Advance
I requested the Commissioner’s agenda for Tues 6/19/07 meeting this morning as it was NOT on the county web site. (Apparently due to a computer glitch last week that would not allow attachments to be sent.)
I received two copies. The first “draft” at 10:31 am has 4 items on it and then a second “draft” showed up at 11:08 am with a NEW item:
JIM WEST- DCEDI- “REQUEST APPROVAL TO SEEK FUNDING FROM COUNTY COUNCIL FOR DEVELOPMENT STUDY”
I have 5 questions regarding this item:
1. Why is Mr. west allowed to get on the agenda with such an important request only a day in advance and the rest of the citizenry is requested to get on a WEEK in advance?
2. How can commissioners PREPARE for this request if they only get a day’s notice?
3. What happened to the $330,000 that DCEDI was given by Council to obtain options for land for economic development?
4. Vieste just left us with their study and an approximately $300,000 bill that the taxpayers paid. Are we expected to pay for another study already?
5. Does anyone else wonder why our county road money funds seem to be diminishing and our county development study funds seem to be bottomless?
I wonder if the commissioners will have good answers for these questions.
Christine Brauer Mueller
Lawrenceburg Township
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DCEDI never goes away. If the commishes would stop funding them they might slow down a bit because as you and I know the rich boys and girls of the DCEDI won't spend their own money.
As far as question 2 of MRS. Mueller's blog is concerned the answer could be a no brainer like DCEDI had briefed one of the Commishes who briefed the second commish in what is calleds a serial phone call. If this supposition is corrrect we can further assume naturally that the third commish, Ralph Thompson was not briefed. Why would they want to get in touch with Ralph Thompson, after all he can read, write, add and even subtract.
As an after thought if the county has money to fund the DCEDI again it is obvious that we are paying too much in taxes.
Alan S. Freemond,Sr.
Tanners Creek Farm
Jackson Township
Funny, that little Miss Jeff Hughes just this week had an editorial published in the Register concerning "Shovel Ready Sites!!!"
Please!!!
Dearborn County!!!
Vote this well-used whore out of office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Agendas...schemedas...
...they are only for the "litte people!!!"
Vote for Jeff Hughes if "common citizen-taxpayers makes you nervous!
Shovel Ready Site defined:
A site, any site, a politically connected realtor or developer can purchase for ten cents on the dollar before one of their bought and paid for political cronies graciously changes the zoning of the very same site!
Look at the DCEDI website. Property is for sale in Dearborn County. Andres Property, Stone Property, Maxwell Property, etc.
Look at the empty buildings on the DCEDI website, look at the land available. The study has been done. Vieste was paid $300 an hour and they couldn't tell us anything we didn't already know.
Mr. West will be able to do a better job? Or is he and his organization trying to capitalize on getting $300 an hour?
The DCEDI's idea ecomomic impact for Dearborn County, is simply what makes a number of "connected" realtors, developers and bankers a few bucks!
If those bucks are made at the expense of the rest of all the other non-connected Dearborn County Residents, then so be it!
Would someone please direct us to one Jim West success?
"Would someone please direct us to one Jim West success?"
He discovered the "Great North West Quadrant" of Dearborn County!
Is Jeff Hughes already printing business cards:
JEFF HUGHES, FORMER DEARBORN COUNTY COMMISSIONER...
As the DCEDI gets on the agenda with one day's notice...
...somewhere, cuddling with her flying monkees and broom, Vera whispers:
"EXCELLENT!!!!!!!"
Jeff Hughes, another commissioner the DCEDI rode hard and put away wet come next election.
ONE JIM WEST SUCCESS ...
How about Northern Kentucky. During his stint there, he turned Northern Kentucky into a powerhouse. Of course residents there realize that jobs are the most important thing to making a community viable. Here we have a group of people with there heads ...in the sand, calling themselves "farmers" when actually all they do is run a few head of cattle or raise a little hay. Either we go through you or over you or around you, or these whole community will be left behind. This next election wil be a fun one!
ONE JIM WEST SUCCESS ...
How about Northern Kentucky. During his stint there, he turned Northern Kentucky into a powerhouse.
Oh hell yes, who was reseponsible for the levee deal that was not paying off its TIF bonds so the taxpayers have to pay the interest and will ahve to buy back those bonds when they are callable. Who do you think owns those TIF bonds that were floated for the Levee. They are owned by the guys who put the levee deal toghether and can't make it work. The have a fail proof deal, guaranteed by the taxpayers. If the Northern KY levee works good deal if it fails good deal also for the same guys.
I don't know that West was involved in that deal or not but it is an example of the development of Northern KY.The taxpayers are the payors of last resort.
Have you seen Northern Kentucky?
Who wants that?
By the way, DCEDI flunky, tell us what candidates you will be supporting?
Your "kiss of death" endorsement will save our political campaigns mucho funds!
Either we go through you or over you...
Come try it imbecile.Your're losing right now, your buddy Camparato of Viesta is gone, gone!What don't you understand about the word gone?
How much money are you going to put up to go "through us, over us" or...?
Please take note, that the DCEDI concubines will not address the favorism shown them regarding their placement on the agenda at such a late date.
Ask yourselves why?
Are there two sets of rules:
One for the elites!
Another for those whose money the elite squanders?
"Either we go through you or over you...
I see a winning campaign theme here!
Run with that, oh great DCEDI Grand Poobaa!!!
"How much money are you going to put up to go "through us, over us" or...?"
I see a petition serially circulated to Fox and Hughes requesting County funds for the "GO THROUGH THEM OR OVER THEM" initative!
Lord knows, these girly-men will not want to spend their own money!!!!
"What don't you understand about the word gone?
Don't these little fellas remind you of the poor little Japanese soldier, still fighting WWII on some remote island, 50 years past the armistice?
This County needs fewer "Powerhouses" dicking away taxpayer money!
How much do you want to bet that Jim West's first lemonade stand, was somehow financed by a government grant?
"This next election wil be a fun one!
Is Linkmeyer, yet again, your fall back candidate?
"calling themselves "farmers" when actually all they do is run a few head of cattle or raise a little hay.
So whines the little children wearing their power ties, struggling with their super, duper heavy briefcases, calling themselves "businessmen!"
"...or raise a little hay."
How dare these bastards raising hay on DCEDI future Industrial Parks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't they know how important the DCEDI are????????????????
Sounds like the muck boots have to be put back on. Get ready "we will go through, over or around"! Give me a break. Go to the DCEDI website and look at sites and buildings available they can't fill now. Until it's done right and not a sneak attack you will not win. A snake is still a snake. Snakes are coming back out of their holes looking for their rats to feed on. Why should we trust these people again with taxpayer dollars? Let's do a study of a study of a study of a study? durrrrrrr.
money money money- the problem with only working with people with one the money goal in mind is that they can't see how to address the other two goals to make development of ANY kind sustainable. (Environment and Social)
There are people (and families) and there are fertile lands and beautiful rural areas in this county that are just as important to the future as the Economy. Equal weight to all three- will benefit the county as a whole.
What happened to the goals of the master plan in this quest for Economic Development?
Do the citizens get to weigh in on this or is it only the select few?
Even Vieste's NW Quad plan was supposed to be on hold till the master plan maps were adopted. Why would DCEDI's plans be any different?
Chris Mueller
sir Alan Freemond sick old bastard
So, tell me, are you a realtor, developer or banker?
Further, did you make it on your own, or are you daddy's little legacy?
I may also deduce, that you got beat up alot in school?
Finally, may Freemond continue to be a thorn among you pricks!
"Until it's done right and not a sneak attack you will not win."
Until Rozow and West understand that they cannot preclude the public from public plans, utilizing public monies, which have dire affects on public communities, they will continue to crawl with the snakes!
And that, Mr. Rozow and Mr. West, is a true "No-brainer!"
"There are people (and families) and there are fertile lands and beautiful rural areas in this county that are just as important to the future as the Economy."
Remember, we are dealing with folks here who never saw a picturesque valley or flood plain they did not want to bulldoze panoramic, tree-lined hills into!
The comments published above are of high school nature. Statements like "Grand Poobah" and "Flying Monkeys and a broom" are just plain silly. Why! There is no way that this county can proceed in a positive direction if this emotional garbage continues.
There is no way that this county can proceed in a positive direction if this emotional garbage continues.
Yeah!
Rigging elections!
Back-office political deals!
Prohibiting the public from public discussions!
Yeah!
That is the DCEDI ticket to success!!!
Spare us, hypocrite!!!
"if this emotional garbage continues."
Another leech bitching about the public getting between the leeches and the public's money!
"There is no way that this county can proceed in a positive direction if this emotional garbage continues.
I noticed you missed this little gem:
"sir Alan Freemond sick old bastard"
Now, off with you!
You should be out and about, interviewing potential political puppets!
"There is no way that this county can proceed in a positive direction if this emotional garbage continues."
Again, absolutely no comment as to the underhanded way the DCEDI and the Chamber does business in this County.
The elites just want to altogether divorce the public from the public's largesse.
Only, the elite know how to spend our money...
...the taxpayer only exists to be "run over...or run through!"
Vote for the DCEDI and Chamber endorsed candidates if you want to be:
"run over...or run through!"
There is no way that this county can proceed in a positive direction if this emotional garbage continues.
How rich to lectured a DCEDI type regarding public discourse!
When, every opportunity they have, these very same DCEDI types try to shut down public discourse to everyone outside the sphere of their echo chamber circle jerks!
Read:
How rich it is to be lectured by a DCEDI type regarding public discourse!
Fixed.
Hey Fox, Hughes and whatever post-mortem remains of Benning...
Explain again the need to get on the agenda a week in advance?
Don't expect any real-time, direct answer from those stooges!
Hughes already was in cahoots with the DCEDI.
Look at his editorial in this week's Register.
Hughes and the DCEDI had plenty of time conspire concerning this play...
...but we are to believe that the DCEDI needed an "emergency" agenda addition!
Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't expect any editorial from former Commissioner Vera Benning regarding the total disregard of the week in advance agenda requirement, which she was the most vocal proponent of!
Vera was, is and always will be the low-life, low-rent stooge of the DCEDI.
Vera would sell out all her neighbors, all of the citizens of Dearborn County, to please her handlers!
I am new to Dearborn county.
What is DCEDI?
I believe the DCEDI stands for:
DEARBORN COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INIATIVE
You have to be a paid $5,000 member to participate...but they have some funding from the county...and much influnence over their bought and paid for politicians.
Thanks
If you are new to the county, realize that there is no Republican or Democratic Party in Dearborn County. There is only the pro-development, sell out this great rural county so I can get rich quick, and on the other side, the I care about the county and my community party. Thanks for reading the blog. This is the truth the local paper won't print.
The local paper won't print this information because everything I have read I would not want my children to read. I believe there are a few people that need to start attending church again and remember how we are supposed to treat people even those who we don't agree with.
I also believe some people have to much time on their hands and need to find a good charity to donate their time to instead of trying to find out who is on an agenda. I believe there are good hospital programs and mentor programs for children. Well I guess through if your going to use the type of dirty name calling that is on this blog you won't be permitted to be around those children.
I believe in a good debate but it would be nice if you could clean it up a bit.
I am new to Dearborn county.
Just so you know, the zealous pro-development people in this County believe you moved here hoping for another Northern Ky, Northgate, Eastgate or Warren County.
The rural atmosphere of Dearborn County is considered a turn-off for you…or so they realtor/developer clan will preach!
"I believe there are a few people that need to start attending church again and remember how we are supposed to treat people even those who we don't agree with.
How about opening up the government to all its citizens? Would that not be the Christian way of conducting government?
Worrying about who is getting on the agenda?
Please!!!
It is your side who spends its time and resourses trying to keep non-realtor/developers off the agenda!
A good debate means the opportunity for both sides to debate. You and yours have done their best to squelch such debate.
As far as how we treat people...I never tore down the opponents campaign signs...but I had to bring my candidate's in every night to keep it from being destroyed or stolen!
Now, maybe you need to listen up a bit more in church...I think you are missing the gist of the sermons!
And, if you are who I think you are, try being a litte more Christian to your neighbors!
Oh ye hypocrite!!!
Apparently, this self-proclaimed good Christian thinks we should turn a blind eye to the corruption in County Government and get right with the Lord?
At least until the pro-development crowd gets every thing they desire.
I know the Lord...I know who is my personal Savior.
I also can recognise a group of theves when I see them!
I also believe some people have to much time on their hands...
Soon Fox and Hughes will have a bit more time on their hands!
"I believe there are a few people that need to start attending church again and remember how we are supposed to treat people even those who we don't agree with."
Oh my goodness!
We are being lectured on Good Christian Practices by those who believe God is against "Smart Growth!!!!!!"
Can these people sink any lower?
These comments remind me of a Gilligan's Island episode where Cliff E. is the japanese sailor that never knew WWII ended.
"These comments remind me of a Gilligan's Island episode where Cliff E. is the japanese sailor that never knew WWII ended."
Huh!
Do you mean the pro-development crowd have turned County Government into the U.S.S. Minnow, then I agree.
I guess this all lines up with the 10 Commandments being a result of a secret meeting between the Burning Bush and Moses.
"I believe there are a few people that need to start attending church again and remember how we are supposed to treat people even those who we don't agree with."
Notice this ex-political hack does not think Hughes, Fox, the DCEDI, the Chamber or a whole bevy of realtor/developers need Church?
Just those who oppose her views!
guess this all lines up with the 10 Commandments being a result of a secret meeting between the Burning Bush and Moses.
The DCEDI Ten Commandants:
1. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
2. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
3. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
4. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
5. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
6. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
7. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
8. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
9. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
10. Go over the taxpayer...or through them!
Anonymous has posted 54 messages so far. As for me, I have McDonalds and Burger King, I'm happy.
But if you will not even use an alias on line, so I know who to debate with, then I can not accept your arguments.
TTFN
"Anonymous has posted 54 messages so far. As for me, I have McDonalds and Burger King, I'm happy."
Judging by your posts, and a bottomless glass of Jim Beam.
One question for the DCEDI lackey:
Why do you think the DCEDI is not restricted to the "One Week Notice Rule" relative to being placed on the agenda?
Be honest.
One question for the DCEDI lackey:
Don't hold your breath!
To answer that question would be to face head on their downright dishonesty!
The moral dissonance would make their collective heads explode!
With the DCEDI getting on the agenda upon a day’s notice, lacking any extenuating circumstances, brings to fruition the one and absolutely only reason for the “one week rule:”
To protect the corrupt elite from public scrutiny.
Good Job Benning, Fox and Hughes.
You served your masters well!
I just gotoff the phone and spoke with the dearborn county highway department. I was under the impression the road and light was going to be completed by June the 15th infront of the entrance of hidden valley lake. The date today is June 19th Question what happened with the completion of installing the light?When a road is widened and the community is told that a new light is being installed the new light should be installed!The concern I have with this project is that more traffic is flowing down this street from widening the street but the new light is not installed. What is the hold up with county highway completions?It seems to me someone is pulling the wool over our eyes as dearborn county tax payers.My question to the county is a new light ever going to be installed at stateline and stephens?I mentioned to the highway departmentworker I dont think they will ever put a new light there.I guess we will have to see it to believe it?
"The concern I have with this project is that more traffic is flowing down this street from widening the street but the new light is not installed."
In Dearborn County, putatively run by the local realtor/developers, their is always a rush to get just enough infastructure in place to permit more development.
Once new development is permitted, there is a rush to do the same in another area...leaving last area with an infastructure mess!
"...instead of trying to find out who is on an agenda.
Great!
Now the DCEDI political shills are telling us not get worked up over the agenda time requirements!
The very same time requirements they forced down the public's throat!
The well of their corruption is bottomless!
How can this person sleep at night?
Does this person ever feel the need to "Scratch" her moral and ethical itch?
"But if you will not even use an alias on line, so I know who to debate with, then I can not accept your arguments."
As we cannot accept your lies.
"My question to the county is a new light ever going to be installed at stateline and stephens?"
I don't know the specifics of this project, but likely it was let with a bond in place for completing the work. It will get done, if it's not done now then there is a reason.
When you call to have your cable hooked up which is a 15 minute process why do they give you a 4 hour window? Oh my God, the county is screwing you over thru your cable company!
"Oh my God, the county is screwing you over thru your cable company!"
Somethings just take time...
...while, some of our County Officials should be doing time!
that's okay, i don't know what you do for a living, but when it comes to it your job is no different than anyone else's.
"These comments remind me of a Gilligan's Island episode where Cliff E. is the japanese sailor that never knew WWII ended. "
I don't know what that means, who said it, or what side of the fence it's from, but it's just funny, I don't care who you are!
that's okay, i don't know what you do for a living, but when it comes to it your job is no different than anyone else's.
A real man's job depends on the income derived from the sweat of his own brow.
Gaming the system to earn a living from the sweat of your neighbor's brow, makes you a DCEDI "real man!"
"I don't know what that means, who said it, or what side of the fence it's from, but it's just funny, I don't care who you are!"
Try reading it sober.
Gilligan's Island, Dearborn style:
Gilligan: Brett Fehrman
Skipper: Vera Benning
Mary Ann: Chris Mueller
Ginger: Most DCEDI members in drag
Proffessor: Alan Freemond
Thurston Howel: Any senior member of the DCEDI
Lovvy Howel: Any senior citizen who would stay married to any senior member of the DCEDI
"Gilligan's Island"
The head hunters: Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox (talk a lot but say absolute circular non-sense)
By comparison, Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox make Gilligan look like Captain Horatio Hornblower!
"Try reading it sober."
You just made MY point with your following "casting" post.
You forgot Ginger?
You just made MY point with your following "casting" post.
You forgot Ginger?
You just made MY point...read sober!
I did cast Ginger, most appropriately!
All!
Please take note, those past and present commissioners, who forced the week in advance "agenda" on the "regular" citizens of this county, have refused to address the "agenda" question which is the basis for this particular blog entry.
Why is that, do you think?
Cowards?
JIM WEST- DCEDI- “REQUEST APPROVAL TO SEEK FUNDING FROM COUNTY COUNCIL FOR DEVELOPMENT STUDY”
Hurry, hurry, quick!!!
DCEDI requires more of our money!!!
Of course, I can see why they needed to get on the agenda as soon as possible!!!
Did the DCEDI even kiss Fox and Hughes on the lips?
Or did Fox and Hughes just find a twenty on their back-office bordello dressing room tables after their “Slam-Bams” with their DCEDI Johns?
DCEDI requires more of our money!!!"
How quaint!
DCEDI gets preferential treatment from two of our lackey commissioners and our money to boot!
Let me guess, the public is still not permitted to attend the DCEDI "Super-Secret" meetings?
Will Rick Fox author the next "Development" editorial for his masters at the DCEDI a day before their next "emergency" agenda addition?
"I believe there are a few people that need to start attending church again and remember how we are supposed to treat people even those who we don't agree with."
Oh, what a wretched creature you must be.
Not one word on this blog affects your vote, silences your voice or costs you any money.
But you have not one word against the cretins in our County Government who usurp our votes, usurp our voices and usurp our back accounts.
Again, what a wretched creature you must be!
I don't believe I am a wretched creation, I just think that the comments posted could be cleaned up a bit. I think that the freedom to post your opinion is great but I think progress could be made it the debates were more on facts instead of just calling people Flying Monkeys (or whatever the name was).
I believe people just need to rethink how they approach the comments on this blog spot.
I believe there are many changes that need to happen in this county so we can move forward (and that would be changes on both sides of the debate of economic development)
From TGIF
We keep hearing that phrase "move forward". I for one don't feel we have to "move forward". Everything is fine as is (or at least was fine until those who are intent on ruining beautiful parts of our county for their own benefit started on what they call "moving forward")
" believe there are many changes that need to happen in this county so we can move forward"
Moving forward should me more than adding to the bank accounts of DCEDI members.
The biggest changes needed in this County would be giving back the County Government to the Citizens.
Bring back public comment and either have a time agenda requirement for all or have none!
End giving any money to "Secret Societies" such as the DCEDI!
There, that is a start to "moving forward!"
BFD
"I believe people just need to rethink how they approach the comments on this blog spot."
Still no comment on the abhorent practices of the DCEDI and their political goons.
You give a whole new meaning to the word: "Transparent!"
You people are paranoid!
You people are paranoid!
Remember how "paranoid" some were when Herr Benning, Fox and Hughes instigated the "week in advance agenda requirement"?
They actually thought the DCEDI would not have to abide the same rules as the rest of the citizens of this County.
Boy, were they wrong.
The DCEDI has not asked for, or was it given by a political flunky, any favors in getting on the agenda at the last minute!
Yeah, they are paranoid.
And you are truly transparent.
paranoid or PERCEPTIVE?
"paranoid or PERCEPTIVE?"
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where did the “Transparent One” go?
Maybe she was not transparent…she was more, simply, opaque…in the densest of ways!
I can't comment on DCEDI because I am not apart of the group. I do however understand economic growth and development and this county doesn't have it. Epsecially when they need it. If owners of the Boat were to leave today, everyone in the county would be paying for some citizens blocking economic development.
TGIF
If owners of the Boat were to leave today, everyone in the county would be paying for some citizens blocking economic development.
All citizens will be paying, through higher property taxes, enforced sewer hook-ups and exhorbinant infrastructure costs, if the zealous-pro-development crowd gain a real foot-hold!
The zealous-pro-development is only about what profits zealous-pro-development, all their empty talk to the contrary!
The biggest problem with economic development is not people blocking it; but, West's inability to sell anything in the county. There are a number of sites currently available and he has had little success. Almost 2 1/2 years and virtually nothing to show for it. A big waste of a salary!
HHM
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