25 September 2023 Dearborn County Plan Commission Meeting Notes
Present: Dennis Kraus, Jr., Chairman, Russell Beiersdorfer, Mark Lehman, Joe Vogel, Jake Hoog, Dan Lansing, and Eric Lang( who arrived late at 6:25 PM)
ABSENT: Jim Thatcher, Jeff Hermesch
Also Present: Nicole Daily, Planning and Zoning Director, and Andy Baudendistel, Attorney.
Approximately 20 citizens were in attendance.
Baudendistel read the Title VI statement as legally required.
ACTION ON MINUTES- July 24 and August 28th Minutes (with correction of spelling error of discussed instead of disgust) - Approved
OLD BUSINESS: none
NEW BUSINESS:
Request: Grand Oak Estates Phase II Primary Plat—13 lot subdivision Applicant/Owner: Seig Surveying / Norb Schmid Site Location: 370 Grand Oak Drive Parcel: #15-01-01-200-001-000.006 Township: Harrison Size: 195 acres Zoning: Agriculture- Nicole Daily presented saying it had been reviewed by Tech Review and there are now NO waivers requested. This is being requested instead of the previous request. There will be a private street as part of this request. The private street can be used for frontage requirements. This has to be 50 ft easement for the private street.The private street will not need to have asphalt. It is set up to be easier to upgrade to the public road standards as the base will be there. The 13 lots will only encompass 132.9 acres of the 188.927 acre remainder. 34 letters were sent out and and very few were not acknowledged. Rob Seig presented for the owner. This should be easier and our goal was o make it compliant with the code. Next step would be be the improvement location plan after this. Asking for. A favorable vote tonight.
Lehman asked Seig about the number of ponds- They are the same. Lehman - The stormwater calculations are part of the next step. Any idea of concerns? Not really. Lehman asked about lot 13 pond and lot 9 pond below it and how that would be maintained. If the dam broke? Seig- Try to get a maintenance plan and easement for that perhaps. Seig- They could offer easement and restrictive covenants to cover this perhaps.
Opened PUBLIC DUSCUSSION
Baudendistel told the citizens that if the subdivision meets the subdivision control ordinance fully, then it has to be approved by the Plan Commission.
Jean Huber- Lives on one of the sides of the street/driveway. There were 4 houses on it and last time- now there are 5 houses.Not a regular subdivision street. It sounds like we still have waivers. Daily answered her that the developer will be putting it in and it will be gravel.
Annette Fohl- What happens to the lots at the end at the bottom. Kraus Jr said that because they are panhandles is would be difficulty for them to be developed further. They are =not part of teh subdivision request.
John Fohl- Confused where the new road will be put in. Nicole- It was shown where it came it at the bend. The original road is 35 years old. It should be on a list to be upgraded or resurfaced. The construction traffic will affect that old road. He wanted to present the need for this to be done. It does have a great base- can they work together to get the one mile paved cooperatively with the developer perhaps. Board explained that they cannot require that of a developer. He did ask that they could convey this idea to the commissioners.
Joe Alexander- voiced concerns again about the lakes and flooding and run-off. Has been in contact with DNR and they can request for people who live downstream from certain areas to look at that. They cannot require the engineering study now per board as there are no waivers.
Steve Difiglio- Lives at lot 17 and its close to one of the ponds. Also concerned with the stormwater.Asked about rules that have changed since 1996. He’s trying to understand how the 2 panhandle lots fit in now- were they approved? Discussion of setback requirements on the Martin property at end of Grand Oaks Dr. His biggest concern is the ponds and they are not being maintained now. That needs to be determined. Doesn’t want it to get left out. Daily said it was 25 ft back in the 90s for setback.
Closed PUBLIC DISCUSSION
Lang asked Seig- Still concerned about the stormwater - have you done any preliminary looks at this. Seig said he hasn’t as that is later in the process.
Kraus Jr.- The developer is building the street? Yes and they will have water main extension and bonding etc.
Lehman- what did you want to respond to from the public. Seig said the rules were complied with in the division. In regard to land next to Difiglio- that is not even part of this subdivision request. Everything we did is fully compliant with the code.
Beiersdorfer- motioned to approved the subdivision. There is no choice as it meets the requirements.Lehman seconded. All ayes Approved.
7:10 PM
ADMINISTRATIVE: DEARBORN COUNTY PROPOSED ZONING MAP and TEXT CHANGES – To review and discuss proposed ordinance amendments and updates to the Dearborn County Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map, specifically with respect to the text(s) of: Articles 9 and 10, regarding Agricultural and Residential Zoning Districts; Article 25, regarding General Standards and new Use Development Standards; Article 27, regarding Definitions.
Daily said she was not doing Kelso tonight as they were to do it in October when nothing big was on the agenda. There is a case where someone was coming in to change a written commitment on access points on Sneakville.
NO discussion on any of the townships.
Meeting adjourned at 7:20 PM
Christine Brauer Mueller
Lawrenceburg Township
