Sunday, April 06, 2008

3 April 2008 DCRSD Meeting Notes

The following notes are provided in an effort to provide a summary record the transactions of the meeting without editorial comment, except clarification of events or issues.

3 April 2008
DCRSD Meeting Notes


Present: Chairman, Enzweiler, Fehrman, Maxwell, Pruss, Dennerline and Renihan (new appointee)

Also Present: Benning, Secretary; Robert Hrezo, Hrezo Engineering sitting in for Tom Quinn, Quinn Engineering (reportedly fell and injured his ankle); Frank Kramer, Board Attorney; Ralph Meierjohan, Ameritech Homes; Sarah(?) Siekman(?), a potential future resident of Serenity Ridge; Jerry Jacobsen; and Ralph Thompson.

Meeting started at approximately 7:00 PM in the Commissioner's Meeting Room.

New Appointee
Steve Renihan was welcomed as the new Board member.

Public Comment
Sarah(?) Siekman(?), a potential future resident of Serenity Ridge asked about the status at Serenity Ridge. She and her fiancee were looking to buy a lot in Serenity Ridge. The Board explained that costs were shared and they would have to pay approximately $7,000 to buy in and part of that would be reimbursed to the other owners on a pro rata basis. Once the contract for the sewer line is signed, they can go to the Health Department and get a permit.

Meeting Notes
Meeting Notes for March 20, 2007 approved (Moved by Fehrman and seconded by Pruss).

Treasurer's Report

Regional Sewer District Savings Account $78,251.78
High Ridge Account $109,628.50
RSD Project Fund $255,849.63
Aurora Debt Service Account $ 2,236.00
Sewer District Savings $2,381.34
Serenity Ridge Account $78,834.78
Serenity Ridge

Hrezo, standing in for Quinn to read the Summary of Quotes:
CH&M Construction $49,792
Likens $54,795
UCC $49,000

The Engineers estimate was $55,000. The recommendation was to proceed with UCC's bid. Fehrman moved to accept the UCC bid with Pruss(?) seconding. Kramer commented to Renihan, who recused himself. The motion was modified to allow Enzweiler to sign all the necessary documents to proceed.

West Aurora Project

Fehrman indicated he was in an Executive Session (note no Statutory Code designations were listed as required for an Executive Session) to discuss the GRW costs ($2.8 million) to take sewage to the Aurora system. GRW indicated the 6" inch was at capacity.

There was a discussion about proceeding with a variance with IDEM, though some of the members felt it wasn't likely to be granted. They felt Aurora would soon have their problems fixed and it wouldn't be necessary. There was a discussion of the flows and whether the line was at capacity.

The line to Dillsboro was discussed. It seems most of the potential customers on US 50 do not want to connect. Pruss discussed the high costs and the subsequent high user cost and inability of the District to recover the cost or the resident to pay the exorbitant costs.

Dennerline; Commented with all the projects DCRSD would need $9.8M. He indicated that the costs to go to Dillsboro and to Aurora are about the same in the $2.8M range. He said it would be cheaper to buy the houses in Highridge and demolish them. The lot size is not large enough to use a Presser system (a manufactured septic system). He has talked to Fortner and Smalz and the nearest lift station at Dillsboro cannot handle the flow and they would have to 2 miles further.

Then the option of installing a package treatment plant as an immediate solution, to be converted to a lift station when sewers are eventually extended out US 50 was discussed. They suggested that Norbert Draper, Construction, should donate the land for the package plant to solve the problem John Draper had met with Quinn and was cooperative; but, would have to talk to his father about the land. The issue of John Ziedan and Starlight Reception was raised and it was suggested to pipe from Starlight to the Highridge. It would have to be determined if it was legal and feasible.

Enzweiler was going to talk to Dillsboro again and Fehrman to Aurora.

Dennerline indicated about 24 homes in Highridge would need to be served and about 40 on Hueseman Road, which they could probably send to Aurora. The area is not growing and the costs are too high for the homeowners to be able to payback. He thought they could put in a package plant for $75,000 to $100,000. IDEM pulled the permit for Draper and they would have to reapply. The matter had been referred to the Health Department to resolve and they had been dragging their feet. They felt IDEM could do anything they wanted.

Maxwell: He found the fragmented information discouraging. They have been discussing this for three years and because of the conflicting and fragmented information, they haven't accomplished anything. He read the GRW information and was impressed. He joined to solve Highridge and it hasn't happened.

A discussion of the fragmented information and lack of success ensued, including the issues with Dillsboro and Aurora and the accuracy of the GRW information and the lack of answers from GRW. Maxwell had cost guesstimate from Larry Smith and Dennerline contended his estimates were inaccurate.

The discussion ended back at the economic feasibility of the options and the package plant being the best option.

The discussion also touched Hueseman Road and the 30 to 40 homes there. There is a question of district OKI or Aurora. They needed definitive information and numbers. Enzweiler and Fehrman are going to check one more time.

Maxwell then asked about Ameitech homes and Gabbard Estates.

Meierjohan: He asked to be released from the DCRSD and he would go to Aurora for sewers and negotiate a deal. He has $1M invested and has waited 3 years due to the layers of bureaucracy, he couldn't wait 3 more, he has got to move forward. He has had discussions with Randy Turner.

There followed a discussion about releasing that subdivision to Aurora, whether they could do it or wanted to do it. Meierjohan commented that the Engineers say how to design things; but, they ought to go to the Contractors who know how to get it done right and cheap. He felt DCRSD should talk to contractors. There were discussions of GRW's escalating cost estimates

Meierjohan adamantly avowed for the record that Gabbard Estates LLC. is a 100% owned subsidiary of Ameritech Homes.

Kramer indicated they would need an inter-local agreement to be taken to Aurora.
Dennerline mover to write a letter to retain the area in the District; but, release Meierjohan to negotiate with Aurora for sewage. Fehrman seconded it. Approved.

(Note: Fehrman has already been working within Aurora Utilities Board for Aurora to run sewers out US 50 toward Gabbard Estates. An Executive Session was held to discuss the issue prior to this meeting.)

Loan Grant Letters

The 504 loan grant letters will be signed and sent out to the residents of Cole Lane and Stewart Road. These are to help people who cannot afford the cost of the hook-up or the needed modifications to their homes to hook-up, where they can obtain low interest loans or grants for the costs. The forms will need to go to the Versailles Rural Development. Dennerline hoped the process was as easy as described.

Claims

One claim for Del Business for $16.99 for a printer cartridge was on the docket.
Fehrman moved, Dennerline seconded to pay claims. Approved.

Discretion of the Chairman
Petition from Valley Rural Utilities


Maxwell explained that he and Fehrman had talked with Jeff Bittner of VRUC regarding VRUC becoming the Central (or Hidden Valley Lake) Regional Sewer District. They wanted to do that to be able to apply for loans at an advantageous rate. VRUC is currently a public/private utility and they wanted to become a regional district. They wanted to raise money to be able to fix their I&I problems. They cannot afford to borrow at the commercial rates. To become sewer district, they needed DCRSD to sponsor them.

Dennerline asked Jerry Jacobsen if he had an opinion and Mr. Jacobsen responded not that he would give in a public meeting.

Parvin Price had produced the petition and it was suggested that Kramer review it.
Dennerline raised concerns about creating another sewer district he would hate to take it over. Dennerline considered offering them a seat on DCRSD and making VRUC a satellite. Fehrman would like to see them fix their problems.

Jacobsen indicated they (VRUC) have been charging enough for years; but, hadn't fixed their problems.

Meierjohan suggested a Capital project, where they would add the cost to the tax duplicate for the properties. Thompson indicated that has been discussed several months ago and cannot be legally accomplished. Benning indicated as a taxpayer, she wouldn't want to hamper DCRSD down the road, for example with the State Revolving Fund (as in erode the loan capacity available to DCRSD).

Fehrman indicated they need a sponsor and they came to the "sewer people". Dennerline suggested Kramer review it.

Meierjohan said it is like every other discussion that gets caught up in the political matrix and nothing gets done. He wonders if DCRSD could be the vehicle to get this done. It should be the mission of this board to assist. DCRSD shouldn't reject their request. Should solve I&I. "Telling them to get lost is not right."
Kramer indicated he looked at the statute and they would need to go to Council for approval. Dearborn would become the guarantor for them just like they are for DCRSD. If VRUC failed the Citizens of Dearborn County would pay the cost.
They decided to have Kramer research the issue.

(Note: A telephone call after the meeting indicated Bittner went to Parvin Price without the knowledge and approval of the VRUC Board.)

(Note: The issue of a Central Regional Sewer District was brought to several Commissioners and Council members and was rejected. The County officials, while wanting to see VRUC solve their problems, would not encumber the County and its Citizens with the responsibility and cost for VRUC and the risk of the District being created and then defaulting to the County to solve their logistical and financial problems.)


It was decided the third week meeting was unneeded.

Adjourned at approximately 8:08 PM.

Ralph Thompson
Washington Township

100 comments:

Anonymous said...

(Note: A telephone call after the meeting indicated Bittner went to Parvin Price without the knowledge and approval of the VRUC Board.)

Another day, another realtor/developer working a back-office deal.

What has Parvin Price cost the residents of HVL to date?

What benefits has his service provided the residents of HVL?

Anonymous said...

Combining the VRUC and DCRSD would lead to the "perfect storm" of insider dealing and developer pocket padding.

Anonymous said...

"He (Dennerline) said it would be cheaper to buy the houses in Highridge and demolish them."

It would have been cheaper to just shut down Dennerline's trailer park than to use our tax dollars to sewer Dennerline's business.

The dcrsd was formed to FIX High Ridge and they can't figure a way to do so.

Who needs the dcrsd?

Anonymous said...

Everything was rosy for the DCRSD Board when they thought they would have carte blanc in forcing the rest of us into tens of thousands of dollars of debt to hook up to their crappy pressurized sewer lines.

How long did they expect their flunkies in elected office to remain in office pulling such nonsense?

Anonymous said...

Lisa Lehner needs to reimburse her legal fees back to the taxpayers for her "creation" of the DCRSD.

What has this DCRSD scam cost the taxpayers so far?

Anonymous said...

The dcrsd board started out as bullies but have devolved into whimpering and whining girly-men...

Anonymous said...

He (Board Member Dennerline) said it would be cheaper to buy the houses in Highridge and demolish them. The lot size is not large enough to use a Presser system (a manufactured septic system.

A septic system?

I thought all septic systems were environmental killers!

Except John Maxwell's septic system, of course!

Anonymous said...

I love how the stubborn and pig-head Maxwell has placed in jeopardy the pressurized sewer system he is trying to force on the rest of us because he is too arrogant and full of himself to hook on to St. Leon's pressurized sewers.

Keep up the good work John.

You make our case against such shoddy sewer systems.

Vlad Dracula said...

I love how the stubborn and pig-head Maxwell has placed in jeopardy the pressurized sewer system he is trying to force on the rest of us because he is too arrogant and full of himself to hook on to St. Leon's pressurized sewers.

No he's not arrogant, he simply knows that the pressurized Vac systems are no damned good, expensive and short lived.

But actually don't we all know that already?

Anonymous said...

Meierjohan: "He asked to be released from the DCRSD and he would go to Aurora for sewers and negotiate a deal. He has $1M invested and has waited 3 years due to the layers of bureaucracy, he couldn't wait 3 more, he has got to move forward."

The the ancient Knight Templar who guards the "Holy Grail" in "Indiana Jones, the last Crusade" said: "you must choose, but choose wisely, for as the real grail brings eternal life, the false grail brings death".

Meierjohan seems to have chosen most unwisely.

Maybe he can find a job in the sub-prime mortgage area?

Anonymous said...

Ameritech Homes could have realized a small fortune if their political operatives had been able to deliver them taxpayer subsidized sewers.

Alas, the taxpayers found out what was in the works.

And now Ameritech Homes is on the same level as the rest of us property owner pukes in Dearborn County.

Sucks to be mortal.

Anonymous said...

Doug Baer deserves a raise. We have never had a public employee willing to bend over so far back-wards to render aid and comfort to finance the development of this County's development chosen few! Keep up the good work Doug, no matter what it costs the average citizen of this County!

Anonymous said...

The county failed those folks who purchased homes in High Ridge Estates.

The County now owes the folks in High Ridge Estates.

No matter if the cost to County to fix High Ridge Estates does not factor in enough money for parasitic "hangers on" like Ameritech and Gabbard Estates.

Sorry boys.

We owe you nothing.

No matter your hard fought for political connections.

Anonymous said...

No he's not arrogant, he simply knows that the pressurized Vac systems are no damned good, expensive and short lived.

Which is why he is holding out for gravity sewers.

But he does not possess the marbles to admit such.

Anonymous said...

Ralph Thompson, Kathy Scott and the Democratic victor in the soon to ex-Fox race, will be kicking ass and taking names of all those reprobates that have tried to sell off our county too a few despicable and amoral development interests that have gotten far to big for their tight britches!!!

Anonymous said...

It would seem that Gary and Liz Morris hooked up their political wagon to few very gaseous jackasses.

Anonymous said...

to a few very gaseous jackasses.

Although, maybe the Morris coupling may feel they did hook up their wagon to too few gaseous jackasses.

Maybe one more Ewbank/Lehner-like jackass clone could have made their political gambit worthwhile!

Anonymous said...

"It seems most of the potential customers on US 50 do not want to connect."

Now, victims of outright extortion are described as "potential customers?"

How convenient.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Brett can re-label them as "potential availability fee" providers?

Anonymous said...

(Note: A telephone call after the meeting indicated Bittner went to Parvin Price without the knowledge and approval of the VRUC Board.)

Jeff Bittner and Sammy Gutzwiller: always looking for ways to finagle someone else to help subsidize their development plans.

First it was the residents of Hidden Valley Lake, now the whole of Dearborn County residents.

What a class act those two make.

The remaining living creatures who inhabit Double Lick Creek tremble in fear in what the Bittner/Gutzwiller may have planned for them.

Anonymous said...

New Appointee
Steve Renihan was welcomed as the new Board member.


So,is Steve wanting to be a friend and neighbor of the rest of us, or is he looking for an avenue to force his "new" neighbors to pay for his required sewers?

cc said...

And how much does he as an OH resident know about Dearborn County?

Anonymous said...

And how much does he as an OH resident know about Dearborn County?

Well, he seems to know enough to connect up to our local "user" realtor/developer population!!!

Anonymous said...

Steve may feel, like Fehrman and Maxwell, that we are sitting on land that could better support their petty needs!

Anonymous said...

Funny, when our local republican leadership development pimps ran democrat Linkmeyer against republican Thompson, they made sure to stress that Linkmeyer was a Dearborn County lifer.

Now with Steve Renihan, his documented length of resident status is not all that important.

Why is that...do you all think?

Anonymous said...

Thank the Good Lord that our local legal title attorneys and pseudo public servants got real and intensely greedy.

It may have taken a decade or so longer to mount a defense against such crooks but for their blatant and self-serving action calling attention to their self-serving motivations.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox, slow-witted as they are, seem to think that Ewbank and Company will save them from their crushing electoral defeat this year.

When in fact, Ewbank and Company, will not even return their calls after their impending crushing electorial defeat.

Anonymous said...

Meierjohan adamantly avowed for the record that Gabbard Estates LLC. is a 100% owned subsidiary of Ameritech Homes.

Any of you charecter assasins out there care to apologize "on the record" for your years of refering to Gabbard Estates as Fehrman's Subdivision?

Anonymous said...

I would never trust any developer 100% on anything.

Brett, as realtor for Gabbard has a conflicting pecuniary interest at the very least.

Anonymous said...

And when did Meierjohn actually become owner?

Anonymous said...

"And when did Meierjohn actually become owner?"

The records at the court house should supply the actual date of Meierjohan's purchase. Until that is verified ...guess we will have to assume Meierjohan is telling us the truth.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know if Kathy Scott is so open for the public, why isn't there a way to comment under her topic. Does she not want to hear what people think in an open blog. Or is it only open to the public when she wants it to be to get votes.

Also if she has only lived here for 14 years, where did she come from---Ohio? Just like all the others that put down any type of development. Some people from Ohio are allowed to move here but dam the any others. I want to know when the cut off date was for other Ohio residents to move here.

Anonymous said...

I want to know when the cut off date was for other Ohio residents to move here.

The cut-off for me is when someone wants me to pay for their sewers, or over-tax the capacity of our schools or when they move into an area of farms then bitch about the dirt and dust and the farm smells.

Anonymous said...

"The cut-off for me is when someone wants me to pay for their sewers, or over-tax the capacity of our schools or when they move into an area of farms then bitch about the dirt and dust and the farm smells."

The takers, the do everything for ME crowd. Never satisfied, the upperwardly mobile "mEEdle class".

Anonymous said...

I have many new people move in around my farm and not one of them felt the need buy off a politician to force me to pay to better their land.

But we see what the corrupt have done up in St. Leon and we are well aware what the dcrsd is trying to do.

Anonymous said...

Dearborn County? Where's Dearborn County?

Anonymous said...

Dearborn County: Drive through the mess that is Warren, Butler and Hamilton Counties...cross the border...then notice the wonderful difference...

...farms and fields and pastures and woodlots...

...that just pisses off a handful of our spoiled development types because we won't let them black top it all...

Anonymous said...

“I would like to know if Kathy Scott is so open for the public, why isn't there a way to comment under her topic. Does she not want to hear what people think in an open blog. Or is it only open to the public when she wants it to be to get votes.”

If you look at all the candidates posts none have a comment tab. The info is being made public so that we can make an informed decision.

adc said...

“I would like to know if Kathy Scott is so open for the public, why isn't there a way to comment under her topic. Does she not want to hear what people think in an open blog. Or is it only open to the public when she wants it to be to get votes.”

And she has contact information at the bottom- so you can email her directly- that sounds open to me.

Anonymous said...

...farms and fields and pastures and woodlots...Where's bambi?

Spoken like a true Anti-development person. I have mine and screw the rest of you. Development? Well that has to happen somewhere else, not here.

Anonymous said...

Spoken like a true Anti-development person. I have mine and screw the rest of you. Development? Well that has to happen somewhere else, not here.

Development is going to happen from existing infrastructure on out.

Not at the pace and tempo you thieves would like to have it, as you would try to force the rest of us to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt to pay to hook on to sewers that we neither need nor want, sewers that don't work when the power goes out.

And Bambi?

Delicious.

They probably don't serve much Bambi at the yuppie "hey look at me," the "suck up" and the "ass kisser" Country Club you belong to, do they.

Thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

"And she has contact information at the bottom- so you can email her directly- that sounds open to me."

AAAAHHHHH!!!! BEHIND THE SCENES! COVERT! EVERYBODY HAS TO KNOW EVERYTHING, YOU CAN'T HAVE A PHONE CALL, PUT IT IN THE BLOG! AAAHHAHHHHH!!!

Anonymous said...

I have mine and screw the rest of you.

I got "mine" without having a crooked politician nor shyster sending out letters demanding my neighbors support and/or subsidize what is now mine.

I did not even charge my neighbors a availability fee to have me as their new neighbor.

An alien concept for you, I know.

Anonymous said...

AAAAHHHHH!!!! BEHIND THE SCENES! COVERT! EVERYBODY HAS TO KNOW EVERYTHING, YOU CAN'T HAVE A PHONE CALL, PUT IT IN THE BLOG! AAAHHAHHHHH!!!

This coming election is really fraying your nerves.

Maybe if you had not hitched yourself to bunch of dishonest and bullying development interests, you would still have an ice cube's chance in hell getting yourself or your flunkies reelected?

Anonymous said...

Our local development punks will be in need of acute medical care come May, and full rehab services and mental and emotional counseling come November!

Anonymous said...

Office holders who do not need the extra or only paycheck of political office, are not the type and kind of office holders our local Development Interests are willing to propagate and nurture to bend to their needs and demands.

Anonymous said...

Now that the local republican machine has had its wheels fall off, Johnny Nugent better get his head straight and get back to supporting the average citizen, or he may find himself up against real opponents and not some pansy-assed liberal gun-grabber like Lane Siekman. And how dumb was that for Siekman to pick such a loser issue in a region of gun owners?

Anonymous said...

No more attorneys running for any office.

Please.

Lawyers and politics.

Like giving a can gas and lighter to a pyromaniac.

Anonymous said...

can "of" gas

Still the same result:

KABOOM!

Anonymous said...

Does Law School create arrogant and pompous twits, or is it that arrogant and pompous twits are just drawn to the study of Law?

Anonymous said...

"AAAAHHHHH!!!! BEHIND THE SCENES! COVERT! EVERYBODY HAS TO KNOW EVERYTHING, YOU CAN'T HAVE A PHONE CALL, PUT IT IN THE BLOG! AAAHHAHHHHH!!!"

Will Scott require an uniformed police offer at commissioners' meetings?

Doubt it.

Will Scott reinstate open and spontaneous public comment at commissioners' meetings?

For sure.

Will Scott be led by the nose by the NEW county attorney?

Most definitely not.

Sounds like Scott may be a real shock to the good ole boy/girl development system in this county.

If only our local good ole boy/girl development racketeers had not been so greedy...

...they would be still in charge of their petty-ass fiefdom come November.

Anonymous said...

Please officer for offer in my above post. Proof reading is boring, don't you know.

Anonymous said...

See what I mean..."please REPLACE officer for offer..."

Now I refuse to proof read anymore...time to do something else outside, on this most beautiful day!

Anonymous said...

Scott will be an open and honest public servant who will not be beholden and groveling to any one faction.

What a pleasant alternative that will be contrasted with Hughes and Fox.

Both seem to have their lips forever sutured to a few development interests' backsides.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, we need to shadow the "growth" of more progressive communities such as Butler County, to keep up with the "growth" times!

I guess we got off cheap with Vera Benning!

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080407/NEWS01/304070031/1077/COL02

Anonymous said...

And we all know that Bob Ewbank and/or Lisa Lehner would trip over each others forked tails attacking a Thom Hammond type of character for casting dispersions on the the likes of Derek Conklin and his good and honest and civic minded wife Karen...

WELCOME TO DEARBORN COUNTY!

Anonymous said...

Conflicts of interests:

It's OK.

They are friends and benefactors of the County Attorney and his/her in-tow groveling politicians.

Anonymous said...

We, the citizens of this County, deserve so much better than our present politicians and the low-life lawyers that seem to control them.

Anonymous said...

When the honest adults take back control of this County's Government, what will the DCEDI and their ethically challenged lawyers do?

Are they cultivating a whole new crop of corrupt or clueless politicians to do their bidding sometime in the future?

Anonymous said...

When the honest adults take back control of the government what are they going to do to address growth?

Look, there is nothing here for our children to stay for. Unless you want them to live with you because gas is expensive and there are no white collar/decent jobs for them.

So what's the plan?

Please don't give me the same old crap.

Did you ever think that DCEDI is trying to create jobs. Whether right or wrong what other job creation is being accoplished in this county.

That's right nothing.

If you think all is ok, your a dumbass.

Anonymous said...

If you think all is ok, your a dumbass.

So, let's pave over the very reason our children are drawn back to this County?

There is a "dumbass" in the mix, alright!

Explain to my kids why it is best to put their mom and dad into debt to pay for sewers they do not need or desire, that do not function when the power fails, to support a few cry baby whiners?

Anonymous said...

"So what's the plan?"

Try "Smart Growth!"

Or, would you prefer the fast profit for the politically connected few at that extreme cost of future generations of citizens on this county?

Never mind...we all know your answer.

Anonymous said...

"Your" dumb ass?

Why do you insist on bringing "your" dumb ass into this discussion?

Dumbass...I mean dumb ass...really now!

Anonymous said...

Someone, please, sewer our County's pathetic development users' dreams and desires, no matter the ultimate costs to the rest of us!!!

Maybe then they will quit their incessant bitching!!!

Until their next cable or satellite TV bill comes due at least!!!

Anonymous said...

If John Zeiden was a farmer, he would complain that his tillable acreage should be somehow quadrupled simply because of the very creation of the DCRSD.

At his neighbors' expense and loss, of course.

HHM said...

DCEDI has been so successful in bringing business to Dearborn County? With over $300,000 of taxpayer money!

Lawrenceburg Main Street development is significantly more successful. We should get rid of DCEDI and the Redevelopment Commission and contract Lawrenceburg Main Street development, they have a proven track record.

Anonymous said...

"...they have a proven track record."

But does the Lawrenceburg Main Street Development Group have a "proven" track record giving the DCEDI membership all they demand, no matter the cost to the citizens of this county?

jb said...

How many $20,000 grants have been given to businesses in Lawrenceburg that are no longer in business?
Bottom line- business needs a climate conducive to its needs- it does not need a handout. That only allows a weak business to survive for awhile. It doesn't make it a strong business.
Businesses need a good - well vetted plan and a strong financial advisor.
Throwing money at them doesn't help.
And while we are at it- why are we handing out money to outside businesses to compete with our local businesses? That is NOT keeping the environment conducive to our local entrepreneurs.

Anonymous said...

Read Chris Mueller's guest column in the local paper and all this will make sense. People might think Chris is a busy body, trouble maker, watch dog, etc... Call her what you want but someone who has facts and has the guts to print it should be given a pat on the back. If all the local politicians understood their true role in County government then there wouldn't be so much criticism from the "do-nothing/anti-everything crowd". When you hear all the facts and understand what is going on without blinders on you can see that those in office are only there to 1) collect a paycheck 2) collect a paycheck 3) collect a paycheck. I truly thank Chris for her dedication. She is and should be thanked by everyone in this County. Your current polciticians are only out for themselves. Vote early and tell your friends and family to vote.

Anonymous said...

Ditto for kudos to Chris.

She provides the light.

As our corrupt and/or stupid politicians and their development owners scurry around like scared cockroaches.

Anonymous said...

1) collect a paycheck 2) collect a paycheck 3) collect a paycheck.

And with the likes of Vera Benning, even after the voters kicked her out of office, she still is collecting paychecks written on the taxpayers' account.

Welfare for the slow of wit and unemployable.

Anonymous said...

If anyone would like to see Hughes and Fox's ethics, I have them on display in my grand mothers thimble.

Anonymous said...

in my grand mothers thimble.

With plenty room left for our local development shysters' ethics to boot, I would imagine?

Anonymous said...

Rick and Jeff were talking during a break from one of their mandatory Bob Ewbank's "Do What I Tell You To Do" semimars when Jeff asked, "So, Rick, if the worst happens and there's a nuclear holocaust, and you know the world is going to end, what's the first thing you'd do?"

"I'd screw the first thing that moves," replied Rick. "How about you?"

Jeff responded, "I guess I'd sit real still!"

Anonymous said...

When Jeff asked Bob Ewbank what he would do.

Bob responded: "I would not do anything different, I would continue to screw whomever John Maxwell paid me to screw!"

Anonymous said...

The Harvard School of Medicine did a study of why women like Chinese food so much. The study revealed it is due to the fact that WonTon spelled backwards is "Not Now".

Anonymous said...

Sorry, premature joke-a-lation.

Dracula said...

Our local development punks will be in need of acute medical care come May, and full rehab services and mental and emotional counseling come November!
AND Kathy can take care of that too. We'll be gerttinig a twofer

Anonymous said...

I am sorry but I don't think Chris Muller has all the facts. She only prints what she knows will make her look good so she can make friends. I for one as a citizen of Dearborn County would never thank Chris Muller. She also has her blinders on when she is taking notes and writing crap. There is a difference about printing the facts of issues and attacking peoples personal issues. So if think what Chris Muller does is OK then I guess you won't mind the following..

Chris Muller is a person who needs to dedicate their time to a hospital. She is just a person who has nothing to worry about because her husband takes care of her. Her allowance every week covers her gas to go to all those meetings, shopping and a personal cook. She is a hoosier want to be. She moved here from Ohio and has her piece of the pie but doesn't want anyone else to be able to move into Dearborn County. She also complains about people like the Perfects who put money into this community and created an attraction which puts our County on the map. She doesn't like it when people are able to do something with their own land.

So we will see how that is taken since I have some facts, had the guts to print it and put some person attacks into the mix.

Anonymous said...

And Chris lets you post here.

No pounding the gavel down on your opinions.

No uniformed police officer ushering you from her blog.

Do you expect her to be your cheerleader too?

Pleae write your own blog.

Report what you think Chris is leaving out.

Anonymous said...

So we will see how that is taken since I have some facts

Your facts are just pissed off rantings.

Anonymous said...

Don't like chris' blog?

Press the "Create Blog" button at the top right side of this blog page.

Take her on point by point.

Comments turned off, of course.

Anonymous said...

I bet if they would create their blog, Christine would put a link to their blog site at the top her blog.

And they will still be pissed off because then they cannot blog in "private!"

Cry babies!

Anonymous said...

Chris is to the police in the below news piece...as is our crooked development interests are to the young lady in the attached photo:

http://www.700wlw.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119585&article=3522371

Chris is just following your corrupt trail of candy wrappers.

Anonymous said...

Chris is just so powerful.

I can see why our local development bullies just cannot compete with her.

With a blog site any one can create and all those pens and paper she has to take notes at meetings, she certainly is a powerhouse.

No wonder our soon to be out of power development cronies cannot fight back.

Maybe playing field needs to be leveled.

Let Chris keep her blog, but have editor rights to her blog limited to some DCEDI committee?

Anonymous said...

Mueller is driving the development thugs crazy. Thugs hate it when that happens. Thugs are people too. Thugs just want to be treated equally. Thugs just want the rest of us to treat them "equally," as in the way their sycophant, trembling underlings treat the Thugs. What good is being a Thug if you can't throw your weight around?

Anonymous said...

"So we will see how that is taken since I have some facts, had the guts to print it and put some person attacks into the mix."

Guts??? Anonymous guts????

Anonymous said...

"Guts??? Anonymous guts????"

Don't you make that "gutsy anonymous" fellow sick his uniformed police officer on you or attack you with his lawyer/shyster/maxwell/female dog in heat on you!!!

Anonymous said...

Enjoying life?

Anonymous said...

You bet!

The catfish are biting!

Broiled catfish for dinner!

Life is good!

What failed relationship are you rebounding from at the present?

Anonymous said...

Facts? Facts?1?! Facts??!?!

What facts do you have that Chris Mueller has anything wrong in her guest column? What are your facts? Chris Mueller is fortunate to be a wife and grandmother who has the time and energy to serve Dearborn County. She does serve Dearborn County beleive it or not. The wasteful spending of the politicians in this county has to stop. The reason she is involved is because she has morals and ethics. Do 98% of the current people in office have morals and ethics? Think about that and give me an answer. Did Chris state anything untruthful in her guest column? Anything whatsoever?

Anonymous said...

Chris Mueller does not wear a bull ring in her nose.

Those with such rings firmly fastened to their snouts by their development bosses, seem to truly resent that.

Anonymous said...

"Chris Mueller does not wear a bull ring in her nose."

Is it true that Ewbank and Maxwell purchase their bull nose rings by the case?

Anonymous said...

Gary Morris:

Welcome to irrelevancy.

You certainly picked the wrong time to make your "move" in County politics!!!

Anonymous said...

Ask Rick Pope

Anonymous said...

Ask Rick Pope what? Remember , a vote for Rick Pope is a vote for Maxwell.

Anonymous said...

Ask Rick Pope, will he utilize and embrace the Development owned political hack attack of labeling his opponents "anti-everything" or "do-nothings" or both?

Anonymous said...

Hey, the fact is Rick Pope is a good guy , but he is running with the support of the developers and the developers only back canidates theY can "count on". We got enough of those type in county government already.

Anonymous said...

Let me guess: Rick Pope is against forced hook ups but will vote to give the dcrsd and St. Leon everything they want to afford them the power to force sewers on the rest of us.

Thanks but no thanks.

We currenty have no shortage of two-faced politicians.

Anonymous said...

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