Wednesday, September 12, 2007

Master Plan Land Use Element- PUBLIC HEARING

Land Use Public Hearing

The Dearborn County Plan Commission will hold a public meeting to review the draft Land Use Element of the Comprehensive Plan on September 24th, 2007 at the Administration Building (in Lawrenceburg). The public hearing will begin at 7:00pm, although the proposed Comprehensive Plan amendments are not scheduled to be reviewed until decisions have been rendered for all other case-sensitive items that are on the agenda.

Following the presentation of these items, the Plan Commission and its staff will review the Land Use Element update and will field and address questions, comments, concerns and recommendations from all interested county property owners, business owners, and residents.

All interested parties may obtain an agenda or staff report for this meeting by visiting the Department of Planning & Zoning office-located on the third floor of the Administration building-or by accessing these items online (via the 'PUBLIC NOTICE' link) at the following website: www.dearborncounty.org/planning

Background

For the past 2 years, the County Plan Commission, its 58-member Advisory Committee, and the local planning staff have been building upon the land use framework set forth in the original, adopted Comprehensive Plan. These groups developed alternative land use scenarios in consideration of the feedback returned from 4 public workshops (which included 533 surveys) as well as the findings and recommendations forwarded by the active membership of the Advisory Committee during its 12 meetings.

The current proposal for the updated Land Use Element features the following amendments: revised existing land use maps; an amended series of future land use designations; new land use criteria maps (that may be referenced to establish a community "base map"); a future land use map guide; two alternative future land use maps; and a preliminary implementation program.

Some of the critical items that the Plan Commission will consider during the public hearing process include:
1) which future land use map, and map palette, to forward to the Board of Commissioners for its final consideration and action; and
2) whether specific geographic areas identified within the Land Use Element should be analyzed or modified further.

Public Review & Comment

Hard copies of the draft Land Use Element and the existing, adopted Comprehensive Plan will be on display for public review at the County Planning & Zoning office as well as the public libraries in Lawrenceburg, Aurora, Dillsboro, and Logan Township. Digital copies of the plan may also be obtained online by referencing the 'Land Use Workshops' link online at:
www.dearborncounty.org/planning


Public comment forms are also available-both online and at the aforementioned locations-for those who would like to forward their written comments or for individuals who may not be able to attend the September 24th meeting.

Mark McCormack
Dearborn County Planning Director

95 comments:

Anonymous said...

These groups developed alternative land use scenarios in consideration of the feedback returned from 4 public workshops (which included 533 surveys) as well as the findings and recommendations forwarded by the active membership of the Advisory Committee during its 12 meetings.

Imagine an ex-county commissioner directing a "uniformed police officer" to remove these 533 "rabble rousers" from a "public" meeting!

And then you can consider where this County was headed under Benning and Company!!!

Anonymous said...

Look where it is headed now

NO WHERE


NO WHERE

Anonymous said...

Benning only wanted to run meetings
in a fair and productive way

When Cliff stood up

We knew we were going nowhere.

Anonymous said...

Look where it is headed now

NO WHERE


NO WHERE


Yeah!

Right!

We need to steal a few more dollars from the taxpayers to support a few of our realtor/developers incapable of going "any where" with out a gun, a few willing accomplices and a few politicians willing to sell their souls!

Anonymous said...

When Cliff stood up

This must be very painful for you...but the person who posted the first comment was not "Cliff!"

A "shocker" for you...that others are witness to your larceny?

Anonymous said...

"NO WHERE"

Translation:

WHERE A PERSON ENDS UP WHO CAN NO LONGER FIGURE OUT HOW TO "GAME" THE SYSTEM TO STEAL FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS!

MAY OUR LOCAL DEVELOPERS HAVE A GOOD TRIP TO "NO WHERE!!!"

Anonymous said...

So far, not one person has been forced to get a bank loan to pay for our local realtor/developers' sewers!

We must be on the road to "NO WHERE!"

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD has hit a "brick wall" in their attempts to extort the savings from the good citizens of Dearborn County to subsidize the developments of a few of its board members.

We are all headed "No Where!"

Anonymous said...

My God, I just arrived home, after passing pasture after pasture where not one bulldozer was scarring up the fertile soil making way for blacktop and/or concrete!

We need to put a stop to all these unmolested pastures!

Some need to make the payments on their mistresses' apartments!

Anonymous said...

Benning only wanted to run meetings in a fair and productive way

And those who were not rabid pro-development, or did not want to be drafted financiers for her development masters, just got in the way!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Land use planning just gets in the way of those who want to plan land use to grow their bank accounts, even if it bankrupts the taxpayer!

Anonymous said...

Remember folks, when you drive through the Greendale and Lawrenceburg mess of development and traffic, you are "SOME WHERE!"

When you drive past farms and fields and pastures, you are "NO WHERE!"

You choose where you would like to end up after a long day!

Anonymous said...

To date, since the plans of the the DCRSD have been stymied by clearer thinking and honest people, I have not had to withdrawl money from my children's college fund to pay for the sewers of my local realtor/developer...

...I guess my children are also on the road to "no where!"

Anonymous said...

The climate in Dearborn County today is so unfriendly to "business as usual" realtor and developers!

Presently, there are so many "factions" willing to point out where a realtor or developer is trying to steal a little here, a little there!

The "Benning Willing Blindness" of yesteryear is sorely missed!

Anonymous said...

"Some need to make the payments on their mistresses' apartments!"

On point and for real!

Anonymous said...

"Look where it is headed now

NO WHERE


NO WHERE"



I live on a farm located in this County.

Please build a "Kwiki-Mart" and a strip mall on the farm to my East and a Business Park on the farm to my West...I just hate being a contributing factor to all the "NO WHERE" that is happening across this County!

Could I maybe offer up a larger share of my tax dollars and my savings to save us all from all this "NO WHERE" creeping in amongst us all?

Would it help if I testified to the fact that I think my septic tank has led to more birth defects and developers and lawyers than lead paint and disco?

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting how this blog shows the true colors of certain residents of this county. Residents that cannot come up with solutions on the issues. The majority of the comments on this blog offer no educated reasoning rather personal attacks, complaining, just flatout stupid talk. They cannot get over the fact that there are other people living here.

This county is severly being neglected and run by the stupid people.

Anonymous said...

incompetent and uneducated....

jb said...

You got that part right- but maybe what is missing is a leader who is a guide rather than a dictator.
And maybe it is poosible to overplan and in effect screw things up worse.
As the good book says- God will provide.
Not DCEDI or DCRSD or the GOVERNMENT.
GOD.

Anonymous said...

"They cannot get over the fact that there are other people living here."

No, they cannot get over the fact that there are those who would force the rest of us to subsidize their developments!

I have seen a number of homes popping up on what was once farm and woodland, while sad, you do not see me protesting such!

Why?

Because they are not using their political connections to try to force me to finance their homes!

Further, we all know development will happen. But we also understood it would happen from the centers of existing infrastructure out.

But now, development interests in government are willing to force existing home and property owners on to sewers for no other reason than to grease the skids for more development into rural areas.

Which only makes sense and profit for a few "connected" realtor/developers! There are already hundreds of homes that are not selling around this county. To add more homes, at subsidized prices, would only exsacerbate that problem.

Forcing existing homes on to sewers at tens of thousands of dollars will further leave these homes unmarketable!

So please, how about offering some real solutions to "YOUR" development problems, minus the need to force others to contribute their savings to your projects and without over-taxing our infrastructure to pad your bottomlines!

Anonymous said...

"As the good book says- God will provide."

God provided us with the intelligence to be good stewards of his land and wildlife!

Land planning is a necessary aspect of good stewardship!

Anonymous said...

"The majority of the comments on this blog offer no educated reasoning rather personal attacks, complaining, just flatout stupid talk."

Please enlighten us with some real alternatives, maybe without the utilization of your usual "Boogy Men" remarks or that everyone is "Anti-Everything" if they are not for trashing completely the zoning laws and regulations!

Anonymous said...

We need to develop rural land, because our "politically connected" do not wish to spend "their" capital on land zoned business or residential!

And now, with their ability to force others to subsidize sewers, wherever these developers deem fit to build, nothing and no one can stand in their way!

They will even do their best to "fix" elections to keep control of the process that permits them to dip into all our savings, whenever they need another hand-out!

Anonymous said...

"We need to develop rural land, because our "politically connected" do not wish to spend "their" capital on land zoned business or residential!"

Well Said!

It's all about money. Make them use there own money...

Anonymous said...

correction:
Anonymous said...
"We need to develop rural land, because our "politically connected" do not wish to spend "their" capital on land zoned business or residential!"

Well Said!

It's all about money. Make them use their own money...

cc said...

With development, they can only use their own money for the initial setup. After the land is bought and the home is built and the road is accepted, then the taxpayers are the maintainers of the infrastructure including emergency services and schools.
To stop all development is foolhardy, as teh population within a community- even if no one immigrates in - will grow. To remain stagnant and only allow insiders to live in a community is unwise also. (You need some new blood to marry into the community!)
However to outpace the finances of a community with growth that is too rapid or FORCED- is what most of the Dearborn County community is "railing" against.
One of the Plan Commission members called it "pace and place"- put development in the appropriate place and at the appropriate pace for the community to fiscally handle it.

Anonymous said...

"One of the Plan Commission members called it "pace and place"- put development in the appropriate place and at the appropriate pace for the community to fiscally handle it."

And it would certainly be nice if those involved in the planning of this "pace and place" in local government would let everyone know what they are planning, unlike the NW Quadrant debacle where there were realtors canvassing the area trying to buy farm land at farm land prices with their inside information, before the owners of this land had any idea what was transpiring!

It should not be the task of local government to see to it that realtors and developers profit at the expense of those who own the land!

Obviously, informing the County Citizens in the NW Quadrant would have raised the price of their land, if they were willing to sell it, making less profit for the realtor/developer!

But this County does not owe the realtor/developer any more than it owes the County Citizens of the NW Quadrant!

At least that is the way our government should handle such matters!

But with development interests so prominent in local government, all energy was focused on the profits of those involved in development, even if other County Citizens were left with less!

Anonymous said...

But with development interests so prominent in local government, all energy was focused on the profits of those involved in development, even if other County Citizens were left with less!

You would think that realty/development was the "ONLY" business or industry in Dearborn County, relative to the amount of time and resources our local officials give to it!

Anonymous said...

Those of us who live out in the "sticks," near East Jesus, thought we were safe from any type of "dense" development, due in part to the costs to a developer, or developers, of running sewers so far from existing infrastructures.

Never in a million years would we have imagined that our local government had become so corrupt, as to force those of us already on functional septic systems, on to developers sewers, to help these developers with their dreams of making a "killing" buying up farm land to later have it rezoned to residential or commercial, by their accomplices in government!

Anonymous said...

To label me as “ANTI-EVERYTHING” because I do not wish to have to expend 10, 20 or 30 or more thousands of dollars to help subsidize a realtor/developer’s sewer, is quite a stretch and extrapolation by those who cannot afford to be players in the Local Development Game without disguised welfare payments, to “help them along!”

Anonymous said...

Some in local development, just cannot believe we have all this land that could be developed!

All they need is for the rest of us to buy them sewer treatment plants, supply them sewer lines(to wherever they can buy farms on the cheap), bigger schools, better roads, more police, fire and emts...and everything else that comes to mind to better these developers' bottomlines!

If we pay for all the above...they assure us they will do the rest!!!

Anonymous said...

Those of us who have lived here all our lives and those who have moved here over the years...

...are just getting "darned" impatient with the slow pace of development in and around this County!

I live out in the middle of "no where," I keep asking myself:

"Where is my traffic! Where is my congestion? Where is my pollution! Where is my higher property taxes? Where is my bill for excavation and the costs of the number of grinder pumps I would need to hook onto those friendly developers' sewers? Where is my ever-increasing monthly sewer bills?"

Enough is enough!

Anonymous said...

It is sad that those realtor/developers who post on this blog can offer no solutions other than name calling and belittling those who would rather not pay for their sewers or those who might question the need for the taxpayer to subsidize their business concerns!

How many times have we all read the “Boogy Man” response whenever these realtor/developers are at a loss to explain away their attempted theft from the taxpayers?

The majority of the comments on this blog from such realtor/developers offer no educated reasoning rather personal attacks, complaining, just flat-out stupid talk.

Sad!

Anonymous said...

"...just flat-out stupid talk."

That is all the realtors and developers have to offer!

Do you expect them to lay out an itemized list of why and how they are planning to tap into YOUR savings to provide for THEIR development?

Name calling is the ONLY safe harbor they have to sail into, during the taxpayer inspired storm they have called up on themselves!

Anonymous said...

They will even do their best to "fix" elections to keep control of the process that permits them to dip into all our savings, whenever they need another hand-out!

Thank you Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes for your unquestioning cooperation concerning such plans in the past!

We all will remember your efforts to thwart all those "STUPID" Republican primary voters in the last election!

Anonymous said...

"Thank you Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes for your unquestioning cooperation concerning such plans in the past!"

Not exactly "Reagan" Republicans...are these two???

More like "Leona Helmsley" Republicans!!!

Anonymous said...

Take away "Leona's" looks and charm and she could be mistaken as the "good" twin of our most recent County Commissioner, shown the door!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

You enjoy reading about yourself talking about Leona.

This is how weird you are.

Anonymous said...

"You enjoy reading about yourself talking about Leona.

This is how weird you are."

Huh!

The most cryptic post of the evening!

How many other thoughts do you feel you are being bombarded with relative to your "brain housing group?"

Anonymous said...

Don't be picking on leona. She is a role model for one of our most "civic minded" shysters around this town. Only little people need to pay taxes and only those with no political connections need to get loans to pay for the sewers of her buddies. Take away Leona's billions and what is left over is a local lawyer.

Anonymous said...

This is how weird you are."

How corrupt are you?

How is the DCRSD's funding as of late?

Has shame even kicked in yet?

Without politcal manipulation, you would be a fawn lost among coyotes!

And in your case, even Walt Disney would be "cheering" for the coyotes!

Anonymous said...

How is the DCRSD's funding as of late?

0.000000000000000000000000000000

Good things happen to bad people!

Anonymous said...

The worst thing that could have happened to a number of our County Developers was to associate themselves with both Realtors and Lawyers...two occupations that have no idea about the creation of "wealth," but only know how to place themselves somehow into stream of the transmission of wealth, picking off morsels like a welfare queen picking off food stamps!

Anonymous said...

Now the "bottom feeding, crumb muncher" realtor/developers, feeding under the taxpayers table, are starting to reach on the table to grab bigger morsels.

That's a NO NO!

How does it feel getting your hand stuck with a table knife?

The taxpayers want the "full fare" they've payed for!

Keep yourselves and your hands under the table where you belong!

Be thrilled when a crumb accidentally comes your way!

From the Enlightened League of PO'ed taxpayers!

Anonymous said...

How many dollars in total have the three more corrupt sewer entities, the DCRSD, the VRUC and St. Leon spent on lawyer fees alone to date?

It seems to this observer, at least locally, the more corrupt the sewer district or utility, the more they seem to need the extortion services and ethical manipulations of legal counsel!

Anonymous said...

L. Parvin Price, Lehner and Watson, thank their "Graven Images" every day for the very existence of crooked sewer companies!

cc said...

St. Leon may not be crooked- more likely they were the victim of their consultant engineers who helped them set up a large web of sewer lines in the area. 40 miles of sewer lines in what was essentially undeveloped area required that they hook on as many as they could.
Now if they'd been gravity lines- they would have covered far less mileage and we wouldn't be seeing this forced hook-up debacle- as it wouldn't be necessary.

Anonymous said...

L. Parvin Price, Lehner and Watson, thank their "Graven Images" every day for the very existence of crooked sewer companies!

The admiration of like minded crooked associates, is mutual I'm sure, between these sewer entities and attorneys!!!

Anonymous said...

"Look where it is headed now

NO WHERE


NO WHERE"



Would you have rather had us all going "SOME WHERE," like the bank, to get loans to pay for "YOUR" sewers???

Question! said...

I see form the dearnorncounty.org site that we have three Commissioners, and seven county council members.
How does the county power structure break down. Which group has the power?
Thanks in advance for your response.

Anonymous said...

oops! sorry for the spelling errors.
I should read before sending.

Anonymous said...

Let the the Land Use Map be adopted so it will allow the developers to proceed with development. Therefore, the people that do not welcome development cannot say a thing. Rezonings will be more viable, new sewers can be layed and development will accelerate.

Anonymous said...

YEA

Anonymous said...

"Let the the Land Use Map be adopted so it will allow the developers to proceed with development. Therefore, the people that do not welcome development cannot say a thing. Rezonings will be more viable, new sewers can be layed and development will accelerate."

WOW!!!!!!

"Planned" development!!!!!"

Great!!!!!

Then the "heady" days of the realtor/developer buying up the first farm that comes up for, then having his pals in government rezone such land and force others to pay for sewering said land, will finally be over!

Now developers can work with other developers to share the costs of sewering their respective projects, within the bounds of what existing infrastructure can allow, and they won't feel compelled (because development flunkies in government in the past made it so easy to do so) to steal from the rest of us!

And those developers who cannot compete within such a fair system...could look into job retraining!

Anonymous said...

YEA

Anonymous said...

I have been trying to understand how you think developers steal from you, but I can't figure it out. If I developer wants sewer they pay the utility company a fee for the sewer and then they pay the cost of installing the sewer. They also pay for the review of the construction drawings for the sewer.

Just because you think that things are corrupt in this County doesn't make it so. Just like...just because you think you are the only one that lives in this County, doesn't make it true.

Anonymous said...

YEA

Anonymous said...

I have been trying to understand how you think developers steal from you, but I can't figure it out.

If you live on a parcel of land capable of supporting a septic system, because of land mass etc, but a developer decides to build, for example, a subdivision in your area, but cannot afford the costs of running sewers out to his/her subdivision, it is theft when he/she uses his/her political connections to force you on to HIS/HERS sewers to subsidize such sewers!

One day your septic system is "legal," the next day, you are required to hook onto sewer and the only variable in the mix is that a developer now wishes to "densely" develop land in your vicinity!

Thus forcing you to pay all the costs of excavation, grinder pumps, hook-up fees and whatever the sewer rates may end up being.

For a “sewer” connection you did not legally need nor for reasons of public health...require!

And thus…again…you are left with theft!!!

I hope that better aids your understanding of what a hand-full of realtor/developer/banker/lawyers have been attempting to do, to your neighbors!!!

Anonymous said...

YEA

I GET IT NOW

THEY WANT EVERYONE ELSE TO FINANCE THEIR DEVELOPMENT

VIA THEIR POLITCICAL CONNECTIONS

WHAT A RACKET

HOW CAN THEY SLEEP AT NIGHT

Anonymous said...

"...the only variable in the mix is that a developer now wishes to "densely" develop land in your vicinity!"

Ha! Ha! Ha!

How funny is it that only those home and property owners who are nearby, or between, a new development or subdivision and a sewage treatment plant seem to be experiencing "septic system" emergencies!

What are the odds???

Anonymous said...

I have been trying to understand how you think developers steal from you, but I can't figure it out.

"GEE, OFFICER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU THINK I STOLE THIS CAR...WITH THE DRIVER'S SIDE WINDOW SHATTERED, A SCREWDRIVER STUCK INTO THE IGNITION AND THE FACT THAT I'M A THREE TIME LOSER AND MY NAME IS NOT ON THE REGISTRATION?

Anonymous said...

"HOW CAN THEY SLEEP AT NIGHT"

Divide the number of hours they sleep in a month, by the number of those they sleep with in a month, further divided by the number of those they even know the name of those they sleep with in a month...

...and you will have your answer!

Anonymous said...

3:31 PM

Typical nonsensical answer

Anonymous said...

3:51 PM

Another typical nonsensical answer

Anonymous said...

How does merely hooking on subsidize the development? We've all read about the guy that will cost $50K to get to the line, but that's always been claimed just to GET to the line, that doesn't explain how the line gets there. And it is my understanding that tap fees are not for line expansion. Where is the subsidation of the sewer?

Yes, I would call myself pro-development, but do not agree with the practice of "forced hookups". If your septic works fine, by all means continue to use it. I know nothing about the "failing septic system" situation so please don't throw that back.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I would call myself pro-development, but do not agree with the practice of "forced hookups".

Well, the DCRSD has every intention of not only "PRACTICING" FORCED HOOK UPS...THEY INTEND TO MAKE INTEGRAL IN THEIR FINANCING OF DEVELOPMENT'S SEWERS!!!

No development in your area planned, no need to force you on SEWERS!

Politically connected developer plans development in your area, all of a sudden your area needs SEWERS!

You are forced to hook on to such sewers, to pay "YOUR SHARE" of the these sewers...which "YOU" did not need or request!

The developers need to force hook ups to these SEWERS to PAY for these very SEWERS!

With out your guaranteed dollars, they cannot SEWER THEIR developments!

If it costs you $15,000.00 or 50,000.00 to hook up, the "politically connected" developer and his flunkies in government, do not care!

Just as long as YOU pay YOUR share of SUBSIDIZING the developer's sewer line, if not an entire new SEWER TREATMENT PLANT, to service this developer's development!

For example, the DCRSD has no means or plans to SEWER development other than by FORCING HOOK ups of existing home and property owners, presently on FUNCTIONAL septic systems!

No choice is offered to those they would FORCE onto THEIR SEWERS, to SUBSIDIZE development of another!

I do not know, how to make it any simpler for you!

Anonymous said...

Where there are no sewer lines or treatment plants with the capacity to sewer new development, the only way the developers and their patrons in public office can provide capacity, then lines to such development, is to "force" others to pay for them, via "enforced hookups!"

If you do not understand the basic premise of what "enforced hookups" is all about, you are either too thick to every understand, or you are a troll, playing games!

Anonymous said...

There are no lines or sewer capacity near the proposed development on 50 between Aurora and Dillsboro.

No funds are available to sewer this proposed development.

The only potential capital and collateral the DCRSD has to take to a bond bank, to finance these sewers, is the "forced hook ups" of existing homes on 50 and nearby secondary roads.

So if you are against "forced hook ups," you are against the very "existence" and "business plan" of the DCRSD!

Anonymous said...

How does merely hooking on subsidize the development? We've all read about the guy that will cost $50K to get to the line, but that's always been claimed just to GET to the line, that doesn't explain how the line gets there.

The line that "gets there" is financed by the "PROMISE" this person and others would pay for the sewer lines and treatment plant via their monthly fees!

Even though the homeowner who may be forced to expend $50,000.00 just to connect to such sewer, has not agreed to such a "PROMISE!"

But was swindled into such a "BARGAIN" by operatives of development on the Town Board!

Anonymous said...

"Yes, I would call myself pro-development..."

The, by all means, you pay for it...

...just do not force the rest of us to finance your sewers nor lines nor all the infrastructure required for your development!

We have hundreds of homes going unsold already in this County, why force those who cannot presently sell their homes to finance your subdivisions?

Anonymous said...

"We have hundreds of homes going unsold already in this County, why force those who cannot presently sell their homes to finance your subdivisions?"

Because all this talk of "Development" is not for the welfare of the public, but to line the pockets of a few realtor/developers, regardless of the expense to the community at large!

Anonymous said...

Don't ya just luv the idea that these development scoundrels always want to start from the premise that these sewers already exist and the very fact that others are forced onto the existing sewers is not the fault of developers, developers, who in reality, are using their politcal buddies to make the rest of us pay for these sewers in the first place. Unreal.

Anonymous said...

Of course, the developers are just hooking on to the very same sewers we all have the wonderful opportunity of hooking on to!!!!!!

The developers are as surprised as the rest of us that these sewers are making themselves "available" to all of us!!!!!!!!

In fact, since many of us will be "voluntarily" hooking on to these sewers in the 1st place, these developers decided to build a few subdivisions in our neck of the woods to help "lower" our over all costs!!!!!!!!

What a bunch "great guys" these local developers are!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey!

Development of cheap farm land...

...may not profit you...

...or your children...

...or your children's children...

...but...

...think of all the money it will make a few local realtor/developers...

...and the those "connected"...

...land title attorneys...

...who have situated themselves...

...as the "legal" guardians of all things County related!

Anonymous said...

So how many of you are coming to the master plan public hearing?

Anonymous said...

Still no real answer on how the line GETS THERE. Closest thing was someting along the lines of the monthly fees cover it, but the monthly fees are for the service itself.

I saw a lot of quotes referencing that post and no answers, just a lot of CAPITAL LETTERS and !!!!!!!! and ......

Anonymous said...

"Still no real answer on how the line GETS THERE. Closest thing was someting along the lines of the monthly fees cover it, but the monthly fees are for the service itself."

System developement fees to cover the sewer lines and processing pro-rated over 25 to 30 years (any legal time frame). That way the development will pay for its own upgrades and not force others not needing the service to pay. The same will work for Highridge, Gabbard, Guilford, Dendridge and Stewart street.

And last but not least, the taxpayers don't need a DCRSD in the middle SCALPING ADDITIONAL FEES to promote the developer/realtor new housing developments while pretending to fix polluting areas!

Dissolve the DCRSD!

Stop the scalping of taxpayer money!

Anonymous said...

Monthly fees pay back the bonds or loans that built the sewer treatment plant and lines in the first place.

Which is why "politically connected developers need to get "everyone" to hook on to their sewers to service development to lower the developers' overall costs!

Without forced hook ups there would be no lines nor sewage plant!

Sewage plants and infrastructure are built by loans...which are "paid off" through monthly fees!

However, if a developer cannot force others to "share" the cost of a new sewage plant and lines and he does not want to pay any more money out his his pocket, then no sewage plant nor lines!

So what do developers do?

They get on sewer boards to try force others to subsidize their developments!

Anonymous said...

Right now, on 50 where some of this proposed development is...there are no lines nor sewer capacity to handle these development. Further, there are no developers willing to shoulder the entire burden of building a sewage plant and running lines. So developers devise schemes such those on the DCRSD to force those on existing, functional septic systems on to the developers' sewers to lower costs for the developers' development! As selfish as some of these developers are they do not care that this would force many to remortgage their homes and properties to pay for such sewers!

Development...at any taxpayer cost!

Anonymous said...

"Development...at any taxpayer cost!"

This is the main reason to:

Dissolve the DCRSD NOW!

Anonymous said...

I am a taxpayer. Quit speaking on my behalf.

Anonymous said...

"I am a taxpayer. Quit speaking on my behalf."

Nooooo!!!!!!!

More than likely...you are a politically connected "TAX-SPENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Anonymous said...

"More than likely...you are a politically connected "TAX-SPENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And how dare you get between your tax dollars and this "TAX-SPENDER'S" dreams!!!

This person has worked dilligently on devising ways to manipulate your tax dollars towards their bank accounts!!!

Often times through "SELF-LESS" public service and their volunteer work!!!

Anonymous said...

Would Board Membership on the DCRSD be "volunteer" work?

If so..."volunteer" work, in the end...seems to be very profitable for the "connected" few realtor/developers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"I am a taxpayer. Quit speaking on my behalf."


Spoken like a "piglet" whose snout is snuggly affixed to the "taxpayers'" teat!

Anonymous said...

There is a seminar in town this week on "How To Mine The Tax Payer's Pocket" sponsored by” Ewbank and Lehner Enterprises!”

For tickets, please contact Vera Benning.

Contact the DCEDI for seminar times.

Anonymous said...

The DCEDI???

Famous for pushing 8 million dollars of tax abatements for a company that cut, by proxy, hundreds of jobs from a local company, before purchasing that very same local company!!!

Anonymous said...

The sewers are initially paid for by tap fees and bonding. Bonds are simply a loan to the sewer board that must be paid back over time by the people connected to the sewers, above and beyond the service (treatment) they use. If there are too few people forced to pay for the sewer the cost for each house goes up accordingly. If only the developers are paying for the sewers the first cost is very high, plus the monthly fees will be so high, no one will buy their houses.

The rest of the costs the homeowner is forced to pay are those incidental costs to put pipe in the ground, a grinder pump, electric and abandonment of the septic tank. They don't cost the sewer board anything. They do cost the homeowner, so they can get to the sewer line to tap in and to push the sewage to the line after they are tapped in.

Without the tap fees and bonding, the developers couldn't make much profit.

And this does not even consider the costs to improve the roads, schools, police, fire departments, EMS county administration and jails to support the development, nor the increase in utility costs, like electric, to build new lines or upgrade existing lines.

Let the developers pay all their related costs and see if the will buy up 'cheap' undeveloped farm land out in the middle of NO WHERE.

Anonymous said...

"Let the developers pay all their related costs and see if the will buy up 'cheap' undeveloped farm land out in the middle of NO WHERE."

Or developers that try to OVERBUILD in areas with sewers and a master plan that prohibits the overtaxing of the existing infrastructure (roads,schools, police, fire and emergency services).
These type of developers are modern day "Getto Builders".

Anonymous said...

"...will buy up 'cheap' undeveloped farm land out in the middle of NO WHERE."


"NO WHERE" is a relative term when you have the power to coerce others to pay to make your "NO WHERE" into a "SOME WHERE," sewers and all!

Anonymous said...

"These type of developers are modern day "Getto Builders"."

Eight feet between clustered " spit and hit" houses eats up infrastructure that will be a big drain on the county taxpayers IF the commissioners let this type of development take place without the Developers paying their fair share of the cost.
The farther from EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE that the "clustered developments" are allowed the greater the cost and burden the taxpayer.

Anonymous said...

"The farther from EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE that the "clustered developments" are allowed the greater the cost and burden the taxpayer."

But...but...but...Dearborn County is "ripe" for development!

When Development's movers and shakers lose their two remaining commissioners, the taxpayers will no longer be "ripe" for the picking!

Anonymous said...

"'When Development's movers and shakers lose their two remaining commissioners, the taxpayers will no longer be "ripe" for the picking!'"

The first thing that needs to be done is their "Right Arm" the DCRSD needs to be dissolved.
Then the 2 Commissioner enablers will be greatly disabled.

Anonymous said...

That means get rid of pollution
Thompson now before we get a visit
from Al Gore

Thompson has no respect for Mother
Earth

Anonymous said...

Thompson has no respect for Mother Earth

Vera, you have done lost your mind!!!