Thursday, November 08, 2007

7 November 2007 Dearborn County Commissioner Meeting Notes

7 November 2007 Dearborn County Commissioner Meeting Notes

Present: Hughes, Chairman, Fox, and Thompson
Also present: Pickens, Auditor, and Messmore, Administrator. Frank Kramer attended for Bob Ewbank, Attorney.
A uniformed police officer was present.

Kuebel Road concerns remain tabled.

Judge Sally Blankenship expressed about 8 concerns about the current court facilities including:

Probation facilities, which are not set up for confidential interviews.

Restroom facilities where the public and prisoners getting drug tests share the same facility

Courtroom not big enough for jury trial – and when using the commissioner’s room for jury trials there are no facilities to sequester the jurors as needed.

Grand jury investigations can be overheard by health dept office

On heavily docketed days, witnesses don’t fit in court and halls are clogged

Only one EXIT- concerned about fire code

No spare room for attorneys to meet with client in dissolution cases.

Mainly concerned with the IMPRESSION we give- we are behind the times with inadequate facilities.

Blankenship asked commissioners what they wanted her to do. Hughes said we were looking into it but didn’t have a solution yet. Maybe move that court offsite. Blankenship said maybe probation could do that but court needed to be in the building. She said she’s always worked well with everyone in the past. Thompson said- there is nothing you can do yet. We are looking at RQAW and video arraignment. It’s not just you- there are many offices with needs there.

Blankenship said the court has the ability to ORDER some of this and she didn’t want it to come to that. She said we could get a local contractor to build something over in the parking lot area. She noted it would take TWO YEARS to get this done, even if we started now. NO DECISION.

Barth Engineering- John Graf presented the Collier Ridge report. The final thought on these 4 alternatives was to go to Council and get $500,000 to phase in the fix as in Option 3.

Alternative 1 completely realigns Collier Ridge to a new roadway with a new RR crossing and a new Bridge to Bonnell for a total cost of $4.705 million.

Alternative 2 moves Collier Ridge, requires 2 new bridges, and has better site distance at Bonnell. It’s better safety-wise. Total cost $3.325 million.

The 3rd option realigns they road closer to the original bed except near the RR and bridge area requiring those to be built. Its advantage is that it can be phased with the first phase costing about $500,000. Total cost of 3 is $2.93 million.

Option 4 reroutes the road over the hill to meet Bonnell much further down. It requires 2 new bridges. Cost is $4.06 million.

There was much discussion of needing more soil samples to determine actual costs as this is still unknown strata. Graf said they recommend Alt 2 and then 3, in that order. Alternative 2 has better safety and goes behind the barn and house. It also has less grade. Alternative 3 can be phased in but requires taking the house. It gives access to the lower area and existing bridge.

Thompson kept asking about timing on each project. There were concerns about road closing and safety in the construction and pre-construction times. Neighbors are pushing for concrete barriers to be put on the edge to prevent anyone going over the side in bad weather. [NOTE: Perhaps it should be closed for those times.] There are issues with costs of barriers and equipment to place them. There are issues with flagging costs at $800 per day for some of the construction if railroad is involved. The current iron bridge has about a 5-year life expectancy and a 10-ton load limit. The other bridge has 18 years.

Federal aid could be used on Option 2. Local money has to be used on Option 3 because of the grade. It is clear that federal money is several years out IF it could even be captured. Listerman was told to get the barrier options and blind spot option specified and bring all to the Nov 20 meeting for a decision. Next step is to get soil borings and go to Council to seek funding.

Moores Hill Town Board request for use of HWY Dept frequency- no one showed up.

Sandy Leptak- Health Dept- informed commissioners that Dr Frable had resigned last year for health reasons and Dr Eliason was filling out his term Commissioners are open to reappoint him for a 4 –year term in January.

Vital records fee increases will be sent to Ewbank for ordinance requirements to take effect in January. Birth and Death certificates will be $10, Paternity affidavits $15. Affidavit of amendment will be $5.

Commissioners ratified the Lifting of the No Burn Ban.

Med Ben meeting will be Wed Nov 14 per Messmore.

The 2008 Holiday calendar was approved with 2 changes: To get a 4-day weekend employees will be off Dec 25-6 and Dec 31- Jan 1.

Sheriff Lusby opened 3 bids for food service: US Foods, Ellenbee Leggett, and Gordon. He will come back with recommendations next meeting.

Todd Listerman, Transportation Director, gave a 5- minute report. He will get other options to the concrete barriers and look at owning vs. leasing.
The HVL manager verified that Kathy Court, Par Dr, and Golfview were privately maintained by HVL and so commissioners voted to remove them from county maintenance lists.

Certified letters were sent to property owners on private drives to see if they will dedicate appropriate land for 50 ft of ROW to stay on county maintenance. They have until Nov 16 to respond. He will get list to commissioners after that.

Pickens- Auditor- Claims approved (did this include a $25,000+ payment to London Witte per newspaper listing?)

Pickens was approved to sign for the $75,000 stopgap on the health insurance.

Commissioners re-signed the Harrison contracts as the original was “lost”

Pickens brought up the State Board of Accounts write-up on the county payroll being non-compliant with state code. This has been ongoing but apparently the past year resulted in 2 cases where employees quit and were paid for work NOT done. There was no accrued sick or vacation pay to cover the days paid. There were several employees and Sheriff Lusby spoke also trying to find a way to not “hold back a week’s pay.”

Lusby said this only became a problem with direct deposit. He used to hold back checks on employees who hadn’t worked the days he had pre-certified and then have a check re-issued. He also did this to assure employees returned county property when they quit. County could file civil suit to get their money back or criminal charges if the employee won’t refund the pay.

Thompson asked- How does that get us into compliance?

Lusby said he feels bad that they might be taking money from employees that worked here before 1985. (Employees keep insisting they were docked a week’s pay when they started to work. They have no records to show this)

Pickens replied- we are not taking any money- we are just paying them post working rather than pre-working. Thompson reiterated this. Lusby said he would work on a way to help cushion the blow. Some of the highway is paid 2 weeks behind. (How did THEY get on that schedule?)

What is supposed to happen in the 1st payroll in January is that they will be paid one week’s pay. After that the payroll will have two week’s pay in it. The week they GET their check will be paid in the following payroll- continuously. At the end of their work for the county, there will be a paycheck that comes after they quit. It is easy to track this as each paycheck will show what time period is being paid.

It was very apparent that commissioners didn’t want to vote on this at this time- though it is also clear that payroll will have to change. Pickens gave them 3 months to prepare for it with notices in October. He also is doing it at the beginning of the month and many household bills are due at the end of the month. They also will be getting paid for 4 days holiday pay that was NOT WORKED at the end of Dec- early Jan. NO DECISION yet on whether they will phase it over 5 payrolls.

Meeting adjourned at 8:55 PM

Christine Brauer Mueller
Lawrenceburg Township

121 comments:

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

OK I give up- what is this in reference to?

Anonymous said...

"OK I give up- what is this in reference to?"

Watch what happens when someone is brave enough to sign their name.

Anonymous said...

Bully bullying the bullied...

...equals...

...Ewbank corralling Rick and Jeff!!!

HHM said...

Bullying is Blankenship threatening a Court Order to get a bigger, better Court room, so she can get the "respect' she feels she deserves.

She doesn't realize, you earn respect by your actions and demeanor, not threats.

In the meantime, who will be forced to fund the new Court mandated by the State? Apparently not the State! Guess that means the citizens of the County have to foot the bill.

Anonymous said...

Is council going to cough up the money to fix Collier Ridge? Or will the highway department be forced to close the road when it slides down the hill, or the iron bridge fails?

Anonymous said...

HONESTY
1-Without desire to steal,lie,et.
2-Genuine
3-Frank
INTEGRITY
1-Keep your word
2-Take the harder right over the easier wrong
3-Guard your principals
4-Do the right thing

Has people lost this!!
Most of the people in office has!!

Anonymous said...

WE THE PEOPLE need to get out there
this year vote.And vote for the people that will stand up FOR THE PEOPLE!! Like it was meant to be,Not for the ones that are for lining there own pockets.

Anonymous said...

"vote for the people that will stand up FOR THE PEOPLE!!"

And who will determine who are these people. The "Anonymous" bloggers on this site. Lots of luck!!!!

Anonymous said...

All Votes count...even those votes of those who post on this blog...anonymously!

As painful as that might be for you!

Each future vote will further erode your power in this County!

Many of us live our lives based on some form of self-reliance...

...many of us are growing tired of the handful of politically connected development interests in this County relying on our self-reliance to subsidize their businesses and lifestyles!

For example has Brett Fehrman proffered one alternative for sewering his subdivision that did not entail stealing from the taxpayer and/or those home and property owners surrounding his subdivision?

Anonymous said...

For example has Brett Fehrman proffered one alternative for sewering his subdivision that did not entail stealing from the taxpayer and/or those home and property owners surrounding his subdivision?

The Fehrmans believe that political connections are the life-blood of financial well-being!

Shake enough hands, get enough votes and the resources of the rest of us are the Fehrmans' for the picking!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

What office is Brett Fehrman running for?

Anonymous said...

"What office is Brett Fehrman running for?"

Any office or appointment to a board that will get him closer to our savings!

The DCRSD Board appointment failed to sewer his subdivision on our tab, now he will use his Council position to try once again to bully others to finance his development!

Anonymous said...

The obfuscation remains the same, however, the question still lingers:

Has Brett Fehrman proffered one alternative for sewering his subdivision that did not entail stealing from the taxpayer and/or those home and property owners surrounding his subdivision?

Anonymous said...

Where is Brett's subdivision?

Anonymous said...

"Where is Brett's subdivision?"

Maybe the big sign on 50 occludes your view of Brett's subdivision?

Someone seems to think that sewers are inevitable to service this “proposed” subdivision.

Explain to us all, smart ass, who will pay for the sewers to this subdivision…without forcing others…on working septic systems…to do so!

Or, are you back to the lie that septic systems are toxic to the environment?

Then, why would Brett be listing homes on such systems?

Enrich us all with your profoundly disguised wit and assurance!

Permit your narration to pick up again at how you are saving us from a toxic and noxious environment by forcing us to finance your subdivision!

Maybe, you could regale us all with more wild stories how your subdivision would pay for our new jail?

Or, just continue to piss yourself in retard glee with your childish and half-assed antics while you try to mask your proposed theft!

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Brett's subdivision does not exist...so we can all get back to fixing High Ridge's sewer problems without the added burden of paying for Gabbard Estates' sewers also!

Oh!

Happy Day!

Anonymous said...

Finally, without Gabbard Estates complicating the picture, Brett can finally roll up his sleeves and fix High Ridge and all its raw sewage flowing into our waterways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because, of course, the DCRSD is all about "saving" our environment and not about finding ways to stick it to the taxpayer to subsidize the development of the spoiled few!

Right?

Anonymous said...

"Because, of course, the DCRSD is all about "saving" our environment and not about finding ways to stick it to the taxpayer to subsidize the development of the spoiled few!

Right?"


Charlie "The Taxdollar Fairy" may take exception to such a proposal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The obfuscation remains the same, however, the question still lingers:

Has Brett Fehrman proffered one alternative for sewering his subdivision that did not entail stealing from the taxpayer and/or those home and property owners surrounding his subdivision????????????????????????????

Anonymous said...

A very simple question, yet remains unanswered.

Anonymous said...

Liz Morris is set to report on all the raw sewage flowing into our waterways because of defective "sewer" systems!

Just kidding!

Anonymous said...

Would Woodward and Bernstein kiss our local Developers' asses?

Anonymous said...

Will somebody write on this blog all of the subdivions being built in the past three years.

Where are they?

Where is this uncontrolled development happening?

cbm said...

Subdivision approvals are like money in the bank. Developers have passed several in the past few years and they have not begun to fill them.
I would not say they are uncontrolled as the Plan Commission regulates this. However there is a trend toward high density that is proposed in almost all of these. To the adjoiners on larger lots this is often labelled "uncontrolled" as it is out of character with their neighborhoods.

CBM said...

In answer to the above question- data from the Plan Dept posted May 17 2007 on this site (see May 17, 2007 archives for amore readable version)- Chris Mueller

Thursday, May 17, 2007
HOW MUCH LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION IN DEARBORN COUNTY?

How much land is available for residential construction in unincorporated Dearborn County?
Open Lots in Dearborn County- Data researched and provided to Master Plan Advisory Board by the Planning Office Staff:

Subdivision Name ./Total Number of Lots /Number of Lots Available


Bear Tree Subdivision /9 /Built out
Block Hollow/9 /5

Briarwood Estates /92/ 34
Brightwood Estates/ 114/ 9


Brookstone Way /114/ 104
Carlee Acres/ 10/ 4


Cedar Ridge/ 18/ 12
Chapel Thorne Estates/ 21/ 20


Colonial Acres/ 103/ Built out
East Dearborn Heights /19/ 14


Eden Garden Estates /16/ 7
Goldenrod Acres /17/ 7


Happy Hollow Estates /19/ 3
Harley Springs/ 87/ 18


Hidden Valley Lake/ 3109 /1398
High Ridge Estates /108 /61


Hill Springs Acres /18/10
Indian Ridge Estates/ 85/ 58


Long Branch Ridge /15/ 9
Manchester Farms /11/ 8


Miller Ridge Estates /9 /5
Mountain Meadows /167/ 29


Old Orchard Hill /105/ 46
Park Place Estates /78/ 25


Picnic Woods /281/ 25
Rocky Mountain Estates /129/ 44


Rookwood Estates /39/ 29
Seldom Seen Estates /109 /3


Shangri-La /232/ 197
Skeen’s Lands/ 11/ 6


Somerset/ 12/ Built out
Villages of Sugar Ridge /315units/ 203


West Miller Addition /14/ 2
Wildfire Estates/ 9/ 8


Woods Edge /15/ 10
*Lake Dilldear /204/ Built out?


**Harvest Ridge /198with44S /179with25 available in section 1
**Hidden Acres /295/ in for 2ndary approval


**Lawrenceville Farms/ 20/ Section 3 in for 9 lots
**Morgan’s Ridge Estates /190/ in for 2ndary approval


**Stonebrook Estates /122 /2ndary approval ready to expire
**Whitewater Pointe /136/ in for 2ndary approval

*Denotes open lots or units that must be combined for the purposes of building 1 house.
**Denotes subdivisions that have been approved on a preliminary basis, but have not yet completed the legal process to sell/transfer land.
This report does NOT include minor subdivisions or certified survey “open” lots nor does it include an estimate for the incorporated areas. These figures do NOT reflect lots that have been combined to accommodate improvements that are situated on platted property lines.

Anonymous said...

What is holding up the subdivisions is MONEY!!!

MONEY is so tight these days that some of our more unprincipled realtor/developers are busy devising ways to get the rest of us to finance and subsidize their development...such is the case of Gabbard Estates...a 120 lot proposed subdivision with no sewers!!!

Yet!!!

But Brett has been busy scheming ways to force others to supply his sewer needs!!!

Anonymous said...

I like the idea of high density.

100 lots on 33 acres is responsible growth more then 33 lots on 33 acres.

Less land used.
Less bus stops, hence less buses.
Utilities are installed and operating efficiently.
Sidewalks promoting walking.
Less roads contructed per lot

The thought process of 1+ acre lots is wrong, it creates more public facilities and maintenance for the county.

I would choose less cost to the county then concerns about character with neighborhoods.

Anonymous said...

High density would be anywhere a realtor/developer could get a good deal on farm land and along with the political connections to force those already living in a low density manner to subsidize such high density development!

As it stands today, it would seem no one realtor or developer can afford to sewer their developments without the use of political bullying to "force" our charity!

Further, you may save some on buses with high density, but what school would you bus all these new students to?

Anonymous said...

I would choose less cost to the county then concerns about character with neighborhoods.

How is high density subdivisions, such as the proposed Gabbard Estates less costly to the County?

Those "Countians" living around such subdivisions are expected to help PAY for these subdivisions' sewers, at great costs!

High density, coupled with forced hook-ups or forcing folks to PAY "their" share of these Developers' subdivisions' sewers is only "less" costly for the Developers!

It is quite "costly" for the rest of us!

Anonymous said...

High density can only be less costly to the taxpayer if such development grows out from existing infrastructure...not leaped-frog across the county as farms, no matter how far from existing infrastructure, come up for sale!

It is not the taxpayers' obligation to see that a few "connected" realtor/developers maximize their profits at the taxpayers' expense!

Anonymous said...

Our local Developers want the best of all worlds.

They want to buy rural land at rural land prices and then have the taxpayer pay the extraordinary costs of providing sewers out to these remote rural areas, increasing these Developers profits exponentially!

Anonymous said...

"Further, you may save some on buses with high density, but what school would you bus all these new students to?"

Where do you want our children to live?

Anonymous said...

Where do you want our children to live?

Have you seen the vast number of for sale signs around this County?

This is not about lack of housing...it is about bolstering the profits a few realtor/developers!

In fact, subsidizing subdivisions will only make those homes already for sale less marketable!

Anonymous said...

We certainly may need more housing for our children in the future...with all the money our "politically connected" realtor/developers want to steal from our savings, we will not be able to send our children off to college...so we better find a way to house more of them locally!

Thankfully, our realtor/developers will be able to pay for their kids' college educations...on our dime!

Anonymous said...

I am convinced that no matter what is said on this blog, some of you will have a problem with it because it is not made of your wat of thinking.

You remind me of the mean old person just pissed off at the world. The kind of person that wouldn't let a child retrieve their ball out of their yard.

A person who is convinced that somebody is trying to screw them.

Anonymous said...

What is Brett trying to do by forcing others to subsidize his sewers for Gabbard Estates?

Enrich their lives?

Your problem is, unless the rest of us just roll over and let you pick our pockets, you label us "do-nothings" and "anti-everythings," when the truth be told, we just want you to pay your own way, without all your political bullying to coerced the rest of us to be your financiers!

Anonymous said...

Fehrman could, like the rest of us, build homes on enough land to provide for an adequate septic system for each of his homes in is subdivision.

But the big dollars are in cramming 4 homes to an acre, so he needs sewers, but he has not the resources to pay for such sewers, so he is doing his best to squeeze those dollars from surrounding home and property owners of his proposed subdivision!

Anonymous said...

I would like to have more land for my farm. Maybe I should run for office or get appointed to a board to force my neighbors to finance my future land acquisition desires and wishes? I could use the premise, as I am picking my neighbors’ pockets, not only do our children need homes, they need food! And it would be a crying shame if the do nothings and anti everythings keep me from goal!

Anonymous said...

"You remind me of the mean old person just pissed off at the world. The kind of person that wouldn't let a child retrieve their ball out of their yard."

So, you are well aquainted with Herr Benning?

Don't be so harsh on her...she is as much crazy as she is mean!

She can't control her mean streak!

Anonymous said...

You remind me of the mean old person just pissed off at the world.

No!!!

We are just pissed off at you and your small band of thieves!!!

Anonymous said...

95% of the opposition to Brett's subdivision would evaporate overnight if he would find private and willing backers to pay for HIS sewers!

But as long as he remains on course to try to "force" the rest of us to to back his schemes, he will continue to feel the sting of opposition, no matter how much he whines or him mom protests!

Anonymous said...

him = his

Anonymous said...

Sadly, Brett and those in his company, keep trying to abjectly rationalize their objective crooked conduct as somehow subjectively as being public benefactors of us all.

May they wake up before it is too late.

For them and those innocents whose lives they may soon ruin.

Anonymous said...

What Drama.

Anonymous said...

The Theater of Dionysus is nothing as to the Drama played out by our County’s realtor/developer lesser thieves and legal/rapscallions!

To mention their names is to spit acid into a head wind!

Anonymous said...

What Drama.

So shrieks the all so ordinary thief trying to redirect the authorities' attention to yet another nearby petty criminal!

Anonymous said...

Don't mention "innocents" in the company of the Fehrmans, Maxwells, Ewbanks and Lehners...it leaves them with a brief and momentary tingle of conscience...too soon to be shaken off by the smell of a stripper's well-earned dollar!

cbm said...

Let's get back to the point- is there- or is there not- uncontrolled development here?

And are we providing enough to take care of our annual influx of new people wanting to live here and also the children of those already settled here?

Whether it be dense or not- we need a DIVERSE mixture of housing stock, because we want to retain and attract a DIVERSE population.
So - for teh sake of argument- can we say we will have several kinds of development and we will put the denser ones closer to the cities?

A neighborhood's character IS important- so important that it is part of state code on one of the criteria for zone change and one of the criteria for development approval.
The idea of choosing less cost to the county over neighborhood character is not an absolute. You hav eto think long term- you destroy character- then you become a suburban ghetto- and that will become costly in the long run.

Anonymous said...

Suburban ghettos are only "costly" to those who presently inhabit them, not the profiteers of such ghettos!


Such “profiteers” will be the recipients of the DCEDI’s “Movers and Shakers” Awards!

Anonymous said...

"you destroy character- then you become a suburban ghetto-"

Amen and only the people of those communities care. The community outsiders and the realtor/developer seem not to care about the future problems high density causes. They care about money. Just get 95%of the units sold and leave. Leave the problems to the property owners/associations. Leave the problems to the governing bodies.
If the governing bodies do their jobs in preventing these forseen problems with high density developments they are harrassed to no end. Just look at the Greendale election race and what led up to this debachle. High density developments that the people have legislated against were questioned and tested for a long time before the election. The high entity developments refusal brought on an onslought of dirty election tactics.

Anonymous said...

What Drama.

Translation:

"WE COULD CARE LESS WHO WE HURT AS LONG AS WE MAKE A BUCK!!!!!"

Anonymous said...

"WE COULD CARE LESS WHO WE HURT AS LONG AS WE MAKE A BUCK!!!!!"

So true! This time the people prevailed and the manipulators lost. It is good that connivers lost. In my opinion they lost more than money. They lost their credibility by showing their inscient illegal intent to sway an election.

Anonymous said...

"They lost their credibility..."

These low-lifes had no credibility among their own den of Low-lifes!

Low-lifes swim with Low-lifes to feed off their fellow Low-lifes’ scraps!

Anonymous said...

Would one, just one, County Council Member, question the DCRSD Board relative to:

"Is it at all possible, to stop the raw sewage of High Ridge Estates pouring into Hogan's Creek, with out the taxpayer being forced to pay for Brett's subidivision's sewers?"

Anonymous said...

Low-lifes swim with Low-lifes to feed off their fellow Low-lifes’ scraps!

Many of our local realtor/developers are filter-feeders...place a few of them in a sewage pool and soon thereafter putrid water would be made most potable!

Anonymous said...

Would one, just one, County Council Member, question the DCRSD Board relative to:

As Charlie "The Taxdollar Fairy's" head explodes!!!!!!!!!!

For the love of pie said...

I think we need to adress a serious concern and that is the pie-hating terrorists! Their dark hearts want to stop our way of life and our appreciation of pie and liberty!

Anonymous said...

Abroad, we have those who hate our pie...

...in country, we have realtor/developers always wanting a bigger piece of our pies!!!

Soon the terrorists and realtor/developers will be going after our wide varieties of cakes!!!

This combination of hate and greed...

...will leave us with nothing but a couple of flavors of puddings for our after dinner treats!!!

We can all hope that Brett goes on the Atkins diet...

...that would surely leave us more pie for ourselves and family...

...but undoubtedly...

...Brett will make a move for all our eggs and bacon!!!

Anonymous said...

"...Brett will make a move for all our eggs and bacon!!!"

Lehner has been retained as outside counsel to research if state statute permits the sending out of "forced" transference of eggs and bacon letters to all those persons which Brett may be presently coveting their poultry and swine products!

Anonymous said...

As Doug Baer's ears perk up at the very mention of "forcing" others to do anything!

Repressed brown-nosing hall monitor that he is!

Anonymous said...

For those who have no eggs and bacon to give to Brett, Lehner could recommend some DCEDI affiliated Banks to seek loans to purchase enough eggs and bacon to meet their fair share of Brett’s needs!

Anonymous said...

What is the news on the pornographic flyer sent out during the election? Very little has been said about it since the election. Is the investigation ongoing or has it been dropped?

Anonymous said...

Is the investigation ongoing or has it been dropped?

I'm sure our local Republican Leadership is chomping at the bit to find the "evil-dooers" who sunk to such deprived levels to get a development friendly crook into office!

Anonymous said...

Ewbank is efforting information on these "evil-dooers" to offer them a position on the "Re-election of Fox and Hughes Committee!!!"

Anonymous said...

Imagine if Hrezo would have been elected?

The residents of Greendale would already be receiving letters reminding them that their sewer bills would be going up ten fold and that the stated capacities of Greendale's sewer treatment plants would be going up twenty fold by the first of the month, just in time for the developments of Sammy and Jeff and Maxwell!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

And any and all money earmarked to fix HVL's crumbling sewer infrastructure will be placed in the "Realtor/Developer Benevolent Fund!"

Anonymous said...

I'm sure our local Republican Leadership is chomping at the bit to find the "evil-dooers" who sunk to such deprived levels to get a development friendly crook into office!

I'm not so sure.

Action speaks louder than words..

Anonymous said...

"Action speaks louder than words.."

Just as soon as the Republican Leadership finishes with their campaign end paper shredding chores, they will get right on with their investigation!

Anonymous said...

and that the stated capacities of Greendale's sewer treatment plants would be going up twenty fold

And the residents of Greendale would be encouraged to offer a big and hearty welcome to the new superintendent of Greendale's Sewers:

Floyd Ogden

Anonymous said...

So, what will happen with Hrezo's plan to incorporate more "Double Lick Creeks" into the overall sewer strategy of Greendale and the County as a whole???

Anonymous said...

Maybe Hrezo can work more with the DCRSD in their attempt to make Hogan's Creek the sister waterway of Double Lick?

Anonymous said...

"The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true, given the source, right?



The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed, and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the President. In essence, 2/3's of the citizenry just isn't happy and want a change.



So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, ''What are we so unhappy about?''



Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?



Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?



Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job?



Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time, and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?



Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state?



Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?



I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough.



Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and
provide services to help all, and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.



Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings.



Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler or intrudes , an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.



This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.



How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?



Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.



Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S., yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have , and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.



I know, I know. What about the President who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The President who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same President who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The President that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks?



The Commander-In Chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me? Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad?



Think about it...are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the "Media" told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day.



Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go.



They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig.



So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want, but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds, it leads; and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells , and when criticized, try to defend their actions by "justifying" them in one way or another. Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about "how he didn't kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way"...Insane!



Stop buying the negativism you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is exponentially more good than bad.



We are among the most blessed people on Earth, and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative.



"With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, "Are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?"

Anonymous said...

Wordie people bother me.
They have too much time on their hands.
Say more with less.

Anonymous said...

Actually that is a copy of an internet missive that goes around in forwards fairly frequently

jb said...

An ever vigilant electorate is necessary to maintain those freedoms we take for granted.
Without that- the lobbyists take over and our officials march to their tune rather than the public they are sworn to serve.

Anonymous said...

An ever vigilant electorate...get porn in the mail from development pervs trying to get their favorite corrupt political perv elected to office to carry on with certain and various perversions of the rest of this County's corrupt development pervs!

Anonymous said...

Some of our local Development Pervs really have an unnatural and and unhealthy attraction to Greendale's Sewer System!

Dirty! Dirty! Dirty boys and girls!

Maybe we could all chip in and buy each and everyone of these sad pervs their own, personal "Port-A-Pottys?"

And then, we can all just turn our heads until they are done satisfying themselves!

Yuck!

Anonymous said...

Hrezo seems to be the perfect match for DCRSD!

County Council Members...alot all the money required to retain Hrezo's services for the "good" of the DCRSD!

He will do wonders for the DCRSD's already stellar reputation in the County and region!

If there is a money left over, could you all find a paid position for Chuck Andres under the DCRSD's ever-expansive umbrella?

That would be great!

Anonymous said...

Charlie Fehrman:

"SOMEONE HAS BEEN READING MY MIND!!!!!!!!!"

Anonymous said...

22 ways to be a good Democrat.

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make "The Passion of the Christ" for financial gain only.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.

21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.

22. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers the day off on Christmas Day ..........but it's not okay to say "Merry Christmas."

Anonymous said...

"10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it."

Can you imagine how such a dialog would so totally confuse an interaction between Jan and Brett?

Brett:

"EARN IT??? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN MOMMA??? I THOUGHT THAT POWER AND INFLUENCE ALONE WAS ALL THAT WAS REQUIRED OF ME...MOMMA???"

Anonymous said...

Jan so wants her little boy to move into "High Society," even if it bankrupts the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.


How is it that liberals believe that the 2nd amendment and only the 2nd amendment empowers the government while all other amendments empower the individual.

Anonymous said...

"6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural."

Would a local politically active realtor/developer like to speak up regarding this point of argument?

This blog is open to all viewpoints!

No matter how nefarious may be your actions regarding the pilferage of our savings to garner you more profits for your underhanded developments schemes!

Anonymous said...

Ewbank is efforting information on these "evil-dooers" to offer them a position on the "Re-election of Fox and Hughes Committee!!!"

And when Ewbank is unable to keep these two "more" of his County "day laborers" in positions of artifical power," they will receive the same as Benning...a wink and a nod...maybe...while Ewbank passes them in line at the buffet tables of Golden Corral!

Anonymous said...

What does Lisa Lehner say to Vera when Vera approaches her, for a little light hearted chat at Golden Corral?

Lisa: "COULD I HAVE A FEW MORE ROLLS PLEASE?"

Anonymous said...

Lisa Lehner and Bob Ewbank...how can they sleep at night...considering how the took advantage of our mentally-challenged public officials!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Argumentum ad nauseam ?

What is the news on the pornographic flyer sent out during the election? Very little has been said about it since the election. Is the investigation ongoing or has it been dropped?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Joe Awad could step up and finally do some investigative reporting?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Morris could then do a hit piece on Awad for complicating her husband's term as Republican Leader?

Maybe Awad can join the ranks of all the "Do-Nothings" and "Anti-Everythings" Morris and Company are so fond of spouting off about when those self-same people refuse to open their wallets for our entitled, spoiled deveveloper class?

Anonymous said...

How come most comments bring out a comment on "Brett". Someone is either obsessed or in love!

Anonymous said...

Brett is the number one potential thief working in the County at moment!

Unless you have other information as to him finding "private" funding for his sewers for his subdivision!

If Brett would quit trying to devise ways to attach our savings for his personal business interests, believe me, all interest in that big momma's boy would end forthwith!

Anonymous said...

Remember, Brett is one of the leading obstacles to curtailing the raw sewage flowing from High Ridge into Hogan's Creek.

As a Board Member of the dcrsd, he will not even permit discussion of any alternative to fixing High Ridge's sewage problems unless it includes the costly addition of running sewers to his proposed subdivision!

Brett is working hard to patern the dcrsd after the development controlled old guard of the vruc, who permitted millions of gallons of raw sewage to flow into Double Lick Creek because the old guard vruc board spent so much time and money trying to benefit a few politically connected realtor/developers!

Anonymous said...

Does Brett need sewers to place 120 homes on the property with his big sign on it?

If so, how does he intend to sewer such a development without the existing infrastructure in place?

Who does he expect to pay for such infrastructure?

Let Brett clear that up for all of us concerned taxpayers!

Anonymous said...

Brett will tell us that our septic sytems do not work, which is why he is forcing us to pay for sewers...as he continues to list new and existing homes on septic systems and as his partner in crime and fellow Board Member, John Maxwell, continues to build homes on septic systems!

A scam is a scam is a scam!!!

Anonymous said...

How come most comments bring out a comment on "Brett". Someone is either obsessed or in love!

Don't flatter Brett...the only interest the public has in Brett is the unfailing and unquenchable desire he has for the public's dollars to garner enough resources to guarantee his financial well-being!

The public is frankly amazed at how low Brett is willing do go to be a “PLAYER” in Dearborn County as he continually tries to “PLAY” with the other people’s money!!!!!!!!

Brett is a very sad example…his enablers are very sick examples…of greed overwhelming humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Don't be pick'n on ole brett...he can't hep himself...he is desirous of being a big-time moneyman...but he has no money.................

Anonymous said...

Dense subdivisions, in the middle of a rural landscape, are in such high demand, that our local Realtors and Developers cannot find anyone willing to back their dense subdivisions...unless the rest of the populace is forced to "chip in" to finance these "HIGH DEMAND" subdivisions!

So it would seem...private, affluent and educated

Anonymous said...

private backers

Anonymous said...

do not wish to risk their savings

Anonymous said...

by financing losers such as Brett!!!

Which makes these private backers...

Anonymous said...

..."Do-Nothings" and "Anti-Everythings," by default, at least as far as throwing their hard-earned dollars at the likes of amateurs such as Brett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Present: Hughes, Chairman, Fox, and Thompson
Also present: Pickens, Auditor, and Messmore, Administrator. Frank Kramer attended for Bob Ewbank, Attorney.
A uniformed police officer was present.


Frank Kramer attended for Bob Ewbank, Attorney.

A tribute to the political, legal and extra-legal monopoly Bob Ewbanks has fought so hard to maintain, no matter the costs to the Citizens of Dearborn County!

No wonder these "Public" meetings need a "Uniformed Police Officer" in attendance!

Anonymous said...

Ewbanks = Ewbank

Regardless that Ewbank is certainly full of "S"!

Anonymous said...

Frank, just do the right thing and recuse yourself from this entire mess. Bob surely has not the scruples to do so.

If you do not step down, you will simply be fodder and filler for future legal ethics’ classes.

Anonymous said...

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.



People with guns = citizens ...... People without guns = subjects

Anonymous said...

"Brett" is mentioned over 40 times on this thread. My, what a popular person. Based on name recognition alone, he should run for governor.

Anonymous said...

There are several thousand lots already approved in the county that aren't being built upon. And there are a significant number of homes up for sale in the County. Why do we need more residential development in the County? And why are most of the houses low cost. Where is the diversity of housing indicated in Land Use Plan?

Anonymous said...

"Brett" is mentioned over 40 times on this thread. My, what a popular person. Based on name recognition alone, he should run for governor.

Brett would be equally as popular in prison!

But then, he would ruin his stay by trying to steal his fellow felons' smokes!

Anonymous said...

Why do we need more residential development in the County?

Because little stinkers like Brett have found a way to lower their costs per unit by stealing from the rest of us!

Anonymous said...

Brett popular?

There is a big difference between popular and infamous!

Anonymous said...

And High Ridge is still dumping raw sewage into Hogan's Creek!

A big thanks to all the dishonest politicians, board members, shysters and fellow enablers for making that happen!

Anonymous said...

Board Member Dennerline got his sewers to his trailer park...the DCRSD attorneys have made their dollars...and High Ridge is being held hostage by the DCRSD's Board until the County Council gives the go ahead to sewer Gabbard Estates. New Orleans' style politics in a midwestern, rural setting.

Anonymous said...

"There are several thousand lots already approved in the county that aren't being built upon."

Many of these realtor/developers are waiting to see how the St. Leon sewer suit will pan out and whether or not the DCRSD will be granted a license to steal from others to subsidize dense development in rural areas.

Anonymous said...

Since when has a realtor or developer become the enemy over an attorney?

Anonymous said...

Since when has a realtor or developer become the enemy over an attorney?


Cut a shyster or a crooked realtor or developer and what ooozzzes out is not anything remotely human!

Anonymous said...

Cut Ewbank and Bob orders Rick and Jeff to bleed!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Since when has a realtor or developer become the enemy over an attorney?

Most "enemies" work real hard at achieving such rank!

When it comes to finding ways to pilfer our savings to finance both his hubris and greed, Brett continues to work "vary" hard!

Anonymous said...

vary = very

Notwithstanding Brett seldom varies from his scheming ways!

Anonymous said...

"Since when has a realtor or developer become the enemy over an attorney?"

Since Lehner and Ewbank began selling their blood at the local plasma bank and blood bar, frequented by a few of our more ethically and morally anemic realtor/developers!!!!!!!!!