Friday, October 05, 2007

4 Oct 2007 DCRSD Meeting Notes

The following notes are provided in an effort to summarize the transactions of the meeting without editorial comment, except clarification of events.

4 October 2007 DCRSD Meeting Notes

Present: Chairman Enzweiler, Fehrman, Pruss, Dennerline and Maxwell. Adams was not present. Hankins has resigned.Also Present: Baer, Executive Secretary; Quinn, Quinn Engineering; Benning, Secretary; Frank Kramer, Board Attorney; Robert Hrezo, Hrezo Engineering; Jerry Jacobsen, SDRSD Board member; two Serenity Ridge residents; Dean Rogers, Umbaugh & Associates and Ralph Thompson.
Meeting started at approximately 7:00 PM in the Commissioner's Meeting Room. Meeting was not recorded.

Meeting Notes
Meeting Notes for September 6, 2007: Maxwell moved and Fehrman seconded, approved.

Treasurer's Report
$0.99 in Lawrenceburg Community Grant Fund.
$380.02 in RSD Savings Account
$61,741.61 in RSD Project Fund

Serenity Ridge
Have funds from 8 of 10 residents, who had committed. Stauts(sp) closed Thursday and would send his check tomorrow. Montgomery apparently will not be contributing. That would require an additional $860 from the nine residents, who have contributed in order to proceed. A resident was concerned about whether the project would proceed and whether she would get her money back or if it would go to the new resident if she sold her property. It was not clear in the current agreement.

A contract won't be let until the funds are in. DCRSD will send a letter out to the 9 who have contributed to add another $860. Once the money is in it will take about six weeks to get construction started. In response to the question of the impact on the non joining residents, Doug Baer indicated that when they apply for a construction permit, they will be required to connect. As soon as a contract has been let, the health department can release permits for construction. If residents sell the lots, there will be no requirement by the County for the Seller to disclose the situation to the Buyer. When the Owner gets ready to build, they will have to pay $7000 and the tap fee, at least if it is done in the next ten years. Will proceed with project, once all the funds are in.

Special Requests
None.

West Aurora Project

Quinn provided an update, the State Revolving Fund (SRF) currently is offering a 2.65% rate on a 20 year note (changes quarterly and would be locked at the preloan application). There are some income restraints on the funds.

To proceed the PER has to be approved and will require a rigorous public hearing and SRF would want strong public participation. Need 10 days public notice and 10 days after the hearing, and the meeting will need to have a transcript taken (by a court reporter)and attendance signatures taken. The environmental study will need to be completed and submitted with the application. If they can approve the design by December 7, 2007, it can be submitted to SRF for review (approx. 90 days). Final plans should be held till approval. Based on the Dec. 7th submittal, they can resubmit final design May 15, 2008, have final SRF review by July 15, let bids August 7 and accept bids by October 2.

The collection system design should be safe; but, the treatment plant may have issues. They will have to submit three options: No action, Treatment plant and Delivery to Aurora. Based on 300,000 gallons, that will serve approx. 140 existing homes plus 120 for the Meierjohan project - Gabbard Estates (the land with the Fehrman Realty for sale sign on it). The SRF will not pay for cleanup or land acquisition; but, if they roll it in with the treatment plant they should be able to get it covered.

Randy was talking to Fehrman and thinks Aurora may be able to accept flow to the Cochran Lift Station. They were unsure if IDEM would lift the agreed order or allow them to connect. If they go to Aurora they will have to pipe to Marsh Road. If it goes to Aurora, Gabbard will require a lift station by the developer. Aurora wants to rebuild the 6" line down the hill. Will cost approx. $700,000. This may be less than a treatment plant. A separate line will leave capacity for the Aurora Industrial Park.

Quinn was also considering cleaning out the lagoon (at Highridge Estates) and putting the plant there. They would have to pipe around the lagoon during construction.

The collection system would run along the north side of 50 to serve Susanna, Hoffman Road, Tabor Court, Walston and Huesman Road plus Gabbard Estates. They will need to keep a 100 foot clearance from the cemetery and will need an easement from a neighbor, which might be hard to get.

Quinn will proceed with the collection system design, which should be the same for both options.
The project cannot proceed until the money is procured.

Quinn will use lines on GPS drawing for public hearing, which will be scheduled for November 18, 2007 at the Aurora Fire House, if feasible. Then they can do final approval at December 6, meeting. They should have notice sent to the approx. 140 addresses for the public hearing.

Aurora Agreement
Aurora had agreed to bill the cost of the sewer service and sewer system cost with the water bills. They have started collecting from those already connected. However, they needed to modify the agreement to allow Aurora to charge a debt service to those who choose not to tap in (they will charge the households which do not connect, their share of the design and construction costs for the sewer system, even though they are not using it). They need to do this to show fiscal responsibility to SRF. Aurora cannot charge the debt service untill the agreement is modified. Maxwell moved to approve and Fehrman seconded, approved.

The line is turned over to Aurora and Aurora will become the enforcing agent. DCRSD is only concerned with the initial hook up, afterward hook up will be enforced by Aurora.

Fees have been being collected and DCRSD should start receiving funds the first of next month.
St. Leon

Maxwell and Enzweiler met with Leone(sp)about two weeks ago. They wanted to look at St. Leon again, especially the prices. Enzweiler wanted to authorize up to $2,000 to have Burgess & Niple to get with Leone and review the costs, prior to retrying the St. Leon agreement. Maxwell wanted to keep the St. Leon option on the table . He mentioned the TIF districts and two highway interchanges as possible reasons. They need to consider cost recovery models before going back to Council for money. They could get 10% of the TIF funds to help pay the costs.

Jerry Jacobsen expressed a concern that the taxes in that area paid largely for schools and he thought taking funds for the TIF would impact schools in the area. Rogers indicated the incremental funds would go to the TIF.

Rogers indicated they haven't done a model like this. He felt they could do some sample scenarios and basic assumptions based on their experience. Maxwell felt it needed to be analyzed for income before they went to Council. They would get 45% of the 300,000 gallon capacity for $2.44 M under current agreement, whereas in West Aurora they would get 100,000 gallon capacity for $1.4M. That's a much higher cost for St. Leon.

The advantage to St. Leon was questioned. St. Leon has reached 70% of current capacity and needs to expand. They would receive County funds to help that cost.
Enzweiler wanted to have the costs reviewed and wanted a way to guarantee or avoid costs or get money back, if load didn't arise.

The TIFs and the Quadrant could be places to expand. Jacobsen indicated he had a conversation with Senator Robert Jackman regarding the Honda plant in Greensburg. Sen. Jackman knew of no companies looking to site in the North West Quadrant of Dearborn Co and no history of any companies seeking to develop there in the past.

Maxwell moved and Dennerline seconded, all approved allowing up to $2,000 to review costs. Maxwell will call St. Leon to advise them.

New Business
Construction Wage Hearings
No action is required by DCRSD. All the information would need to go to the county and be heard all together if needed.

Claims
There was one claim for Quinn Engineering for services on West Aurora. This would be against the funds approved by Council. Baer will get with Tracy to set up the account. Quinn was requested to make the invoice more specific and be submitted earlier. Enzweiler also wanted the packets provided ahead of the meetings. They will be made available on Monday before the meeting for pick up by the members. The members will have to remember to bring the packets to the meeting. ?? moved, Maxwell seconded, all approved claims.

Appraisal
The status of the Walston treatment plant appraisal was questioned. Dennerline moved, ?? seconded, all approved to allow up to $500 for the appraisal.


Annual Regional Sewer District Association Meeting
Baer indicated he would attend on October 29, 2007. Anyone else interested would need to register by October 15. The conference provides a chance to talk to other districts to see what they were doing and how.

Rogers from the audience indicated he had been working with Benning and the collection of funds would put DCRSD on the State Board of Accounts 'radar' and audit. Accounts kept on Excel would not be adequate and he suggested DCRSD contact State Board of Accounts about acceptable software.

Jacobsen asked Rogers who he was. Rogers indicated he was with Umbaugh an accounting firm involve in government finance and bonding. Jacobsen asked if Rogers was paid. Rogers indicated he had not been paid, though he had been providing service on and off since before the sewer board began in 2002. Benning indicated Umbaugh has a contract with DCRSD and has not been paid because they haven't submitted an invoice.


Dennerline: move to adjourn.
Adjourned at approximately 8:30 PM.

Note: Prior to the previous Board Meeting an Executive Session was held. At the September 6, 2007 meeting the following item (in bold) was on the Agenda:
Minutes of Executive Session held August 16, 2007 Action, An Executive Session Was Held for the Purpose of IC 5-14-1.5-6.1-6(A). No Subject Matter Was Discussed in the Executive Session Other Than Specified. No Vote Required.

Note: The specific section cited: Sec. 6.1. Executive sessions may be held only in the following instances:..........(6) With respect to any individual over whom the governing body has jurisdiction: (A) to receive information concerning the individual's alleged misconduct;

This item was on the September 6, 2007 agenda; but, not mentioned in this meeting. No vote is permitted in an Executive Session.

Also, the following is excerpted from the same Indiana Code: (c) A final action must be taken at a meeting open to the public.

No action or comment was made was made at tonight's meeting on this issue, either.

Notes by Ralph Thompson and Jerry Jacobsen.

219 comments:

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Anonymous said...

"Jacobsen indicated he had a conversation with Senator Robert Jackman regarding the Honda plant in Greensburg. Sen. Jackman knew of no companies looking to site in the North West Quadrant of Dearborn Co and no history of any companies seeking to develop there in the past."

But, please, do not let these facts get in the way of Hughes, Fox and Jim Wests' assertions to the contrary!

The "Do Nothings," must have incredible impact across this entire state!!!

Those big, bad ole "Do Nothings!!!"

When reached for comment, Sen. Jackman responded: "Do Nothings, what the hell are you talking about????"

Anonymous said...

Note: The specific section cited: Sec. 6.1. Executive sessions may be held only in the following instances:..........(6) With respect to any individual over whom the governing body has jurisdiction: (A) to receive information concerning the individual's alleged misconduct;


Maybe the citizens of this County could get an "objective" legal opinion concerning this matter via Ewbank and Kramer?

Just kidding!

Anonymous said...

Is it true that Ewbank is leaving his "rightful share" of Dearborn County Government to his kids?

Let us hope his kids treat their County Officials as well as their "Masta Daddy" did!

Anonymous said...

Are we finally talking "real" sewers now, or still these sewers on the cheap, pressurized sewers and grinder pumps? If the County cannot afford the "real" thing, why bother with this pressurized crap, no pun intended? Unless, our only goal is to provide the cheapest means possible for a few of our politcally connected realtor/developers to make a buck, at our expense?

Anonymous said...

Let us hope his kids treat their County Officials as well as their "Masta Daddy" did!

And of course, we have all heard "masta bob's" subjects on County Boards and Commissions, singing late into the evening:

"Day is never finished, masta got me working, someday masta will set me free!"

Freedom comes with the endorsement by bob's subjects of the their democratic replacements!

Anonymous said...

"To proceed the PER has to be approved and will require a rigorous public hearing and SRF would want strong public participation."

As Fehrman and Maxwell's hands firmly clasped under the table, their eyes wide with disbelief!

”RIGOROUS PUBLIC HEARING! I THOUGHT WE DID NOT HAVE TO INVOLVE THE MASSES!”

Anonymous said...

I THOUGHT WE DID NOT HAVE TO INVOLVE THE MASSES!

No, that was the expressed impression of the republican leadership when the primary voters came out against their chosen stooge and patsy.

Anonymous said...

"Is it true that Ewbank is leaving his "rightful share" of Dearborn County Government to his kids?"


Say what you will about Bob...but he is the only political boss figure in this County with the guts to openly and publicly, year after year, commemorate the birthday of Spiro Theodore Agnew!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"Benning indicated Umbaugh has a contract with DCRSD and has not been paid because they haven't submitted an invoice."

Benning is allowing herself to be used once again...and by extension...the taxpayer?

What will this further vain exercise cost the taxpayer?

False flattery, directed to the gullible Benning, continues to cost the Dearborn County Taxpayers dearly!

Anonymous said...

No, this "Umbaugh" example is just more evidence that the real "COSTS" of the DCRSD will not be known until well after the damage its Board impacts all of us in the future, after the Principles are gone and protected by time and bankruptcy!

Anonymous said...

Thompson still stiring and spreading his usual lies.

That is the only way he can win

He is knocking on doors to stir up
enough folks to come to the Public
Hearing so He can give out his
autograph commissioner of this year

HaHa

Anonymous said...

"allow Aurora to charge a debt service to those who choose not to tap in"

So the people will pay for the sewers anyway? And have to pay for something they will not use?

Only government can force a Citizen to have to take something they do not want or need, or force them to pay for something, they do not get or use.

Still trying to force the Citizens to pay for their sewers!!!

Anonymous said...

"Maxwell wanted to keep the St. Leon option on the table "

Back to St. Leon. Could it be because Maxwell has all his development in that area? Anyone see a conflict of interest?

And Charlie Fehrman, who is going to help DCRSD get their funding, works for Maxwell! So now there is a Maxwell and Brett Fehrman connection for Charlie. Another conflict of interest? Or worse?

Anonymous said...

”He is knocking on doors to stir up
enough folks to come to the Public
Hearing so He can give out his
autograph commissioner of this year

HaHa”


And the erudite cultured political thugs of development give us all a piece of what is left of their small craven and timorous minds!

Anonymous said...

And Charlie Fehrman, who is going to help DCRSD get their funding, works for Maxwell! So now there is a Maxwell and Brett Fehrman connection for Charlie. Another conflict of interest? Or worse?

Dearborn County Officials, defund the DCRSD now, before the State Attorney General steps in and makes it clear to the entire State of what a corrupt and shady backwater burg we have become!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

”Still trying to force the Citizens to pay for their sewers!!!”


The DCRSD Board and their political enablers have been shamed to the point that they can no longer force “hook-ups” so now they are just going to force “payments” from the citizen/taxpayer to subsidize Brett’s sewers, giving up completely on the FICTION that our septic systems were all failing, which was a mere PRETENCE and FALSEHOOD from the very beginning of this realtor/developer FLIM-FLAM!

Anonymous said...

The taxpayer is already on the hook for enough cash to fix the developer mess which is High Ridge Estates.

Let us not force the taxpayer to pay for this all new mess Fehrman and Maxwell are putting on the taxpayer's plates.

Give the money to Dillsboro, let those "honest" folks there "fix" High Ridge's sewer mess.

And then, and here is the novel idea in all of this, let Fehrman and Maxwell pay for their own sewers, instead of forcing the rest of us to subsidize their sewers.

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD is all about subsidizing the development of the politically connected of this county, nothing more!

The rest was nothing but lies, lies and damn lies!

Anonymous said...

"so He can give out his
autograph commissioner of this year"

Better to give away autographs than the taxpayers' hard-earned tax dollars to Vera's Development Masters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Why not change the DCRSD to GEBS(the Gabbard Estates Benevolent Society)?

Anonymous said...

Dillsboro has the capacity to take on High Ridge, use the money alloted to pipe High Ridge's waste to Dillsboro and quit with all this nonsense of trying to find ways for the taxpayer to fund Fehrman and Maxwell's projects!

It is really quite transparent and embarrassing!

Anonymous said...

"...giving up completely on the FICTION that our septic systems were all failing..."

As Chuck Andres impulsively and compulsively clicks his ruby red slippers together:

“LET THEM BELIEVE THE FICTION… LET THEM BELIEVE THE FICTION… LET THEM BELIEVE THE FICTION… LET THEM BELIEVE THE FICTION…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"Maxwell wanted to keep the St. Leon option on the table "

Translation:

"DUDE...WE COULD STILL WORK IT...NOW FOLLOW ME HERE...WE COULD STILL WORK THE SCAM OF HAVING AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF RUBES PAYING FOR OUR SEWERS...AND DUDE...HOW GREAT IS THAT...HEY BRETT...DON'T BOGART UNCLE CHARLIE...PASS HIM AROUND...HE IS NOT A ONE TIME TOOL!!!

Anonymous said...

If Charlie Fehrman's address at the DCRSD last month with the intent of prolonging the corrupt sewer district was initiated by Maxwell or B. Fehrman, Charlie Fehrman is no better than the rest of the gullible group of public officials supporting the DCRSD. Charlie Fehrman is being lead by the realtor/developer group and has no place in our public leadership. He will not get my vote his next election and all the voters should be aware of his support of wasting tax dollars on the DCRSD.
The DCRSD should be dissolved. It serves very few people at the expense of the taxpayers. The reason the DCRSD was formed was to correct the sewage pollution caused by High Ridge Estates. After spending/wasting $400,000+ for studies it is no closer to solving the problem than it was when it was formed.

Anonymous said...

"...giving up completely on the FICTION that our septic systems were all failing, which was a mere PRETENCE and FALSEHOOD from the very beginning of this realtor/developer FLIM-FLAM!"

In the end, the DCRSD is about nothing other than lining the pockets of a few development interests in this County!

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD will take no action on High Ridge until its Board is assured that Brett and John's subdivisions and other developments are included in the fix!!!

The Taxpayer, by hook or by crook, are going to subsidize these two developers!

Anonymous said...

Come on man, lets hear about the forced sewer hookups.

I haven't got my dose of that today.

Anonymous said...

Come on man, lets hear about the forced sewer hookups.

I haven't got my dose of that today.

Anonymous said...

I haven't got my dose of that today.


Penicillin would not kill the “dose” you have in store for the taxpayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your kind should be isolated and quarantined from the honest, hard-working portion of the County population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Q: What do you a call a developer with no money to develop?

A: A realtor/developer!


Q: How does a realtor/developer
finance his development?

A: He runs for office!


Q: What does a realtor/developer call his "silent partner?"

A: A Taxpayer!

Anonymous said...

Don't give me that...tell me about the forced hookups.

Anonymous said...

Don't give me that...tell me about the forced hookups.

It looks like your side is losing the battle, does it not?

Could a second job or job retraining be in your near future?

Maybe we all could chip in and buy you a savings bond to help you get back on your feet?

Tell us all again how we are all drowning in our own septic system waste?

What next, will our savings accounts somehow become radioactive?

Will you and Maxwell show up in your lead-lined suits to save us from our "glowing" dollars?

Anonymous said...

Without subdivisions, how are we going to afford our new jail???

Anonymous said...

"Tell us all again how we are all drowning in our own septic system waste?"


What can the DCRSD save us from now? Maybe they can condemn our farms to save us from "undercrowding" our land?

Anonymous said...

"Sen. Jackman knew of no companies looking to site in the North West Quadrant of Dearborn Co and no history of any companies seeking to develop there in the past."


Come on man, lets hear about the how the "do nothings" and "anti-everythings queered the deal of all the industry coming to the NW Quadrant.

I haven't got my dose of that today.

Anonymous said...

I heard Chuck Andres may have some land for sale!

Anonymous said...

Come on man, lets hear about the how how selfish the rest of us are for not wishing to subsidize your development.

Throw in "jobs" also. Especially all those "jobs" created by a new subdivision.

I haven't got my dose of that today.

Anonymous said...

Come on man, lets hear about the how Thompson, all by his lonesome, caused the awful "status quo" that has enveloped this County.

I haven't got my dose of that today.

Anonymous said...

Come on man, lets hear about the how the Republican Party Leadership is not "owned" by Development, as they run another Development Democrat in the General Election.

I haven't got my dose of that today.

Anonymous said...

My electronic counter counted the words "forced sewer hookups" 10923 times used and the word "Subsidized" 5558 times used.

That's how much time you have. But you are entertaining.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know where Fehrman, Fehrman and Maxwell got the idea that the taxpayers owe them a living???

Anonymous said...

"My electronic counter counted the words "forced sewer hookups" 10923 times used and the word "Subsidized" 5558 times used."


I guess Pol Pot grew weary about all that constant talk of his relocation camps and killing fields also!

I guess the moral of the story is:

DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CANNOT STAND OTHERS CATALOGING THEM!!!

Anonymous said...

"That's how much time you have. But you are entertaining."

And you would also be quite entertaining, if you could find a way of not picking my pockets to fund your lifestyle.

I actually made a very nice profit last year, without running for office, rigging an election or buying a politician!

Give it a try once!

Anonymous said...

Well said.

Anonymous said...

I agree, it was very entertaining.

Anonymous said...

"I agree, it was very entertaining."

So tell us you your future plans, that do not include running for office, rigging an election or buying a politician?

Why don't you promise all of us right here and now that you will go "cold turkey" from using our tax dollars or coercing others to fund your dreams?

It may open up a brave new world for you!

Anonymous said...

He/she/it finds it entertaining, in the most remote and theroretical sense, of anyone making a dollar with out corrupting the political system. It must be an alien concept for he/she/it!

Anonymous said...

Maybe there is a "patch" this person can wear to help him with breaking his public thieving habit???

Anonymous said...

Maybe there is a "patch" this person can wear to help him with breaking his public thieving ways???

There is a high rate of recidivism back to their public thieving ways by realtors, developers and lawyers. Short of a radical frontal lobectomy. Sad but true.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha!!!

Anonymous said...

I would of thought that our local realtor/developers and their political enablers causing all these problems were already a few "lobes" shy of a below average functioning brain!

Anonymous said...

However, they needed to modify the agreement to allow Aurora to charge a debt service to those who choose not to tap in (they will charge the households which do not connect, their share of the design and construction costs for the sewer system, even though they are not using it). They need to do this to show fiscal responsibility to SRF>


When will the DCRSD's Board show some fiscal responsibility to the taxpayer?

Short of always trying to tap our savings!

Anonymous said...

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."
Mark Twain

The DCRSD is a lie. The truth is they are not a regional sewer district. It's a figment of their preception. The DCRSD is a users group using taxpayer money to support a misconception of county wide sewer needs. The county has a regional sewer district (SDRSD) with REAL infrastructure. There are 3 other sewer districts with REAL infrastructure. There is no need for another PAPER sewer district(DCRSD)which only adds their cost on top of the existing sewer districts fees. The DCRSD needs to be dissolved and the commissioners need to explore other ways to sewer High Ridge Estates and Guilford.

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD's job is to sewer wherever a realtor/developer/board member buys up farm land at rural prices...of course, not until other political operatives of these realtor/developer/board members rezone the land for their buddies!

Charging all those landowners nearby the necessary amount to save as much money as possible for these realtor/developer/board members!

Anonymous said...

IF YOU ARE SO SMART AND KNOW HOW
to sewer the county and make it a
safer healthier polluton free place
to live then sign the blog and let us know who you are so we can get
behind you and get this job done.

Anonymous said...

Thompson you get off on writting
must not have anything else to do.
Just keep causing trouble and causing trouble in Dearborn County
Commissioner \s in other counties
think you are a mess.

Anonymous said...

"...and make it a
safer healthier polluton free place
to live..."


Number one lie of the day!!!

Like there is any consideration of the public health and welfare coming from the DCRSD!!!

If it would permit more dollars to go into the pockets of a handful of "connected" developers...we would have fountains of effuence in every park and playground!!!

Anonymous said...

"Commissioner \s in other counties
think you are a mess."


And these very same Commissioners probably applaud your illiterate disposition and the fact that you are a hopeless and despondent drunk and harridan who sold her soul for a buck!

Anonymous said...

Just keep causing trouble and causing trouble in Dearborn County...for those trying to steal the taxpayer blind...trying to steal the taxpayer blind.

Anonymous said...

I saw Jeff Hughes and his wife at the Farmer's Fair. Jeff, were you trying to "get connected" with the local farmers or something? Your appearance looked quite comical with you and your wife dressed in bibs and straw hats. Seriously, what was the point? To show you really are a circus clown? Leave the dress ups to Quacky.

Anonymous said...

I've been thinking about the meaningless statements said, how the sovereigns of the county are ANTI-EVERYTHING. The people who are critical of the citiens (bosses) making the objections to their lsme brain ideas haven't any idea who has the last say.

I wish they would read the Declaration of Indepence and constitution of these United States

Anonymous said...

I've been thinking about the meaningless statements said, how the sovereigns of the county are ANTI-EVERYTHING. The people who are critical of the citiens (bosses) making the objections to their lsme brain ideas haven't any idea who has the last say.

I wish they would read the Declaration of Indepence and constitution of these United States

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD is not about offering the taxpayer a "duplication" of sewer services...just a "duplication" of sewer bills...to afford and amass the necessary capital in order for a few "politically connected" realtor/developers, on and off the DCRSD Board, to sewer their subdivisions!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Because of the mortgage crisis in this Country, we already have a glut of homes on the market that are not selling. No matter, the taxpayer is expected to throw good money after bad to subsidize a few of our undercapitalized realtors and developers to build more homes. County corruption in overdrive.

Anonymous said...

"Like there is any consideration of the public health and welfare coming from the DCRSD!!!"


The DCRSD and its enablers are already backing up from the fabrication that our septic systems are failing and deteriorating. Without the reliance on the untruth that the DCRSD is about public health, they now demand we give them our money outright to finance “their” sewers, no matter if we hook on to them or not. Ending up full circle of what the creation of the DCRSD was all about: Coercing others to sponsor the schemes of a handful Development Interests in this County with no intention nor objective as to matters of public health.

Anonymous said...

Our local "big time" Developers cannot afford to by land zoned residential or commercial, so we let them buy up farm land, at farm land prices and we rezone it for them.

Our "big time" Developers cannot afford to run sewers out to their purchases, so we subsidize their sewers for them.

What next, tax abatements for their "new" homes or commercial properties?

Commissioners and Council Members, do you see where this all is leading?

Anonymous said...

Commissioners and Council Members, do you see where this all is leading?

Yes! I know where this is leading! We are becoming a county wide charity for realtors and developers! The rest of us are expected to dig deep into our own pockets to permit the realtors and developers to fill their pockets! This is not about growing the economy or jobs! This is just a massive transfer of wealth from the powerless to the powerful!!!

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD needs to be dissolved by being unfunded.
The DCRSD is an unneeded layer of beaucracy.
The Commissioners and Council need to delegate a representative to work WITH (not against )the SDRSD and the 3 other sewer districts to form a sewer plan for the mutual benefit of Dearborn co. citizens. Working together the with established sewer districts will get the job done faster and with the best possible mutual equity for all involved. I might add "first and foremost" the taxpayers' tax dollars. The sewage expertise IS available "at Home" in Dearborn County and it needs to be explored , not chastized. The Commissioners and Council need to pursue this avenue with expedited vigor. $4 million, in experienced hands used in the proper mannor, can make a big difference in the health and welfare of Dearborn County.

Anonymous said...

"$4 million, in experienced hands used in the proper mannor, can make a big difference in the health and welfare of Dearborn County."

Just as long as we can get sewers out to Gabbard Estates, because, let us not forget the paramount reason for the DCRSD: To provide a means of sewering the countryside, for the profit of a few and at the expense of the many.

Anonymous said...

Has the DCRSD offered one alternative that did not include the sewering of a board member's subdivision???

Anonymous said...

I might add "first and foremost" the taxpayers' tax dollars.


I'm fairly certain that Bob Ewbank and Frank Kramer have already drawn up and filed a quitclaim deed giving any rights or interests we may have in our tax dollars to the DCRSD!

Anonymous said...

"The sewage expertise IS available "at Home" in Dearborn County and it needs to be explored , not chastized."

The DCRSD's Board would rather listen to the type of "expertise" offered by an L. Parvin Price!

Anonymous said...

Has the DCRSD offered one alternative that did not include the sewering of a board member's subdivision???

Yes, sewering VRUC by spending $2 million in the thoughts of constructing a parallel sewer main to Greendale's existing sewer main. Greendale was/has been serving VRUC transporting and processing sewage since 1995.
I might add DCRSD considered this with NO sewage treatment capabilities.
From the start,this alternative should never have been considered.

Anonymous said...

I'm fairly certain that Bob Ewbank and Frank Kramer have already drawn up and filed a quitclaim deed giving any rights or interests we may have in our tax dollars to the DCRSD!

If the Commissioners and Council don't fund DCRSD....the lawyers will not have a desire to pursue.

The money is under our elected representatives control. Without funding the lawyers WON'T work!
Case closed!

Anonymous said...

Yes, sewering VRUC by spending $2 million in the thoughts of constructing a parallel sewer main to Greendale's existing sewer main.


If Fehrman, Fehrman and Maxwell supported this idea, then it must have been in the best interests of the taxpayer and a far more economical alternative than what Greendale was offering up!

The altruistic trio always puts the taxpayers' interest first over their own selfish desires and pecuniary interests!

Anonymous said...

"The DCRSD and its enablers are already backing up from the fabrication that our septic systems are failing and deteriorating."

All the DCRSD ever wanted was our dollars to finance the development of rural land!!!

Anonymous said...

If Fehrman, Fehrman and Maxwell supported this idea, then it must have been in the best interests of the taxpayer and a far more economical alternative than what Greendale was offering up!


Not true. It was political BS like most of what has been said or tried by the group of users. If they have or have had ONE good idea I'd like to hear it.

Anonymous said...

"If they have or have had ONE good idea I'd like to hear it."

It depends how you define "good?"

If "good" meaning "good" for the taxpayer, well no "good" ideas have come out of the DCRSD.

If "good" meaning "good" for a small number realtors, developers and land title attorneys, well then, hell yes it has been "good" if not "great!"

Anonymous said...

If "good" meaning "good" for a small number realtors, developers and land title attorneys, well then, hell yes it has been "good" if not "great!"

How ironic, from its the very inception the DCRSD has been a pet project of a small number of realtors, developers and land title attorneys.

And now, by sheer happenstance, they will be the DCRSD's main beneficiaries.

What are the odds for something such as that!

Anonymous said...

"What are the odds for something such as that!"


The odds are that High Ridge Estates will never have its sewer problems fixed with these self-serving bastards in place, unless we all agree, at taxpayer expense, to run sewer lines to every farm in this County that these crooks can lay their hands on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The circumstances may necessitate the employment and service of a hostage negotiator to liberate High Ridge from the realtor/developers on the DCRSD's Board holding the populace of High Ridge captive until these self-same realtor/developers/hijackers' sewer demands are met.

Anonymous said...

Sorry folks, all aid to High Ridge must come through Gabbard Estates!!!

It is the RINO law of the land!!!

jb said...

WHO actually owns Gabbard Estates now?

Anonymous said...

WHO actually owns Gabbard Estates now?


Whoever it is, they seem to have a lot of pull in this county.

The DCRSD board always wants to include it in with each and every sewer fix offered for High Ridge.

Even if it costs the taxpayer a new sewer plant and forcing surrounding home and landowners to contribute to the cost of subsidizing Gabbard Estate's sewers.

Anonymous said...

Gabbard Estates is experiencing a sewer emergency...the developer cannot afford to sewer it without the coerced dollars from the taxpayers and nearby residents!!! We all must do our part to help alleviate the financial burden of being a developer in Dearborn County!!! Please do your part and vote for Fox and Hughes for Commissioners and Fehrman for Aurora Council and Fehrman II for County Council to insure tax dollars continue to flow to developments such as Gabbard Estates!!!

Anonymous said...

Their is some land for sale a mile down the road from my farm.

We need to make sure a realtor/developer buys this land at a rock bottom price.

And then we need to petition our public officials to rezone that land to assure the highest possible return for this realtor/developer.

And then we need to get up with all our neighbors to pool all OUR resources to get sewers out to this land for that realtor/developer.

To do less, would make us no better than all those "Do Nothings" who are "anti-everything!"

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD's map of those rural areas in dire need of sewers are all marked with little "For Sale" signs!

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD's map of those rural areas in dire need of sewers are all marked with little "For Sale" signs!

The DCRSD's Board also has stacks of MLS Listing Books "dog-eared" marking the coordinates of future sewer disasters in need of the prompt infusion of tax dollars!

Anonymous said...

The housing market is bad. Subprime lenders are auctioning houses at 1/3 discount to their loaned value. That's like a $200,000 house selling for $133,000.
The DCRSD needs to be dissolved. The Commissioners and
Council needs to to take an active roll in doing what the DCRSD was organized to do...correct the sewage pollution caused by High Ridge Estates and Guilford. The Commissioners and Council have the power to do this IF they want. They need to correct the DCRSD organizational mistake and correct those serious heath problems.

Dissolve by unfunding the DCRSD NOW!

Anonymous said...

Our local realtors and developers demand that the taxpayer shield them from any downturn in the housing market!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"They need to correct the DCRSD organizational mistake and correct those serious heath problems.

Dissolve by unfunding the DCRSD NOW!"



Yadda! Yadda! Yadda!

If we dissolve the DCRSD who will fix the sewer problem Gabbard Estates is now experiencing?

Do you think the taxpayers will voluntarily send money to Brett for Gabbard Estates?

Think man...think!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Benning indicated Umbaugh has a contract with DCRSD and has not been paid because they haven't submitted an invoice.

So, how many more "Umbaughs" are out in the wings with their "meters" running?

The DCRSD, the gift that keeps on spending!

Anonymous said...

"Do you think the taxpayers will voluntarily send money to Brett for Gabbard Estates?"

I'm thinking Brett is getting close to putting liens on each and every house in High Ridge Estates to sewer Gabbard Estates.

Since it is High Ridge that seems to be dragging Gabbard Estates down.

It is a downright shame that forcing the taxpayers to subsidize Gabbard Estates is somehow contingent on the "sewage" well-being of High Ridge.

What a topsy-turvy world we live in.

Anonymous said...

There is four million dollars floating around out their that could go a long way in meeting Gabbard Estate's sewer needs...

...but High Ridge, through outright extortion, is not permitting those millions to flow to the rightful beneficary, Gabbard Estates, until High Ridge gets their "piece of the action!"

SHAMEFUL!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Rodney Dennerline had it right:

WE JUST NEED TO BUY OUT HIGH RIDGE AND PLOW THEIR HOMES UNDER!!!!!

THOSE POOR FOLKS ARE BETWEEN A ROCK AND HARD PLACE, WITH A SUBSTRATA OF REALTOR/DEVELOPER GREED AND NEED IN BETWEEN!!!!!

Anonymous said...

And as Vera once said:

"THE DCRSD IS NOT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, IT IS ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE."

Imagine her surprise when High Ridge decided to get in the way of the DCRSD's "helping" Gabbard Estates getting taxpayer subsidized sewers!

What a small, little selfish world High Ridge residents must occupy!

Think of the "jobs" these High Ridge residents are stealing from the County!

Anonymous said...

We need a Commissioner that will look out for Gabbard Estates and will stand up to those "politically connected" users of High Ridge Estates!

Is there a potential Commissioner out there willing to stick up for the "little guy" realtor/developer/banker/lawyer???

Anonymous said...

All I know, Thompson could care less about the likes of a Ewbank, Lehner or a Fehrman, Fehrman and Maxwell losing out against selfish taxpayers not willing to share their bounties with these pillars of Dearborn County Society.

Anonymous said...

Notes by Ralph Thompson and Jerry Jacobsen.

Say what you will about Rich Fox and Jeff Hughes...they do not waste their energy on informing those outside the DCEDI membership.

Anonymous said...

It is "Rick" Fox not "Rich" Fox!!!

But he is working on the "Rich" part with his public influence peddling!!!

Anonymous said...

"Do you think the taxpayers will voluntarily send money to Brett for Gabbard Estates?"


Charlie Fehrman is working on it...he is working on it.

Anonymous said...

However, they needed to modify the agreement to allow Aurora to charge a debt service to those who choose not to tap in (they will charge the households which do not connect, their share of the design and construction costs for the sewer system, even though they are not using it).


Commissioners and Council members, the DCRSD keeps ending up in the same place, coercing others to pay for the sewers needed by a realtor/developer on the DCRSD Board.

The ONLY fair alternative, if this Board member wants to continue with HIS subdivision(s) is to charge him a substantial impact or development fee and cease and desist with the extortion of money from the rest of us to finance this Board member's sewers!

Anonymous said...

If the DCRSD is not stopped now, there will be nothing stopping them sewering any county road a "politically connected" developer buys land, coercing more and more county residents to subsidize more sewers they do not need!!!

Anonymous said...

Dillsboro has the capacity to handle High Ridge's sewage. Pay them once and fix the problem, or pay the DCRSD and you will be paying for years to come due to the corruption that makes up the DCRSD.

Anonymous said...

Dillsboro will not take on the Gabbard property, so Brett's only alternative is to force the rest of us to subsidize his sewers and to cost the taxpayers millions more than the cost of Dillsboro, because he wants his subdivision sewered at our expense, damn it!!!!!!!!!!!

Development interests worked hard to gain control of a sewer district and they will profit from it come hell or high water!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD has that very special mix of both greed and incompetence.

Anonymous said...

You will notice that DCRSD Board does not even reference Dillsboro any more. That is how important Gabbard Estates has become in the "High Ridge Fix!"

Every choice, A, B or C has an "And the taxpayers will sewer Gabbard Estates clause!"

Anonymous said...

No one is stupid enough on the Dearborn County Commissioners nor on the County Council to believe the DCRSD's goals have anything to do with the public health.

So, anyone who supports and/or enables the DCRSD is consciously and purposely supporting the theft from our County Citizens to finance the Development of a "politically connected" few who think they own this County!

Anonymous said...

But for being "politically connected," some may not have a couple of Caddys in their inlaws' driveways.

Anonymous said...

"Secretary pay" must pay real good!!!!!

Anonymous said...

We all must make sure those with no inherent capabilities in this County, make due, with some allegiance relative to their constant desire to be something, via their abilities to lie and cheat their way into elective office.

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD will never be a true sewer utility.

It will always be just a developer controlled entity always working on a developer controlled "wish" list for development subsidized by the taxpayer.

Anonymous said...

Freaks.

Anonymous said...

Only Freaks grow weed

Anonymous said...

"Only Freaks grow weed"

Are you doing a little free association after raiding you parents' liquour cabinet?

Or do you always have such a hard time stringing together a cogent sentence and/or thought?

Anonymous said...

"Freaks."

The mobocracy displayed by the last few post is trying to confuse the real issue. The DCRSD needs to be dissolved and the commissioners need to explore another venues of correcting the sewage pollution by 2 areas High Ridge Estates and Guilford. The other "tag along' issues of subdivisons needs to cease. The main issue of the DCRSD existance is not being accomplished.

Anonymous said...

The main issue of the DCRSD existence is not being accomplished.

The stated goals of the DCRSD are not being accomplished.

The unstated but actual goals, such as a raw power grab by a handful of realtors/developers/lawyers to gain access to a public entity that would permit the gouging of the Dearborn County Citizen/Taxpayer to finance any and all development in this County is on right on tract!

Anonymous said...

"is right on tract"

Turn off one of the on's!

Anonymous said...

Just fix High Ridge and Guilford.

If later on there are enough "volunteers" to pay for sewers, then so be it.

But don't force those in no need of sewers to pay for the sewers of a few greedy and spoiled developers.

Do the "right" thing Dearborn County Commissioners and County Council.

Do not let the "users" on the DCRSD "play" you.

Anonymous said...

"Do not let the "users" on the DCRSD "play" you."

Charlie Fehrman has already showed that he is willing to lay down and let the DCRSD play "Twister" on his being!!!

Anonymous said...

Are Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes men enough to admit that they were played like absolute fools by Lisa Lehner and Bob Ewbank relative to the formation of DCRSD?

Anonymous said...

"The unstated but actual goals, such as a raw power grab by a handful of realtors/developers/lawyers to gain access to a public entity that would permit the gouging of the Dearborn County Citizen/Taxpayer to finance any and all development in this County is right on tract!"

Thanks for that post.
That's the best description of the DRSD debachle I've seen.

Dissolve the DRSD now!

I believe it will take either a turn around of Fox and Hughes votes as Commissioners or their defeat in the next election to dissolve the DRSD. The council in their insite has done a very good job of stopping the dollar drain to the Realtor/Developer DRSD by witholding funds. Charlie Fehrman EXCLUDED.

Anonymous said...

Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes are not men enough to demand either Ewbank or Kramer step down from their County positions to at least appear that both Rick and Jeff are not the cuckold political servant/mates of Ewbank and Company!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

They are just as man enough as you make statements anonymously.

Anonymous said...

This County Public Officials need to step away from the misconception that throwing dollars at the likes of Fehrman and Maxwell somehow equates to economic "growth" and leads to the oft heralded "jobs" proclaimation for citizens of this county other than Fehrman and Maxwell and their cadre!

Putting a few more dollars in Brett and John's pockets may lead to a few more Big Macs being sold, but that is about it for their contribution to the economic health of this county!

Anonymous said...

They are just as man enough as you make statements anonymously.

It is a tad harder for you to extort my silence, like the old days of County Corruption.

Maybe I missed it, Rick and Jeff, "public" servants they confess to be, have stepped up to the plate and swung some wood toward ending the Ewbank dynasty?

By the way, what Republican are you going to vote for next year before you vote for the Democrat you will inevitably run it that Republican's place?

Don’t let Morris learn of your plans, he is going to support the “rank and file’s” choice from now on.

He is not a political whore such as that “Little Dickens Pickens!”

Unless and of course, he is another “Trojan Development Jack ass!”

Anonymous said...

They are just as man enough as you make statements anonymously.


Q: How do you know if a Development Republican Official knows where you live?

A: Your campaign signs and mailbox are constantly run over and destroyed!

Anonymous said...

"Maxwell and Enzweiler met with Leone(sp)about two weeks ago. They wanted to look at St. Leon again, especially the prices. Enzweiler wanted to authorize up to $2,000 to have Burgess & Niple to get with Leone and review the costs, prior to retrying the St. Leon agreement."

The DCRSD's Maxwell is another user trying to keep the sewer plant expansion ongoing by voting for contributing $2,000 to the studies that will help his developement in St Leon.
This is wasteful spending and has not one useful significant point to the sewer pollution problem in Dearborn Co. It's a handout!

Anonymous said...

"Ewbank dynasty?"

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"The DCRSD's Maxwell is another user trying to keep the sewer plant expansion ongoing by voting for contributing $2,000 to the studies that will help his developement in St Leon."

Maybe if the Taxpayer subsidizes enough of Maxwell's projects, he will use some of his windfall profits to sewer High Ridge himself?

Anonymous said...

"Maybe if the Taxpayer subsidizes enough of Maxwell's projects, he will use some of his windfall profits to sewer High Ridge himself?"

Laughing out loud.

Is the mocking bird singing? Again?

That's unbelievably cynical!

Anonymous said...

That's unbelievably cynical!

True!!!

What is the Taxpayers' is Maxwell's!!!

What is Maxwell's will always be Maxwell's!!!

Maxwell is a "Capitalist," even if it takes his political "Socialism" to fund his "Capitalism!"

Anonymous said...

You gotta luv our Socialist Elites in this County.

We all must share the burden of their prosperity!

Anonymous said...

"You gotta luv our Socialist Elites in this County.

We all must share the burden of their prosperity!"

A Blog like this gets the facts out! The environment created by the blog makes it hard for the users of taxpayer dollars to conduct "business as usual".

A big thanks to Chris Mueller.

cc said...

So while the county is forking over big bucks for sewers and studies, what happens to that riverboat revenue money that was supposed to be for ROADS?
Has anyone noticed teh amount of money in Riverboat funds that is being slyly used for "day to day" County budget items? Has anyone seen how much of that money is really being surreptitiously used for the courthouse and jail operations?
What was it that they pitched to the voters for approving the gambling boat?
I distinctly remember that we were NOT going to spend it on anything operational- it was for special projects and roads....

Anonymous said...

"I distinctly remember that we were NOT going to spend it on anything operational- it was for special projects and roads...."

Aren't the commissioners in charge of this distribution?
If so who's allowing this to happen?

Anonymous said...

I am very surprised how Charlie Fehrman is being about the sewer district. I have known him & his father for years this is unlike him. I guess the old saying is right (for the love of money is the root of all evil) may be a good subject for a sermon some day.

Anonymous said...

When you surround yourself with low caliber types who have no problem stealing from their neighbors to make a profit...

...well...

...political sewage is hard to wash off!

Anonymous said...

Think of the moral and ethical dissonance and discord some have to suffer through to rationalize and justify what the DCRSD is willing to do to others to facilitate and finance a few realtor/developer’s profits?

Look at the many incarnations we have seen so far:


THE STATE IS MAKING THE DCRSD DO IT.

THIS COUNTY’S SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE NEED TO PAY FOR SEWERS FOR OUR OWN ECONOMIC HEALTH.

JOBS.

TO NOW, JUST GIVE US THE MONEY AND WE WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO EVEN HOOK UP.




What will be their next line of reasoning?

Anonymous said...

Former Indiana Ninth District Representative Mike Sodrel announced Tuesday with Republican supporters in New Albany that he will run against Democrat Baron Hill.


Maybe our local Dearborn County Republican Leadership can "energize" the Democrats to get out and vote for their Republican backed Development Democratic Stooge once again, Baron Hill does so appreciate their help in the last election!

Anonymous said...

I see that the VRUC had yet another nice Labor Day Weekend spill of raw sewage into Double Lick Creek!

Save us from our working septic systems, DCRSD!

Save us before we kill our "FIRST" earthworm!

Anonymous said...

They dropped Hidden Valley Lake an inch to flush out the creek.

What lake, creek or impoundment will the DCRSD utilize to flush out a potential spill of its sewage plant?

Or are we just going to let the taxpayer worry about that later, after the developers move on to greener pastures to sewer?

Anonymous said...

The VRUC's infrastructure was allowed to atrophy and crumble as Development Interests fought for control of the sewer utility, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of residents' money on lawyers alone, to keep control of the VRUC in order to subsidize the development of the likes of Bittner and Sammy.

The VRUC at least started out with some infrastructure to ruin, where as the DCRSD expects the taxpayer to pay for their infrastructure well before they let said infrastructure crumble as they branch out to subsidize more development at behest of a “few” realtor/developers in this County!

So, let us not learn from Hidden Valley’s mistakes and let us give complete control of the DCRSD to Development Interests, hell-bent on making what happened to the VRUC look like it was done by mere amateur Development Interests and various other common criminals!

Anonymous said...

The VRUC had Sammy...

...the DCRSD has Vera!

Surefire twin train wrecks dumping all species and varieties of contaminates into the environs of the customer/citizen/taxpayer!

Anonymous said...

Was Sammy's ear stapled to L. Parvin Price's lips as Vera's ear to Lisa Lehner's lips?

It would have seemed that a cutting torch could not have separated Vera's ear from Lisa's lips!

Only the voters could slice and dice the connection between those two!

Anonymous said...

Poor Lisa and Bob, soon they will be the least educated and intelligent in the chambers of our elected officials.

No matter if they support the democrat, green or turnip cart candidate in the general election.

But maybe Lisa and Bob could still reminisce and muse over old times with their “charges” as their one time inferiors trim their topiaries and clean their beddings!

Anonymous said...

Ewbank is funny!!!

Remember Bob at the last Commissioners' meeting?

Ewbank asked Thompson to get with him on the Vieste letter of recommendation.

Welcome to bazaaro land!!!

Maybe Ewbank could schedule a meeting to commemorate the beneficial effects of the flood of 1937 also?

Could this tool be more of a drain on this County?

Anonymous said...

"Ewbank asked Thompson..."

How refreshing!

Ewbank "asks" Thompson but "dictates" to Fox and Hughes!

Maybe we need more Thompsons and fewer Fox and Hughes who would be "directed" by the "hired" help!

Because, Ewbank and Lehner are just that in this County...hired help!

Anonymous said...

Which makes Messmore...day labor!

Anonymous said...

Ewbank asked Thompson to get with him on the Vieste letter of recommendation.

Shut the hell up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vieste devised a way to make a boat load of money for the politically connected few of this county by hoodwinking those who actually own land in the NW Quad to sell their land for ten cents on the dollar to the DCEDI “connected” few!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you against profit…or what??????????????

Anonymous said...

The value of Vieste’s involvement in Dearborn County was certainly disproportionate to the number of Dearborn County residents permitted in the “inner circle” of those who might profit from Vieste’s plans and tactics!

Thankfully, Vieste sent out the necessary templates to the obvious operatives and shills to label those not in the “inner circle” as “do nothings” and “anti-everythings!”

Thievery, permitted to be defined by another name by the thieves’ co-conspirators, is far more palatable to the would-be delusional thieves!

It permits them the fiction of being simply self-labeled as merely “good businessmen!”

Anonymous said...

Vieste devised a way to make a boat load of money for the politically connected few..."

"Seems like a good business plan to me!"

As endorsed by Mark Branaman

Anonymous said...

<As endorsed by Mark Branaman

And as sycophantly drooled and slobbered over by Jim West and Mike Rozow!

Anonymous said...

LEAVE RODNEY ALONE HE IS A GOOD MAN
AND VERY SMART REALLY KNOWS WHAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE, OUT SMART THE DO NOTHINGS OF THIS COUNTY ROD.

Anonymous said...

Well he got the "taxpayer do nothings" to pay for the new sewers to his trailer park.

Has Rodney ever done anything that did not first profit Rodney?

Anonymous said...

What ever happened to Mike Hankins?

And what was discussed in the DCRSD Board's executive session?

Did Hankins, the sewers "True Believer" finally see that his fellow Board members had less than noble goals?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Mike finally came to the conclusion that science supports the efficiency of a functioning septic system and the propaganda by Development initiated forces to the contrary concerning "septic systems" had more to do with profits than actual science?

Anonymous said...

"OUT SMART THE DO NOTHINGS OF THIS COUNTY ROD."

Make all those existing home and property owners within the grasp of the DCRSD get loans to support a handful of realtors and developers ROD!

Anonymous said...

We need to make Rodney, a Democrat, Commissioner once again.

With his Democratic credentials, and inherent and absolute lack of all respect for how our tax dollars are spent, as long as those tax dollars flow to the "politically connected" of this County, he would be an ideal candidate for our local Republican Leadership to get behind!

And he has the good looks and hygiene that our past Commissioner lacked!

Anonymous said...

"DO NOTHINGS":

Those who refuse to sit down with their Bank's lending officer to discuss financial planning that includes their savings and the future of a few realtors, developers and lawyers.

Anonymous said...

I thought "Do Nothings" were those farmers who would not sell their land to a few "connected" realtor/developers in this County at a price that would permit these realtor/developers to make a real "killing" when they resold the land to a commercial enterprise?

jb said...

Remember the former head of the chamber of commerce?
He wrote about "do nothings" too. He called them CAVE- Citizens Against Virtually Everything.
Then he apparentlly went into his cave never to be heard from again.

Anonymous said...

why'd he go into his cave?

Anonymous said...

Couldn't he get the money for his backers in the chamber?

Anonymous said...

"Do Nothings" are those Conservative Republicans who refused to vote for the "Tax and Development" Republicans' Democratic choice for Commissioner!

tg said...

well the current chamber guy- Rozow- at least seems to LIKE SE Indiana. Unlike West who shows scorn for everyone and everything here. He obviously feels like he's in some backwater burg and just can't get anyone to give him what he thinks he deserves...
maybe he should go back home to the south and live with his family again.

Anonymous said...

When Jim West heads back South, will he take his "house boys," Rick and Jeff, back with him?

Anonymous said...

Did everybody read about the VRUC spill in the Tuesday paper. That ONE spill, ongoing for 3 days, of 750 to 1 million gallons of raw sewage is MORE pollution than all the septic tanks , Guilford and Highridge Estates produce in 1 YEAR.
The sewage is still setting in the non flowing stream "stinking to high heaven".

I've not heard ONE word from Baer, Dennerline or Scudder ( The DC Health Dept) or from Fehrman Maxwell,Enzweiller (DCRSD board).

When we need help in protecting the citizens of dearborn co for sewage pollution , the Health dept and Dcrsd do and say NOTHING.

No more needs be said about these failed political systems. They are useless and not doing one IOTA of service to the taxpayers. They sit on there butts expecting other "higher up" goverment agencies to do THEIR job.......

Anonymous said...

Oh- it's the state's job!

Oh we can't write a county letter or ordinance to stop enforced hook-up for those on working septic systems- it's the state law that prevails!

Oh we have to force you onto asewer line- teh state is making us- our hands are tied!

These guys are impotent.

Anonymous said...

One "saving grace" on the Health Dept. is John Grace. He documented several VRUC's spills but is being hamstrung/prevented by Baer in allowing this information, words and pictures, to be released to the public. More factual public knowledge is needed to correct the overflows by bringing attention to the offenders, not less public information.

Anonymous said...

We would not want anything to get in the way Doug's chearleading for sewers and subdivisions!

Anonymous said...

Doug is probably busy sending out "forced hook up letters" to those homeowners who live near Double Lick Creek and are still on functional septic systems.

Double Lick Creek has enough capacity for Hidden Valley, all of Sammy and Jeff's proposed subdivisions and everyone else to hook on to the Double Lick Creek sewage expressway.

Anonymous said...

Give the DCRSD a sewer treatment plant...

...maybe we can have Hogans or Laughery "ranking" up their with Double Lick!!!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for finally saying something about forced sewer hookups.

I was worried you were giving up on that.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for finally saying something about forced sewer hookups.

I was worried you were giving up on that.


Oh, you are quite welcome!

How's business?

We all hope it turns around for you sometime soon!

Think of the day when you don't have to steal from the taxpayers to put food on your family's table!

Anonymous said...

Oh for the good old days where "forced hook-ups" discussions only took place in "polite" company, between shysters and crooks, during their planning to force others to subsidize their development interests.

Anonymous said...

Forced hookup talk makes this person nervous. I wonder why. Maybe because they no longer have an iron grip on local government and its lackeys. Maybe more light shown on their nefarious ways makes their "business as usual" ways of steamrolling the taxpayers a little tougher for these users.

Anonymous said...

Remember the good old days when sewers meant jobs and subdivisions would also pay for our new jail!!!

When developers owned all the paint brushes and paint, they could paint really pretty pictures!!!

Anonymous said...

We all just need to sit back, relax and forget all about the DCRSD and its Board Members.

I'm sure, things will work out on their own.

I'm sure, in the end the DCRSD and its Board Members will not force hook-ups.

I'm sure, in the end the DCRSD and its Board Members will not force those who do not hook on to their sewers to pay for them anyway.

I'm sure, in the end the DCRSD will just do the "right" thing.

And Argosy offers better odds than the odds of the the DCRSD and its Board Members will do the "right" thing.

Anonymous said...

"...maybe we can have Hogans or Laughery "ranking" up their with Double Lick!!!"

Until the DCRSD's Board gets the go ahead by the County Council to force the costs of a few members' sewers onto the taxpayers, High Ridge will continue to dump raw sewage into Hogans Creek!

Anonymous said...

This County has many wonderful, decent and honorable folks, why we cannot find a few of these to man the membership of Boards such as the DCRSD, is simply beyond me.

From its very begining, the DCRSD has suffered from a confluence of shysters, con men and easily led cattle!

Anonymous said...

Where and when tax dollars hit the road, this County's political monopoly seems to like easily led and easily read retreads such as Dennerline and Benning.

Anonymous said...

Until the DCRSD's Board gets the go ahead by the County Council to force the costs of a few members' sewers onto the taxpayers, High Ridge will continue to dump raw sewage into Hogans Creek!


The DCRSD is willing to hold the entire County hostage until the Board's demands are met!!!

Another legacy of the Benning, Fox and Hughes' ass-backwards administration!!!

And of course Benning rebounded to the DCRSD after the voters grew wise to her shenanigans!!! Still doing her best to stick the taxpayers with the bill of her masters’ development!!!

Anonymous said...

Wasn't Benning's "ear implant," Lisa Lehner, also involved in the formation of the DCRSD?

Anonymous said...

Not only did Benning, Fox and Hughes give us the DCRSD...

...they played a large part in getting Baron Hill elected to Congress.

Anonymous said...

"This County has many wonderful, decent and honorable folks, why we cannot find a few of these to man the membership of Boards such as the DCRSD, is simply beyond me."

The political establishment is run through the party system. That system is inundated by lawyers. The lawyers support or put up candidate they can control. They will oppose candidates that will not do their bidding. The fact is the parties/lawyers don't want independent thinking candidates. They want so-so candidates that they can coerse. If an independant thinking candidate is running for office, they will face an onslot of negative opposition from the "people that are in power".
You have to be on guard for the people in power "spreading trash". It'll happen this election just as it has in past elections.

"Semper Fi" and "Semper Paratus".

Anonymous said...

"Semper Fi" and "Semper Paratus".

Were you a marine or coast guard?

Anonymous said...

You have to be on guard for the people in power "spreading trash".

As Benning, Fox and Hughes did last year, clicking their heels and extending their right arms in salute to "Mein Ewbank" as they barked "yavol"!

Anonymous said...

"Were you a marine or coast guard?"

Just an American, Dearborn County Sentinel!

Anonymous said...

Nobody is "just" an American!!!

You used the both the mottos of the Corp and Coast Guard, so I was just curious!!!

Anonymous said...

"You used the both the mottos of the Corp and Coast Guard, so I was just curious!!!"

I understand but both mottos avery apropo. Very descriptive of the political vigilance needed to protect our country and freedoms.
Freedom will not dissappear suddenly it's taken from us in "small pieces".

"Semper Fi" and "Semper Paratus"

Anonymous said...

What catch phrase will Ewbank order his troops to parrot this election cycle?

"Anti-everythings" and "do-nothings" don't have much mileage left!

Anonymous said...

Schmart voters vote against Ewbank backed candidates.
That should about cover all the bases.

Anonymous said...

"Schmart voters vote against Ewbank backed candidates.
That should about cover all the bases."


"Schmart" voters can run and vote against Ewbank, the Republican "King Maker's" Republicans in the primary...but when do we get to know what Democrats this Ewbank the Republican "King Maker" will run against the Republicans, chosen by the Republicans, in the general election?

You see, all this "seedy," backroom nonsense of Ewbank is quite hard to follow!

Such as, what Republican Development Shill will Ewbank make fall on his or her sword, forever ruining their political and ethically based futures and reputations, to support and campaign for Ewbank's Development Democrat candidate?

Especially, as Ewbank fancies himself as some sort of Republican stalwart!

A stalwart who seems resolute only in shielding his personal wants and wishes, regardless of where that may leave his “True Believers," mediocre Republican run of the mill and easily replaceable second and third rate inferiors!

Ewbank must be universally loved and admired by his small cadre of "True Believers," who would make Eric Hoffer shake his head in true amazement, as to these “True Believers” aptitudes for shedding all personal respect and community reverence to flesh out Ewbank’s particularized pecuniary aspirations!

Lehner looks like Mother Theresa next to Ewbank!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Some may be asking, was Law School a causal or contributory factor in the civic peccadilloes manifested by those county attorneys who seem to think we taxpayers are their personal financiers?

I don’t know!

Did seminary school cause Stalin?

Did art school cause Hitler?

Did the 60’s sexual revolution cause Clinton?

Hopefully, the professors of Ivy Tech may someday lecture on a subject that might shed some light on the behavior and actions of a few of our County’s rogue legal prevaricators!

Anonymous said...

The reason Hitler was rejected from art school was because, as seen in his paintings, he was too traditional in his painting style.

What "rejections" caused our Dearborn County Land Title Attorneys to “flip out” and seek comfort in their niggling assault on the Dearborn County Taxpayer to satisfy some unrequited subterranean and unfathomable needs ?

Anonymous said...

Give it a rest, Zerbe, you inbred piece of crap.

Anonymous said...

Zerbe is a good guy.

Leave him out of this.

And let us all look to the underlying problems exhibiting themselves in this county.

Maybe those in positions of influence in this county need to step back and rethink their actions in relation to how it is affecting the citizens of this county.

The almighty dollar should not take over our lives.

Anonymous said...

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."

- Ronald Reagan

Anonymous said...

Schmart voters vote against Ewbank backed candidates.
That should about cover all the bases.


Schmart leadership in the local Republican Party would remove Ewbank from the Republican Party considering he is NO LONGER a Republican if judged by his support of the Development Democrat in the previous election cycle!

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