Sunday, December 09, 2007

7 December 2007 DCRSD Meeting Notes

The following notes are provided in an effort to record the transactions of the meeting without editorial comment, except clarification of events.- Ralph Thompson, Washington Township

7 December 2007 DCRSD Meeting Notes

Present: Acting Chairman, Fehrman, Maxwell, Pruss, Dennerline. Adams and Enzweiler were not present.
Also Present: Executive Secretary, Doug Baer; Tom Quinn, Quinn Engineering; Benning, Secretary; Frank Kramer, Board Attorney; Robert Hrezo, Hrezo Engineering; Julia Barber, Sherman, Barber & Mullikin - CPA (part time); and Ralph Thompson.

Meeting started at approximately 7:00 PM in the Commissioner's Meeting Room. Meeting was not recorded.

Meeting Notes
Meeting Notes for November, 2007 approved (Moved by Maxwell and seconded by Dennerline).

Treasurer's Report
The report is the same as last month except that the DCRSD Savings account balance is $77,572.42.

Public Comment
Fehrman asked if there was any public comment. No response.

Special
Julia Barber, Sherman, Barber & Mullikin - CPA was present to provide a firm profile and indicate some of the services they can provide. They are located in Madison, IN and work for municipalities, water and waste water districts. Their services include setting utility rates and bond issues. They work on an hourly rate, that they feel is less than that of Umbaugh. They are subject to State Board of Accounts (Note: this is now Department of Local Government Finance - DLGF) and have helped with State Revolving Fund and Rural Development. She left after her presentation.

Serenity Ridge

Tom Quinn indicated the prebid meeting was attended by four potential bidders:
Logan Creek Construction (3550 North Dearborn Rd.)
Ty Harold
Myer(sp?) Property & Development
Mike Seavers(sp?) of Dave O'Mara

Bid due date is 12/31/2007 at 2:00 PM. Since this project is under the state minimum, prevailing wage is not required. The plans have filed with the Highway Engineer. The line is only crossing the road once diagonally under the pavement.
Also have a draft contract for LMH. On page 3 the correct number should be $5,000 in lieu of $30,000. It will be corrected. It is the same format used for Stewart Rd and Cole Ln. Kramer has not yet had a chance to review the contract.

West Aurora Project
Quinn indicated flowmeter measurements had been obtained at Randall and US 50 for approximately 17 days including 3 rain days. There is something 'spooky' in the readings. The higher peak flows were on non rain days. He thinks there is plenty of capacity for DCRSD. They referenced the USDA(sp?) rain gauge. He will complete the analysis and submit the report.

He has a proposed addendum for the PER. There are questions he cannot answer on the comments in the Larry Adams letter. The first paragraph describes the changes. GRW had 290 users, a house count comes to 141, taking out Texas Gas Rd and Mt. Tabor Church Rd. ( discussion on whether it is Mt. Tabor Church or Mt Tabor Rd. - latter is current.) The east-west section of Mt. Tabor is eliminated.

He asked if the financial reports had been audited - never done. The response to the Larry Adams letter to cause the PER to remain alive and current.

Maxwell found the volume and order of information commendable. Under GRW, he felt DCRSD was not getting the attention it should.

Quinn indicated the PER will establish Quinn Engineering as the engineer of record. Same questions were asked of GRW in 2004.

(Several people talking) _____ faster and easier than State Revolving Fund. What to do ___ optimize to use force main.

Fehrman asked when can they count houses and ask for a variance from state. Aurora project will be done January 1, 2008.

Maxwell indicated Dave planned to go to Indy CID(??). Maxwell wants to go along. If Greendale is going to 'blow' them off and not approve it, he doesn't want to go and waste time. They need to powwow to try to see if they can get agreement and go together or it is a waste of time. They want to get SDRSD or a couple of the members to go together and get it done.

Dennerline thinks it will happen immediately, as they (the state?) want Highridge fixed.

Maxwell asked about the contract fee on Serenity Ridge for the size.

(Quinn indicated the force main is 2900 feet long for 10- 15 houses in the entire subdivision.) It was a great deal of money.
Quinn indicated it was the same process to get it to bid, as a larger project.

The members have copies of the questions and assumptions for the treatment plant. Some answers will require input from the Board.

Fehrman suggested members take them home, make comments and get them back to Benning.

Maxwell asked if they should hold or proceed with Hardeback (sp?), since they are on a different tack. Benning indicated there were a lot of questions; but, they ought to proceed with the appraisal.

The issue of the road being private was raised and the Board will need an easement to access and maintain the treatment plant.

Maxwell suggested, given the current path, they suspend the questions for 60 days.
Benning indicated they should proceed with the questions so that the man can move forward (Hardeback?).

Some questions are engineering problems. Dennerline indicated someone else is interested in buying the property.

For appraisal, if another parcel is selected what is the value of a private plant - answer $0.

Quinn: Bids for Serenity Ridge will be handled on 1/3/2008.

Fehrman asked about Ordinance 2007-1 to require mandatory connection/fee for Stewart Rd. and Cole Ln.

Kramer said the availability fee assessment needs an ordinance, which will require a public hearing and notification. He has a draft. They could be ready at the next meeting. The customers are customers of Aurora. They do not have contracts with those who are not hooked on. The power of law allows them to require hookups. They can allow exceptions for new septics. Also, have the power to require people with property line within 300 feet to hookup. What does that mean.

Dennerline suggested sending letters to people who haven't hooked up. Need another group of people. There is an increase for those that would hook up now, $600 on pumps and $2,500 hook up fee. Have to talk to Randy(Turner).

Maxwell asked if DCRSD wants to permit, it's a Health Department issue. DCRSD could allow, not permit. If DCRSD invokes ordinance and not enforce, leave line out of first paragraph. May have to have paragraph to have Health Board review.

Dennerline: Oh, thanks.

Fehrman: Intent is to collect availability fee.

Kramer: Have two issues:
Do you want to force hook on?
Not require hook on; but, require annual fee?


Dennerline: Do they make application to the District, not the Health Board.

Fehrman: If application made, need to get input from the Health Board.

Maxwell: What about the Commissioner letter.

Kramer: I talked to Bob Ewbank, this is not the Commissioners' bailiwick. The Commissioners are not empowered.

Maxwell asked Thompson about the letter.

Thompson: The letter is composed; but not signed yet. The letter references the State Ordinance that says 'May' require and then references the existing County Ordinance, that says the resident cannot be forced to connect if they have a working system or a repairable system that is repaired.

Dennerline: Randy (Turner) doesn't want it (enforced hook up), want the availability fee, not to force hook up.

Maxwell: Can we do separate ordinances or one?
(several people talking didn't get all the statements.)

Baer: Which rates, State Law or County Ordinance?

Maxwell: Focus on availability and leave out mandatory.

Fehrman: DCRSD wants Health Board more involved than District.

Dennerline: ___average repairs are $8,000 to $12,000.

_______: Consider only last three paragraphs, eliminate mandatory hook ups.

Kramer: Wording came from the Regulations. Lehner had obtained the Regulation. Without our own lines we don't need the Regulation. Will need them for Highridge.
Serenity Ridge are customers of LMH. We're under different pressure. The requirement to pay when they hook on will pay back the other residents. They will put pressure on the neighbors to get their money back.


Fehrman asked if Stewart Rd. and Cole Ln. will set a precedent.

Kramer: Serenity Ridge is not DCRSD money, would like to others hook on, not forced. It is assumed people would want to hook on.

Maxwell: Couldn't this be broader? Or $12.35 per month for this project, this location. Could also cover lines in other places specific to dollar amounts.

Kramer indicated they can give notice to consider at the next meeting without the first paragraph.

Baer: How do we collect the money? Under interlocal agreement it is added to the water bill. They could pay the water only. Would Aurora turn off the water? (discussion by several people if Aurora could or would turn off water.) Would paragraph 2 force payment? This Board could force hook on, if they don't pay debt service. Otherwise, we couldn't force to pay - what will happen?

Some one asked Maxwell if he was on sewer. It is in front of his house; but, he's not hooked on.

Baer: It's wrong not to hook on.

Maxwell: Need to say________ need to hook on, if notice by the Board of Health. There has to be a process to force hook on.

Baer: If you don't who will force.

Dennerline: Need to do two ordinances. Need one to require hook on. Baer can go condemn whoever is not hooked on. (Baer didn't seem to like this.)

Baer said only three have hooked on on Stewart Rd.

Dennerline indicated St. Leon promised everybody would be hooked on to get the grant money (bond money??). They sued to save the grant money. Let people know DCRSD_______. They got to hook on, they missed out on the lower offer. Funding from Rural Development required high participation, Have to allow someone with operating system to not hook on. (Talked about high $ cost systems.)

Baer: Have option to not force hook on. Don't know how to put in ordinance, use common sense.

Fehrman: Can we have availability fee?

Dennerline: Need debt service. Can't run on negative profit and loss.

Kramer will start publication for tentative approval and schedule hearing.

Dennerline: Unless they plan on working on it.

Kramer: Only publish the first (ordinance). Hook on requires 90 days notice. If we don't proceed we lose a month's dollars.

Dennerline motioned to table, Maxwell seconded, all approved.

Board Membership
Kramer had, as requested at the last meeting, done an evaluation on expanding the Board membership. The law allows 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 or 13 members. Seven are currently appointed by various entities as approved by IDEM. Any change must be approved by IDEM. An amended petition must be sent to IDEM. A petition to amend is at IDEM. Under the original, the Commissioners appoint two members from two groups of townships and the petition was to move Sparta to the second group of townships. IDEM has never acted on this. The Board could do no requirements for appointees to be a member of the Board. Should it be left at 7 or increase to 9 to add Greendale and Lawrenceburg. Getting quorum is a concern. He doesn't know if Greendale and Lawrenceburg are interested.

Fehrman: Would they be appointed by them?

Kramer: If effluent is treated elsewhere in a municipality, the municipality shall appoint the member. Should it be Lawrenceburg or SDRSD? Would have made more sense for SDRSD, since they handle treatment and they are knowledgeable.

Dennerline said Newlon (IDEM) said they needed Aurora, when Baer, Benning and he were working to set up the Board. While it was weighted toward Dillsboro, it was heavily weighted toward US 50 and Aurora. We are at the point to be more diversified. We'll need to add St. Leon, Moores Hill and Dillsboro.

Kramer suggested they not have districts, just must be residents of the County, and own real estate. RSDs are not a democratic society.

Dennerline: Benning, Baer and he went through all of this and all the political of the County. Sewer district is another governmental agency.

Kramer: It is a governmental corporation, not subject to politics.

Fehrman: Should it be SDRSD in lieu of Greendale and Lawrenceburg?

Dennerline: Send letters to the governing bodies to see if they are interested. We've got a bunch of things coming down (from State) with all kinds of demands for Sewer Districts and treatment.

Maxwell: Get input from the municipalities.

Kramer: Then we can file a modification with IDEM.

Dennerline moved and ______ seconded to have Kramer draft a letter to Greendale and Lawrenceburg.

Dennerline: SDRSD is the brainchild of the three, since Seagrams is gone. It behaves as a facility for treatment rather than a district

Maxwell: Lawrenceburg and Greendale are municipals and members of SDRSD, wouldn't want them contrary to SDRSD.

Dennerline: If they don't agree. Lawrenceburg and Greendale are extending now and need to get them on board and get their input. Guilford is a pressure and the State will come in. Greendale is the logical one to serve it. Aurora had to be on because it was served through Aurora.

Kramer: Petition will be amended to name Aurora. (It listed municipality in the petition.)

Motion passed.

Fehrman: Dave Enzweiler is up for reappointment by 12/31/07. Asked that Dave be reappointed.

Dennerline moved ______seconded that Benning draft a letter to the Commissioners asking to reappoint Enzweiler.

Benning: Has he agreed?

The question was also asked about a letter recommending Steve Renn(?) for Hankins replacement. He has asked for the position. There was a question about realigning the Board. Maxwell asked if the Jimmie Adams spot was vacant. Kramer suggested, rather than expanding the the Board, pick up the municipalities. He was concerned about quorum issues. It was decided not to act till a response from Lawrenceburg and Greendale.

Maxwell asked about Adams missing all the meetings, any action?

Claims

Baer indicated claims to County were due Tuesday, so they submitted miscellaneous claims. These came in after. He wants to take the advertising for the Serenity Ridge bidding out of the Serenity Ridge account. They received $100 from the plan sets and the advertising cost $68. Also toner for the printer for $180.08.
Benning: Umbaugh will probably present a bill for services in 2007. Don't have money budgeted. About $20,000.

Baer: No money for Umbaugh. Umbaugh has done work, if they present a bill. Umbaugh will probably submit when the West Aurora loan is obtained.

Dennerline moved, Maxwell(?) seconded to pay claims. Approved.

2008 Meeting Schedule

Dennerline suggested to advertise for two meetings a month and cancel the second in January, to save cost of re advertising. Advertise the first and third Thursday and in January decide the status of the second meeting. This will reserve the room as well.

Dennerline moved and Maxwell seconded to adjourn. Approved.

Adjourned at approximately 9:00 PM.

After the adjournment, Maxwell was talking to Fehrman saying they needed to fix Highridge. Then they could pickup Cheeks vote. Everybody wants Highridge fixed.

Ralph Thompson
Washington Township

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Anonymous said...

"Wasn't Morris that tricked Johnny Nugent'''"

Taking advantage of Johnny the way they did!!!

Shameful!!!

Anonymous said...

Our Republican Leadership must feel the need to take a lot of baths after doing so much of Development's "dirty" work!

I hope for our Republican Leadership that "knee pads" are tax deductible!

Think of the number of pairs they must go through each year!

Anonymous said...

Dearborn County Politics...

...if you cannot play fair...

...the Dearborn County Republican Leadership has a position for you!!!

Anonymous said...

Q: How do you get this year's Republican Leadership's endorsement?

A: You must have supported the Development Democrat in last year's Commissioners' race!

Anonymous said...

BENNING FOR STATE SENATOR

Anonymous said...

And of course no one can forget the "dirty" politics played in the Greendale Mayoral race in order to get a Development Republican elected into office.

What a wonderful group of Development thugs we have in this County!

Anonymous said...

BENNING FOR STATE SENATOR

Not until it is verified that she is a full-blown alcoholic!

Although, some have said she thinks Johnny is well past his prime!

Especially after he went public about that awful Morris flyer incident last year!

Proving he cannot be bought off by Development Interests, Johnny may need to make way for Benning!

Anonymous said...

After last year's drought and accompaning low lawn mower sales, Johnny will anchor himself to his Senator's desk for the much needed income!

He is like Fox and Hughes, in their need to keep their taxpayer provided second income!

Only Johnny is like Fox and Hughes on steriolds!

Anonymous said...

Proving he cannot be bought off by Development Interests, Johnny may need to make way for Benning!

Even Benning, in her most delusional filled and hubris infested state understands her political future is now way in her past!

Anonymous said...

Vera to the republican rank and file primary voters:

"VOTE FOR ME OR I WILL GET ON THE PHONE AND ENCOURAGE A DEVELOPMENT DEMOCRAT TO RUN AGAINST YOUR CHOICE!"

What a charmer!

Anonymous said...

Vera just could not fathom that everyone else in this county was not in development's pocket.

It proved beyond any doubt what she was made up of.

Anonymous said...

The Republican Rank and File understood all-too-well about this County's unfolding sewer scam!

So they booted Benning!

And she immediately jumped right back into the DCRSD, still trying to steal from the taxpayer to pay for her Masters'sewers!

Yeah!

That will get her elected to State Senator!

Johnny would chew her up and spit her out and back to her lowly secretary position, running errands for Maxwell and Fehrman and taking lessons on "Flim-Flamming" from Dennerline!

Anonymous said...

One more ice storm this year like last year, knocking power out for days for many rural homes and the dcrsd will not be able to give away grinder pumps and free pressurized sewer service!!!

Ms. Morris and Mr. Barrott, what are your thoughts as to ice storms and grinder pumps, because that is what Fehrman and Maxwell are trying to force on us, with complicity of course?

Anonymous said...

with complicity of course?

Maynard and Liz want to be complicit in this sewer farce.

It makes them feel "needed," at least by crooked realtor/developers.

Anonymous said...

SO How is Gary Morris- Republican Party Chairman tied to UCB Bank?

Anonymous said...

Is there not one person in the Republican Leadership who does not have something to gain by screwing the rest of us?

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure there is not one member of the DCEDI who does not have plans for making the rest of us silent contributing yet non-profit-sharing-partners in their schemes of the week!

At least with connections to the UCB, they have direct access to many of our neighbors' savings?

Maybe UCB is working out some deal with the crooks of this County for direct withdrawl for Development's sewers and other projects?

Anonymous said...

I heard that both Brett Fehrman and John Maxwell love to ride around out in the country pointing to each and every home they pass and stating:

"THEIR DOLLARS AND THEIR DOLLARS AND THEIR DOLLARS...WILL SOON BE OUR DOLLARS AND OUR DOLLARS AND OUR DOLLARS...!!!"

Anonymous said...

With Doug Baer strapped onto the bed of their pickup truck mumbling:

"CONDEMNED...CONDEMNED...CONDEMNED...!!!"

Anonymous said...

As High Ridge Estates and HVL still dumping raw sewage into our waterways from their superior sewers...

Anonymous said...

Well, at least, no other realtor/developers will get the go ahead for sewers for their projects before John and Brett get theirs!

Corrupt power has its perks!

Anonymous said...

LOL!

John is now just getting the message that high ridge is a priority!

He still wants to name the dcrsd "Johnny's Playhouse!"

Anonymous said...

John's first priority is to hook up his home to St. Leon's sewers!!!

Or is he waiting for the sewer suit to play out?

Rather hypocritical on his part, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Maxwell said that 2 years ago he accepted their appointment (Council appointed him to replace Greg Volmer). He said the TIF in St. Leon area and in West Harrison are by St. Leon’s District and that St. Leon didn’t plan to expand their system. If all the people who were supposed to be hooked up to their system were hooked up they would be at capacity. Now they are at 70% capacity.


John?

John?

John?

Do your part and hook on to St. Leon's sewers!

John Maxwell: Offering comic relief to all County Residents since his addition to the DCRSD Board!

Anonymous said...

Maybe John does not want to hook on to St. Leon's sewers until that time the DCRSD can completely take over St. Leon's sewers?

Then, Doug Baer could give him a pass!

Anonymous said...

The very thought of the dcrsd makes honest folks throw up a little in their mouths.

Anonymous said...

"Rather hypocritical on his part, isn't it?
"


Unfortunately, hypocrisy is one the least unpleasant facets of Maxwell’s character!

Now that the housing slump has left him bereft of funds, hold on to your wallets!

Anonymous said...

Well, John always said:

"WHEN THE TIMES GET TOUGH...IT IS TIME FOR THE TOUGH TO BULLY THE WEAK!!!!!!"

And Morris and Barrott seemingly have no qualms whatsoever against throwing the weak into John's cage!

Anonymous said...

How is High Ridge coming?

Or is Dennerline, still pondering, now that he got his sewers, that the County should just condemn and buy out the residents of High Ridge?

High Ridge does seem to be an impediment to sewering Gabbard Estates!

Anonymous said...

Over the years, how many homes have the Fehrmans listed in High Ridge Estates?

Anonymous said...

Maybe if the "weak" flirted around in the same social circles of Gary and Liz, they would understand that this entire sewer scam is just "business!"

No room for compassion or Christian charity in matters of "business!"

Nor room for "ethical" condsiderations either!

Anonymous said...

I think Maxwell bullies around in the same social circles as the Morrises and he is not being forced onto sewers!

What's up with that?

Anonymous said...

Dig in your heels, John!!!

Let everyone know that you are not a "common" man bowed by the "common" rules foisted by you upon this County's "commoners"!

Anonymous said...

"Well, at least, no other realtor/developers will get the go ahead for sewers for their projects before John and Brett get theirs!

Corrupt power has its perks!"



Wait for these "slighted" realtor/developers' law suits to start, that WILL bankrupt this county.

Anonymous said...

And how much do you want to bet that these law suits, brought by slighted developers, will be handled by yet another law partner of Ewbank and Kramer or little Lisa Lehner?

Anonymous said...

Too many of the taxpayer's elected representatives lack Common Sense.
We need to vote the sheep out of office or make it so hard on them that they cannot stand the heat!

'My parents told me about Mr. Common Sense early in my life and told me I would do well to call on him when making decisions. It seems he was always around in my early years but less and less as time passed by until today I read his obituary. Please join me in a moment of silence in remembrance. For Common Sense had served us all so well for so many generations.
Obituary
Common Sense

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, life isn't always fair, and maybe it was my fault.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not children are in charge).
His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job they themselves failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Aspirin, sun lotion or a sticky plaster to a student; but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became
contraband; churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a beating when you
couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar can sue you for assault.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is survived by three stepbrothers; I Know my Rights, Someone Else is to Blame, and I'm a Victim.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing. "
Author unknown

Anonymous said...

Hey Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes!

You know those "Do-Nothings" you are always railing against?

John Maxwell is one of them!

Maxwell is refusing to hook up to St. Leon's sewers!

Your ranks have been infiltrated by a "Do-Nothing" operative!

Anonymous said...

Is Chuck Andres protesting septic systems in front of Maxwell's home, holding up posters with dead fish floating in our waterways (which he borrowed from Doug Baer the pictures from the latest VRUC sewer spill into Double Lick Creek)?

Anonymous said...

Will Liz Morris pen an article or edtitorial utilizing her vast availability of "INK" to condemn John Maxwell?

Doubt it.

Anonymous said...

This county is ass deep in conflicting interests and political corruption.

Anonymous said...

Now, time for this County's Republican Party Leadership to interview a few more Development Democrats to take Rick and Jeff's place after their upcoming primary losses!!!

Anonymous said...

(which he borrowed from Doug Baer the pictures from the latest VRUC sewer spill into Double Lick Creek)?

Hilarious!

That would be worthy of a "Monty Python" skit!

Anonymous said...

This County could do with a "GRACE" period separating us from the corruption currently brewing in the Health Dept!

Fire Doug Baer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Fire Doug Baer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Maxwell, always the self-serving, fair-weather-friend, calls Baer and assures him:

"DON'T WORRY DOUG...I GOT YOUR BACK...hangs up the phone...IN MY SIGHTS!!!"

Anonymous said...

The results of Jeff Hughes' latest phone survey:

John Maxwell, according to 100% of those polled, should not have to follow the same rules as everyone else!

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Jeff!

You may now have bi-monthly weekend vistitation rights to your estranged "man-hood!"

Anonymous said...

Ouch!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Poor jeff.

Anonymous said...

Throw all the bums out!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"Maxwell is refusing to hook up to St. Leon's sewers!"

Way to go, John!!!

Stick it to those St. Leon corrupt sewer crooks!!!

Anonymous said...

Looks like Maxwell is doing an "in your face" to Chuck Andres.

Chuck must be steaming.

Because, as you know, septic systems simply do not work!

Anonymous said...

Anyone read the Tues paper- editorial page?
Bob Sauerbrey wrote a long column about the master plan- and he didn't mince words on Jeff and Rick and their tabling.

Anonymous said...

Off to get a paper!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Our crooked development controlled republican party and its sorry and pathetic bought and paid for leadership...if they cannot control the entire political process...they simply subvert and undermine the process in total!

Anonymous said...

This mess has traveled well past just a battle of “differing political philosophies” to down right “thuggery” and sabotaging the public process by means Al Capone would be most proud!

Ewbank , Morris and their dim-witted stepchildren in office, need to go!

Anonymous said...

From Sauerbrey’s letter to the editor:


I spoke with the county administrator after the election, pointing out that the people of this county showed their true convictions about this plan and the direction of the county in this vote.

His reply was, and this is a quote: "WADDYA MEAN, A DIFFERENCE? ALL THREE COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE STILL OF THE SAME PARTY.” Some people just don’t get it!



Waddya mean Mr. Sauerbrey?

Messmore gets it!

Being Development’s chief shill and mouthpiece, his idea of “diversity” would have been Republican Thompson losing out to Development Democrat Linkmeyer, whom our crooked Development Republican Leadership backed over the wishes of their own rank and file voters!

Messmore is our non-elected “Dismal Dunce for Development!”

Anonymous said...

Q: How do you keep Messmore in his office and not out making trouble for the honest folks of this county?

A: Line his office walls with mirrors!

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Erika Schmidt Russell has also had enough of Jeff Hughes and Rick Fox's lies relative to the "openness" of the planning process!

Come on Jeff and Rick!

Be men!

Quit making excuses!

At least Vera was “out front” with her corrupt dishonesty relative to the “public” process and that only her Development Masters should have any say whatsoever in this County’s Government!

And it all worked out for her!

Look at her now!

She has a “cushy” secretary’s job with the DCRSD, making tens if not hundreds of dollars a month…at least enough to pay for her Caddys!!!

Anonymous said...

Jeff to Rick:

"I THINK WE MAY NEED TO FORM TWO MORE DCRSDs BEFORE NEXT YEAR'S ELECTION!!!"

Anonymous said...

Erika utilized together, in her editorial, the invectives “darn” and “bull” in criticizing the Development Driven Fox and Hughes usurpation of the public process!

It is going to be a rough ride for our two trifling and shady commissioners this coming year, leading up to their re-election failures!

Anonymous said...

Relative to the above post, nobody put me up to writing this either.

So...bite me...all of you Development Clowns...who think you "OWN" the public process!

Thread nannies not withstanding!

Anonymous said...

Has Ewbank sent out a "cease and desist" letter to Joe Awad concerning his editorial staff?

In Ewbank's mind (no jokes please)...they are not playing fair...they are well off HIS "script!"

Anonymous said...

It is so easy for you all on this blog to anonymously make fun of Rick and Jeff!!!

Why don’t you all find some “men” to pick on???

Anonymous said...

Why don’t you all find some “men” to pick on???


What ever your say Mr. Ewbank.

Would I it be too much to ask of you, if you could please point out to us all, some blokes in office you have not fully emasculated, as of yet?

Anonymous said...

Pretty soon, all of Ewbank's "hire-on" elected officials will be required to wear uniforms with their first names sewn above their left chest pockets!

Anonymous said...

Does Gary Morris follow, in lock-step, behind Mr. Ewbank, clipboard smartly in hand, taking notes on all things Mr. Ewbank finds important enough to comment on?

Anonymous said...

"Pretty soon, all of Ewbank's "hire-on" elected officials will be required to wear uniforms with their first names sewn above their left chest pockets!"

Poor Vera...always the good little drone...trying to make development browny points...had her name tatooed on her chest...then that awful Ralph Thompson had to step in and ruin it all!

Anonymous said...

What will the Lehners, Ewbanks and Kramers do in this County, when the newly elected officials of this same County, no longer get “weak-kneed” in their presence?

Can they, submit themselves, to being just “hired help?”

Anonymous said...

Time to take action.Withdraw my money from UCB.Boycott every business that Maxwell has built.

Anonymous said...

What will Gary and Liz do, when their next year's "Support These Republicans Flyer" have more Democrats than Republicans listed on it?

Anonymous said...

Time to take action. Withdraw my money from UCB. Boycott every business that Maxwell has built.

Explanation please?

Or has this something to do with whatever the current "Maxwell" communicable disease is spreading amongst Dearborn County Businesses this week?

The Maxwell name does seem to have become a plague amongst those honest business owners he as visited!

Anonymous said...

look at UCB's BOD and legal council.

http://www.bankucb.com/home/about.about_bod

Anonymous said...

Robert J. Ewbank, Legal Counsel?

Sometimes the third, fourth or fifth string, Ethical Counsel, are just not available!

But, this would answer why Ewbank has pulled out all the stops to keep control of his posse of subserviant politicians!

Anonymous said...

Should not our County Attorney divest himself of such positions that might be rife with conflicting interests?

It is as if he is parlaying off his position as County Attorney!

Attorneys do follow and are beholden to some form of professional ethics, do they not?

Or is it different here in Dearborn County?

Anonymous said...

What will Gary and Liz do, when their next year's "Support These Republicans Flyer" have more Democrats than Republicans listed on it?

That is a very good question!

Hey Liz, what would you do?

Anonymous said...

Or is it different here in Dearborn County?

Dearborn County has its own backwater alien version of ethics.

It is changing, but the recipients of such base ethics are fighting hard those changes.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see or hear the "reporting" of Eagle Radio or see this posted on their website?

Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray, 3 cheers for common sense in County government!!!

“In terms of local government structure, Indiana skipped the 20th century. We are dealing with a system that is a century-and-a-half-old and it is in need of modernization. We have too many of everything and they all cost money,” said Gov. Mitch Daniels.



Panel Recommends Two Dozen Local Government Changes
(Indianapolis, IN) - County Commissioners should be a thing of the past in Indiana according to recommendations from a bipartisan study.

The unanimous report from the seven-member group, Indiana Commission on Local Government Reform, is calling for the replacement of county commissioners, of which there are currently three in each county, with one elected executive.

There were more than two dozen other proposed local government reforms raised by the group.

The proposed reform also advises that most positions currently elected should be appointed by the executive in that county. The only remaining elected position under the proposal would be prosecutor.

The number of local governments in Indiana would be cut by more than a third and there would be half as many elected officials, if the entire plan is adopted.

Former Governor Joe Kernan was picked to co-lead the study with Indiana Chief Justice Randall Shepard. He says a single executive government makes sense.

“You wouldn’t run General Motors with three CEOs. You wouldn’t run your local Dairy Queen with three CEOs. One person having the responsibility makes sense from an administrative standpoint,” said Kernan.

Shepard says current local governments are too complex.

“Citizens and taxpayers have a very difficult time maneuvering their way through it and figuring out who to thank or who to hold accountable.”

Governor Mitch Daniels, who picked Shepard and Kernan to spearhead the effort, says a change in local government structure is overdue.

“In terms of local government structure, Indiana skipped the 20th century. We are dealing with a system that is a century-and-a-half-old and it is in need of modernization. We have too many of everything and they all cost money,” said Daniels.

Daniels opted not to endorse specific changes.

Anonymous said...

Saw it, was not sure what to make out of it.

"One Executive?"

Who would appoint this "One Executive?"

"Citizens and taxpayers have a very difficult time maneuvering their way through it and figuring out who to thank or who to hold accountable.”

So, lets fix it so the Citizens and Taxpayers have "No One" to hold politically and voter accountable?

This sounds more like a plan thought up by politicians, to remove all responsibility and accountability of the self-same politicians!

Anonymous said...

So, lets fix it so the Citizens and Taxpayers have "No One" to hold politically and voter accountable?


You cannot remove politics from what is, at its very heart, politics!

You can redefine all the standing definitions of politics as they exist today, but we all still will understand what those new definitions truly, in our daily lives, define!

Anonymous said...

Appoint the executive? Read it again...elected by the people. Similar to mayor of the city, Governor of the state, President of the USA.....not two retards and an executive as it is now.

Anyone that says they need to do a phone poll before casting a vote on any subject needs to have their brain cells counted.

Anonymous said...

Ok! I stand corrected!

Let the votes begin!

Anonymous said...

What will Gary and Liz do, when their next year's "Support These Republicans Flyer" have more Democrats than Republicans listed on it?.

Wonderful! Wonderful question! Does Liz have a J degree? If so, while attending J school, did she ever envision that she would someday be nothing but a mere scribe in the employ of such a corrupt political machine, bent on the pure corruption of the political process, as that of the Dearborn County Republican Party Leadership?

Anonymous said...

"Anyone that says they need to do a phone poll before casting a vote on any subject needs to have their brain cells counted.

Thankfully, the accountants tasked with such brain cell counting, using only their fingers, would only have to be one-handed, four-fingered accountants!

They must come cheap!

Anonymous said...

Jeff only feels the need to do a phone poll on matters not favorable to his dcedi bosses!

I bet when he was a younger man, he never thought he would be some college boy's Bo Bo!

Sad!

Anonymous said...

Check out this section of ucb website to see gary morris affiliation.

http://www.bankucb.com/home/investments;jsessionid=46E0D86A47E9E94AD0DBFBB7A6C5759F.wc1f

Anonymous said...

Maybe Gary can talk a number of our DCEDI folks into some of that "fine" subprime mortgage investment opportunities!

Anonymous said...

What will Gary and Liz do, when their next year's "Support These Republicans Flyer" have more Democrats than Republicans listed on it?

Both on point and very funny!

I wonder if Gary and Liz had much input in the Hrezo campaign for mayor?

The political "finger prints" have some similarities.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what the return on investment is on Forced Hook-Up Sewer Futures?

There does appear to be some great interest in local Development circles...almost as if Forced Hook-Up Sewer Futures is the only place for any measurable profit for the next 10 years or so for our failing Realty and Development Industry.

These failing industries are looking at the financial "liquidity" of those coercible home and property owner “assets” and how they can best “tap” those “assets” for these, at least for now, failing industries best use.

Anonymous said...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316271,00.html

About 468,000 homes and business still had no power Wednesday in Oklahoma, suffering its worst power outage on record. That was down from a peak of some 618,000 customers Tuesday, but utility officials said it could be a week to 10 days before power is fully restored."

Think of the "health" crisis that would follow, if many of those homes were on DCRSD electricity required pressurized sewers and grinder pumps?

Liz and Maynard, would you want to be held responsible, politically and morally, for leaving our citizens open to such a "health" crisis?

Is the "growth" of a few realtors/developers/bankers/shysters worth doing this to your fellow citizens?

Anonymous said...

Liz and Maynard seem to be just two more elitists willing to pick the pockets of the "little people" to maintain their elite status.

The ethical and moral contortions that need to be practiced to permit "forced" sewer ups to subsidize their and their fellow travelers' elitist needs leaves no doubt where they stand.

Two more ethically and morally twisted elitist pretzels!

Anonymous said...

Maybe Gary can rig next year's elections to run a few more development democrats against the republicans to further their needed twists?

Gary's republican leadership position should permit him to carry on with all their elitist schemes.

So much time for scheming...so little ethical integrity!

Anonymous said...

Unlike Pickens who could feign he did not support those Republicans who spat in the face of the Republican Primary Voters last year, Morris, if he throws any support and/or dollars to Fox and Hughes, will prove that he cares not about the Republican vote...

...just the Development vote!

And then the Dearborn County Republican Party Leadership will be forever tainted by his and Ewbank's manipulation and corruption of its Leadership!

Anonymous said...

Merry Christmas to all, that are just pissed off at everthing.

Anonymous said...

Not everything- just sewers and the politicals who are using then for tehir own gain.

Anonymous said...

"Merry Christmas to all, that are just pissed off at everYthing."

Happy Holidays to you and your powers struggle associates. The New Year will bring big changes to all! Stay tuned!

Anonymous said...

APB

VRUC's lagoon is overflowing into Double Lick Creek.
Just wanted the Health Dept. head Doug Baer to know about the continued polution..

Anonymous said...

Merry Christmas to all, that are just pissed off at everthing.

As in, as pissed off as, our DCRSD pimps and punks were when the County Council would not give them aid and comfort to steal from the rest of us?

Bullies get so flustered when they cannot bully!

Anonymous said...

Maxwell and his pawns at the dcrsd would just love to send their forced hookup letters disguised as "Christmas Cards!"

Stealing from others to subsidize his development plans, certainly seems like Christmas to him!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Or as "pissed off" as Ewbank and HIS dumb and dumber commissioners are at the "public" for participating in the "public" planning process of the "public" Comp. plan?

So "pissed off" that they are doing their dishonest best to subvert the entire "public" process!

That "pissed off?"

Anonymous said...

Let Maxwell, Fehrman and their ilk self-fund THEIR sewers for THEIR subdivisions without extorting money from our neighbors...

...and watch all the smiles break out across this County!

Anonymous said...

Maxwell has already set his sights on stealing our money to shore up his mortgage crisis inspired floundering business, he is not going to let it go without a fight!

In Maxwell's mind, he is already "entitled" to our money!

And Ewbank and Morris will do their best to rig next year's election to give him a few more Bennning level dolts to fall all over themselves giving Maxwell everything he wants, at the expense of the rest of us!

Anonymous said...

Why follow the common sense of smart growth, working out from existing infrastructure when all Maxwell needs to do is buy a farm, anywhere, gather up all the addresses around this farm and give those addresses to Doug Baer to send out condemnation letters, forcing them onto sewers that don't yet exist, but will be paid by them in order for Maxwell to get his new "farm" sewered!

With windfall profits to be had by Maxwell!

Anonymous said...

The DCRSD President and his puppet master have a temper tantrum when council would not permit them to force others to pay for the puppet master's sewers...and they call us "Sour Pusses?"

How funny is that?

Anonymous said...

and give those addresses to Doug Baer to send out condemnation letters

That is exactly what Maxwell and Fehrman have in mind!

And since they are on the board, they can direct sewers to any place they can by rural property on the cheap and later have it rezoned!

What a racket!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Jeff Hughes has yet conducted any phone surveys of the public as to their knowledge of the DCRSD and its goals?

Someone ask Jeff that question during the "public comment" segment of the next commissioners' meeting!

Anonymous said...

If someone would ask such a question of Hughes, Ewbank would throw Hughes aside and slam the gavel down himself!

Hey Bob!

What are you going to do when the citizens of this county take it back from YOU?

Will you sue for joint custody?

Anonymous said...

For a twist this year, Ewbank will browbeat Democrats to vote for his Development Chosen Republican this year!

That fits his definition of political "diversity!"

Anonymous said...

News Flash!

Frank Linkmeyer leaves the Democratic Party, joins the Republicans!!!

When ask what inspired his change of heart and parties, Linkmeyer replied:

THE "ANTI-NOTHINGS" AND "DO-EVERYTHINGS" UH...UH...UH...WHAT THE HELL...IT IS ALL IN BOB EWBANK'S MEMO! BOB? DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT MEMO YOU SENT ME?

Anonymous said...

Did anyone hear Jeff on the radio this morning? It completely confirmed this guy really is incompetent and uneducated.

Anonymous said...

"Did anyone hear Jeff on the radio this morning? It completely confirmed this guy really is incompetent and uneducated."

He didn't keep asking to meet Paul Harvey again, did he?

Anonymous said...

It completely confirmed this guy really is incompetent and uneducated.

As Bob Ewbank takes his bows to the applauds of his fellow DCEDI members:

"THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I COULD NOT HAVE CULTIVATED THAT DUMBASS WITHOUT ALL OF YOUR HELP! WE ALL ARE GOING TO MISS HIM AFTER NEXT YEAR'S ELECTION!!!"

Anonymous said...

Next week:

Ewbank thanks Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes for all they have done for HIM and asks them to sign their pre-written endorsements of their pre-chosen Democratic General Election replacements...No hurry...but Liz needs to set the type soon!

Anonymous said...

When folks like Bob, Gary, Liz, John, Jim, Mike and the occasionally invited in time for desert, Brett, sit down for a pleasant dinner together at a nice restaurant...are they able to look each other in the eye?

Are they able rationalize away what they have been trying to do to the “average” citizen of this County as they attempt to line their pockets and/or girder their respective power bases?

Anonymous said...

Merry Christmas to all, that are just pissed off at everthing.

You remind me of the car-jacker who gets all "pissy" with those complaining about YOU car-jacking their cars!!!

Anonymous said...

That is what Nugent said...that he supported Republican Thompson in the general election...yep...that is what he said.
THis is hilarious. The honorable Senator John Nugent told me that he voted for FRANK Thompson. Frank Thompson is Jean Leising's, he's in Ripley County and he runs for no office. Maybe John doesn't know for whom he voted.

But Johnnnnnnny told me also that with that warchest of 275K he had
no money for the Ralph Thompson campaign.

Where in the hell do we get these guys??

Anonymous said...

...had her name tatooed on her chest...

how do you know, you saw Vera's chest????

Anonymous said...

Johnny is such a cutie...

...Ewbank is such a cutie...

...Maxwell is such a cutie...

...will one of the these cute bastards find a way of taking the money earmarked for fixing High Ridge...

...and fix High Ridge...

...in a cute fashion!

And, if the money earmarked by the county is not enough to fix High Ridge and sewer DCRSD Board Member, Brett Fehrman's Gabbard Estates...

...then the county needs to put it to the voters if they want to not only fix the Developer disaster that is High Ridge Estates, but to also pre-fix the soon to be Developer disaster which is Gabbard Estates!

But let us not, piecemeal, charge, virtually powerless individual taxpayers, to pay for both High Ridge and DCRSD Board Member, Brett Fehrman’s Gabbard Estates and then move on piecemeal once again, to charge handful by handful virtually powerless individual taxpayers, to pay for Board Member, John Maxwell’s development plans!

Sadly, the time has already passed, to protect the handful of taxpayers who were already exploited to pay for DCRSD Board Member, Rodney Dennerline’s sewers for his Mobile Home Park!

Do not permit the Board Members of DCRSD to further abuse our fellow taxpayers, one at a time, to bolster the fortunes of the individual Board Members of the DCRSD!

Anonymous said...

...had her name tatooed on her chest...

how do you know, you saw Vera's chest????


May be Jeff Hughes should do a phone survey of bar patrons in Dillsboro to ferret out the truth.

Anonymous said...

A sweet, semi-low cut blouse would reveal the truth.

I guess we can all wait for the next pleasant, warm spring day to find out.

But I have much better things to do this coming spring and Vera is nowhere on my list of worthwhile endeavors.

Anonymous said...

But Johnnnnnnny told me also that with that warchest of 275K he had
no money for the Ralph Thompson campaign.


But boy!

Was he pissed off at whomever put his name on that flyer, tacitly endorcing that Democrat, Linkmeyer!

I'm sure he is still furious at those who stooped so low to place his "good" name on that flyer and those turn-coat Republicans who publicly supported the Democrat over the Republican in last year's commissioners' race!

Liz, Gary, you are intelligent enough to know we are making fun of you both, are you not?

No act can be considered "secret" in this "new" digital age!

Anonymous said...

Republican Rick Fox came out for Democrat Linkmeyer against Republican Ralph Thompson.

Republican Jeff Hughes came out for Democrat Linkmeyer against Republican Ralph Thompson..

Only Republican Johnny Nugent was "courageous" enough to go against the tide of his traitorous colleagues and support Republican Ralph Thompson.

Johnny Nugent is therefore on record against the Development Republicans and Democrats’ efforts to coerce and extort the resources of the “little guy” in this County to subsidize the development of the criminal Development Class of this very same County!

Thank you, Senator Nugent!!!

Anonymous said...

Gary and Liz, please, exhort Sen. Nugent to rebut these scurrilous and slanderous charges that he somehow, in anyway, supports the “little guy” in this County!

Anonymous said...

Gary and Liz, please, also encourage Robert Ewbank to publicly thank Senator Nugent for his steadfast support of this County’s "little guy's" battle to protect his family's assets against the never-ending assault of the Development Interests of this once, honorable and righteous County!

Thank you, so much, Gary and Liz, for the Christian love and protection you have shown for your less unfortunate and non-politically connected brethren of this County!

Never has anyone stood so tall as when they have stooped so low…as Gary and Liz!

Anonymous said...

also encourage Robert Ewbank to publicly thank Senator Nugent


Ewbank must detest humoring the likes of a Nugent...a SMALL time...SMALL engine mechanic...or any mechanic...that he may so represent!

Briggs and Stratton…Kohler…Tecumseh…big “fleeping” deal!

Ewbank could replace Nugent tomorrow…

…with the first carpenter…gin-mill-worker…or part-time sorry-ass real estate agent that rubs up against his pants leg!

Anonymous said...

Who else was present, at the last back room, back office meeting of the DCEDI, when Bob was forcefully and vituperously ridiculing Johnny’s Cub Cadets and caustically diminishing the wonderful attributes of the zero radius turn of his Dixon Lawn Mowers?

I have it upon good information, that Bob, cuts his lawn with the cheapest of Murray Riding mowers!

Whereas, on any given weekend, in the summer months, either Jeff Hughes or Rick Fox can be seen operating such Murray on the Ewbank estate!

Anonymous said...

Ewbank estate?

Please!

May Bob's lowly hired help be permitted to void their bladders behind the roses!

Surely, such a percolation course, through the soil, will filter most of the impurities before their flow into Double Lick Creek!

It has been documented, but not published by Doug Baer, that the indoor plumbing of the Ewbank HVL estate, as well as all the other estates located in HVL, that dump all their privileged waste through the VRUC sewers, is a Double Lick Creek killer and E-coli generator!

Anonymous said...

It is unbelieveable that there can be 325 comments under this title about sewers. I believe we need to get some other important issues out there. When there was the posting on the taxes, some of us tried to talk about the schools, but we were stepped over by those talking about the sewers. I know that is is a hot subject but can you please allow for some other important discussions.

And really do you need to go that far......."had her name tatooed on her chest...

how do you know, you saw Vera's chest????"

No wonder you don't want your names under your comments.

Anonymous said...

How about this?

Let us fix the easiest of fixes...the DCRSD trying to tap all our savings to subsidize the sewers of a few our "LOCALLY" existiing crooks...

...and then we can deal with the more "REGIONAL" problems of schools and "STATE" taxes!

Let us focus upon what we can "FIX," now, in our "COMMUNITY!"

Unless and of course, you would rather just fog all the "LOCAL" issues, since you stand to gain by such "LOCAL" thieving issues going unnoticed?

Anonymous said...

Maxwell and Fehrman are trying to force me onto their sewers to subsidize their subdivisions...but wait...is not that "Puff the Magic Dragon" over behind the barn, trying to tax our children’s children into supporting “Taj Mahal” style schools of extravagance?

Maybe it’ s Puff, maybe its not!

Put I first must battle “Piff the Sewer Serpent,” doing his best to slurp up my savings with his “Piffy” gelatinous wonder tongue, to subsidize “Piffy Estates’ sewers!!!

Anonymous said...

Some very odd and queer stranger is trying to enter into my young daughter's window...

...but, wait a minute...

...it would not be fair to this very odd and queer stranger trying to enter into my young daughters window...

...if I did not, first, focus my attention on my ever-increasing property taxes!

Anonymous said...

Let me guess, if the focus of these 325 comments was base upon anything other than our local sewer scam...you would find other matters to busy yourself with?

Like, finding ways to profit upon our local sewer scam?

Anonymous said...

well one thing about the sewer comments- they seem to indicate that the average citizen still retains some remnants of what provoked the Revolutionary War.
Taxation without representation has become forced hookups without representation.

Anonymous said...

I like you jb...always...a few words...but... they speak so much truth!

Anonymous said...

!but we were stepped over

Now you know how those feel who worked so hard participating in the Comp. Plan planning process!

Participation does not count, at least today, unless you follow the Development script!

Tomorrow, thanks to such heavy and ham-fisted tactics...will be a new day for the non-Ewbank-bridled citizenry!

Thanks Bob!

You finally zipped your little Vienna Sausage in your fly, really, really, really good this time!

I have to ask, Bob, when did you get the notion that you owned this County?

Please educate us all!

Because, at least speaking for myself, I cannot even envisage ever being that full of myself, thinking I could rule an entire County through influence, force of will and sordid manipulation!

Clothe shopping must be a bit of a chore for someone, like yourself, so much larger than life and as self-important as yourself?

“BIG and TALL” does not even begin to meet your vulgar and “PUFFED OUT” needs!

Can you even get your head through the average pull-over sweater?

Hats must offer a real pain for you, with very few haberdasheries able to provide bonnets to fit such a swelled noggin such as yours!

In closing, Bob, do you aspire, some day, that your children, as adults, may someday be under the thumb of someone like yourself?

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm quite sure, Bob does not "aspire" to having his children end up like Vera, Rick and Jeff.

Anonymous said...

"...please allow for some other important discussions."

Tommorrow, I may get a letter in mail demanding I contribute thousands of dollars, not counting the tens of thousands in excavation costs, grinder pumps and other expenses, to subsidize a few would-be felons' subdivisions...and you have more important discussions to include me in on?

Please!

Let us first shut down the dcrsd...and then we will talk!

Anonymous said...

Let us first remove Hughes, Fox, Morris and Barrott from office, then we will have all the time in the world to tackle more abstract problems facing us.

Anonymous said...

"Liz, Gary, you are intelligent enough to know we are making fun of you both, are you not?"

Get in line!

Hell, we should sell tickets!

Is there anyone in this County who don't know what this "sweet" couple are up to?

If only this pair were just "making fun" as to their plans for our dollars!

Anonymous said...

Maybe next week, Liz can offer an entire "Puff Piece" and "Soft Ball" article on the wonderful works of Rick Fox and Jeff Hughes and their views concerning killer septic tanks and evil Comprehensive Plans!

Anonymous said...

Ya know, Liz, there is no need to wander over to the "Dark Side" of this County in order to fit in and finally feel accepted.

Pick your friends based upon raw "heart" not raw "power."

Anonymous said...

Liz would love a country picnic with our family...it is just fun...without all the machinations...of figuring out ways...of forcing our neighbors...into contributing their savings...to make our picnic...more enjoyable!

Liz...you have an open invitation to our family's picnic!

Anonymous said...

VRUC's lagoon is overflowing into Double Lick Creek.
Just wanted the Health Dept. head Doug Baer to know about the continued polution..


Doug Baer:

"THAT REMINDS ME, I NEED TO GIVE MAXWELL A CALL...I WONDER IF I CAN SEND OUT ANY FORCED HOOKUP LETTERS YET? ALSO, NOTE TO SELF...GRACE BETTER KEEP HIS TRAP SHUT ABOUT VRUC'S DUMPING OF SEWAGE INTO DOUBLE LICK CREEK!"

Anonymous said...

The only "SEWER" crisis Baer is concerned about, is the "SEWER" crisis of John Maxwell needing "SEWERS" for his development but cannot afford them with out forcing others, via the DCRSD, to pay for then!

Anonymous said...

I bet Doug Baer was L. Parvin Price's "darling boy," with Doug not pestering the VRUC Board about trifling matters such as raw sewage overflows into Double Lick, while Development Interests took years and a million dollars of HVL resdents' money to try to wrestle control of the VRUC!

Now Doug is doing the same for the DCRSD as they Wrestle for control of this County's sewers, while High Ridge continues to dump tons of raw sewage into Hogan's Creek!

Doug will keep his silence until Brett Fehrman extorts his dollars for his subdivision's sewers!

Then, Doug will demand great speed to fix this County's septic system crisis, and immediately send out letters forcing the rest of us to pay for Brett's sewers!

P.S. Isn't Rodney Dennerline on the Health Board also?

Maybe that is how he got his sewers for his trailer park, before High Ridge?

Anonymous said...

Rodney's needs were put first on the dcrsd agenda. Next is Brett's needs. Then John will get his.

Sewage is not the only thing that smells in dearborn county.

We need a bottom to top disinfecting of our entire county government.

Anonymous said...

Come on fellers!!!

We need to stop talking about sewer crime in this County and discuss other matters!!!

All this sewer crime talk is making our sewer criminals nervous as well as their sewer criminal enablers!!!

Anonymous said...

Have our two little brave Commissioners spoken up as to what the DCRSD has planned for this County, or should I say, what the DCRSD has planned for its Board Members' bottom lines?

Anonymous said...

"All this sewer crime talk is making our sewer criminals nervous as well as their sewer criminal enablers!!!"

Et tu, Brute?

Anonymous said...

The planned ultimate betrayal of the citizens of this county is readying itself!

May it all happen before next year's election!

May that be the last nail in the coffin of Ewbank's follies!

"Liberty, Freedom! Tyranny is dead!"

Anonymous said...

"Have our two little brave Commissioners spoken up as to what the DCRSD has planned for this County, or should I say, what the DCRSD has planned for its Board Members' bottom lines?"
To run a phone survey, the two commissioners would be expected to be knowlegable on the subject and answer a few questions."

That scenario would be impossible to comprehend unless the two commissioners hired a polling group to cover their inadequacies.

Anonymous said...

"...to cover their inadequacies."

That river is wide and deep!

Anonymous said...

Jeff is not surveying, he is "Push-Polling" for his Masters!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"That river is wide and deep!"

Their presnt agenda is "a long walk on a short pier".

Anonymous said...

Ewbank is prompting, by his usual sly inducement, for Hughes and Fox to commit political suicide in an impossible and unattainable attempt to shore up Ewbank's power and influence in this contemporary political environment where the public is finally demanding that THEIR public officials work in the public’s best interests and not just in the interests of a handful of politically connected, self-appointed, power brokers, answerable to no one!

Anonymous said...

"Ewbank is prompting, by his usual sly inducement, for Hughes and Fox to commit political suicide in an impossible and unattainable attempt to shore up Ewbank's power and influence in this contemporary political environment where the public is finally demanding that THEIR public officials work in the public’s best interests and not just in the interests of a handful of politically connected, self-appointed, power brokers, answerable to no one!"

Blogs "turn on the lights".
It IS the same old game just new faces.
It's time for a change!
It's time to take the ball and run!

Anonymous said...

It's time to take the ball and run!

And remember, republican primary voters...

...our crooked republican party leadership will keep moving the goal posts back if you do not vote for their development backed candidate!

So far back, we will find ourselves in a democrat Linkmeyer endzone once again!

Will Ewbank and Morris play fair next commissioners' election?

Or will their greed and need to feed their power fantasies take over once again?

Anonymous said...

I wonder what public and party sanctions Ewbank and Morris have in store for Fox and Hughes for going against the Republican Primary Voters last year?

At least, Fox and Hughes will have to run as Democrats or Independants, right?

Anonymous said...

What a slime trail our Development Slugs leave!!!

Anonymous said...

Is anyone following the "slime trail" of that porno development slugs sent out in the Greendale Mayor's race?

Anonymous said...

"Is anyone following the "slime trail" of that porno development slugs sent out in the Greendale Mayor's race?"

The word IS the county prosecutor is pursuing the case but no arrests yet.

Anonymous said...

This would be an ideal time for our Prosecutor to put some distance between he and our shady Development owned Republican Leadership!

Anonymous said...

It will be, I think, some development interests, who want the rest of us to be forced to pay for their sewers!

In other words, common thugs!

Anonymous said...

"It will be, I think, some development interests, who want the rest of us to be forced to pay for their sewers!"

Hedrick's political challenger Herzo was backed almost entirely by development interests. Whether the porno sender gets prosecuted will depend on whether they are expendable to the development interest. If they are big contributors they will be able to hide forever. If not they will be prosecuted. LOL.....It's a legal issue not a moral issue.

Anonymous said...

Development Interests hated Hedrick for not offering up his constituents as sacrificial cash cows to pay for these Development Interestss sewers!

Hedrick's display of ethihics just threw these crooks for a loop!

Hedrick is no Fox or Hughes!

Hedrick is a man!

Anonymous said...

Rick and Jeff will never be "MEN" as long as they are mere errand "BOYS" for Bob Ewbank!

Anonymous said...

Hrezo.

The same Hrezo up front at the DCRSD slop bucket waiting for a handout after the Board finds someway to steal from the rest of us for the benefit of its Board Members' Development plans.

Wasn't Hrezo also somehow connected with that mess of a sewer "utility," the VRUC?

As the VRUC continues to dump tons of raw sewage into our waterways!

It stinks...it stank...and it stunk!

Ewbank and Kramer, please come to the Hrezos of this county's rescue!

Honest folks are holding the Hrezos back!

Anonymous said...

will depend on whether they are expendable to the development interest.

Vera learned just how expendable she was...the lesson will continue on for Rick and Jeff.

May they be taking good notes.

Anonymous said...

Hughes and Fox, Morris and Barrott, seem to be just A-ok with growth in this County, where said growth consists of nothing other than the more powerful bullying the less powerful for unfettered access to the less powerful's savings!

Anonymous said...

Have a very Merry Christmas, all our Development No-Questions-Asked-Development-Enablers!

May some Good Spirit reach and touch your souls this coming Holiday!

Anonymous said...

How deep will Morris permit the Dearborn County Republican Leadership to sink...to try to quench, what has proven unquenchable, the thirst of our Development local Chieftains, so inebriated with their own parochial and insular power?

Anonymous said...

Hughes and Fox, Morris and Barrott, seem to be just A-ok with growth in this County, where said growth consists of nothing other than the more powerful bullying the less powerful for unfettered access to the less powerful's savings!

"GROWTH," by means of the Dearborn County Style Corrupt Development Recipe, ain't it a wonderful and glorious thing to behold?

Anonymous said...

High ridge and hvl are still dumping sewage into our waterways. But we need to spend still more money on sewers elsewhere in this county? Do these crooks even seem embarrassed by what they are trying to do?

Anonymous said...

”Do these crooks even seem embarrassed by what they are trying to do?”


Embarrassed?

Please!

These creeps will be nominating each other for “Citizen of the Year” awards!

They are well beyond shame!

Anonymous said...

so inebriated with their own parochial and insular power?

It has been said, that Rodney Dennerline's only true regret, was that he did not own more trailer parks to sewer on the taxpayers' dime!

Anonymous said...

Eventually, if we are able to get enough of our "You scratch my back and I will scratch your back" bloodsuckers, taking up space in our County's offices and on our County's boards, out of the path of our more honest and honorable citizens of this County...

...the corruption will just die off on its own!

Anonymous said...

The County forms the DCRSD to fix the sewer crisis of High Ridge Estates.

And then, Rodney gets his sewers.

And then, Brett wants his Gabbard Estates sewered.

And then, Maxwell wants to take over all the "functioning" sewer districts in the County, to pay for his development.

And, well, whatever happened to the sewer crisis of High Ridge Estates?

Anonymous said...

And, well, whatever happened to the sewer crisis of High Ridge Estates?

I think Brett cut off any and all forms of outside communication of High Ridge Estates.

He is a hard-core sewer hostage taker!

Anonymous said...

Fehrman: Can we have availability fee?

Oh, for Christ's sake, Brett!

Availability fee???

Does that make you feel better to label your forced theft as an "availability fee???"

Quit trying to sugar coat what you and Maxwell have planned!

If you carry through with your plan...you WILL be a first class, thieving bastard!

It is as simple as that!

Anonymous said...

Please do not peel away the thin veneer Brett screens himself with that separates him from other garden variety crooks!

Anonymous said...

Can we have availability fees?

Brett so needs availability fees!

He has to find some way to force the rest of us to pay for his subdivision's sewers!

Geesh!

Nothing worse than a whiny cowardly crook!

Anonymous said...

New Years wish for 2008

Dissolve the dcrsd ASAP!

Happy New Year.

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